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In reply to the discussion: It's past time to end the "pony envy" [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)53. If you don't understand it, I urge you to read it again.
We didn't pay seventy seven grand in taxpayer money for Jackie and Caroline to ride their horses. That's the bottom line.
We did pay that for Annie's horse. Our tax dollars paid for her little hobby--and it's a "business" like I'm an astronaut.
She WAS comparing the Kennedys to the RMoneys--don't say anything bad about Annie's horse, look, look at Jackie! Look at Caroline! Be quiet! Don't say anything! Criticizing them is .... BAD.
Not everyone has to like what others like, and if they want to make fun of it, so what? I like stupid shit that other people don't like, but I'm not so damned insecure that if someone makes fun of, say, my love for vintage television programming, or my enjoyment of classical Persian food, that I'd need to retreat to a far corner and cry about it. Don't like it? Fine--all the more for me.
I'm tired of being lectured to not hurt the feelings of Imperial assholes who possess no redeeming social values--fuck them AND that horse they rode in on.
The thread title "It's past time to end the pony envy" suggests first, that we are "envious" of Annie's horsies in every barn and caddies in every garage--I find her consumption conspicuous and if I had her dough I would give most of it away, so there's a Big Fail. And then we're scolded with examples, oh, look at the "Good Democrats" on horsies.
I didn't see Jackie or Caroline fielding horsies or riders at the Olympics so they could "write off" their expenses.
Bullshit is what I call--the premise of this thread is crap, and I'll keep crapping on Annie in her thousand dollar tee shirts and her dancing horse if I so desire.
You can ignore me if my differing opinion offends, I won't mind! To each his or her own, I say!
We did pay that for Annie's horse. Our tax dollars paid for her little hobby--and it's a "business" like I'm an astronaut.
She WAS comparing the Kennedys to the RMoneys--don't say anything bad about Annie's horse, look, look at Jackie! Look at Caroline! Be quiet! Don't say anything! Criticizing them is .... BAD.
Not everyone has to like what others like, and if they want to make fun of it, so what? I like stupid shit that other people don't like, but I'm not so damned insecure that if someone makes fun of, say, my love for vintage television programming, or my enjoyment of classical Persian food, that I'd need to retreat to a far corner and cry about it. Don't like it? Fine--all the more for me.
I'm tired of being lectured to not hurt the feelings of Imperial assholes who possess no redeeming social values--fuck them AND that horse they rode in on.
The thread title "It's past time to end the pony envy" suggests first, that we are "envious" of Annie's horsies in every barn and caddies in every garage--I find her consumption conspicuous and if I had her dough I would give most of it away, so there's a Big Fail. And then we're scolded with examples, oh, look at the "Good Democrats" on horsies.
I didn't see Jackie or Caroline fielding horsies or riders at the Olympics so they could "write off" their expenses.
Bullshit is what I call--the premise of this thread is crap, and I'll keep crapping on Annie in her thousand dollar tee shirts and her dancing horse if I so desire.
You can ignore me if my differing opinion offends, I won't mind! To each his or her own, I say!
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Just a tiny bit of bad luck and maybe Rafalca/Ebeling will fail spectacularly.
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#104
I enjoy the fun-poking, the "horse prom," the "horse they danced in on," etc.
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#130
Likewise, there is nothing too petty, inconsequential, idiotic, pointless or downright (edited)
A HERETIC I AM
Jul 2012
#45
They do run a legitimate business - training, boarding, breeding, sales.
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#10
She has to make a profit to be structured as a business or get hit by the IRS
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#81
I have an up and coming akc hunting dog, can i write off his food&training&expenses?
peacebird
Jul 2012
#25
+ a billion or so. Why don't the Romneys support therapeutic riding programs?
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#145
I know several people who do or did dressage, and a few who will be at this year's Olympic
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2012
#21
Yeah. I remember seeing lots of lectures about how elitist hockey was in '08
Posteritatis
Jul 2012
#109
I told my daughter that I would find the money somehow if she wanted to stick with it.
xmas74
Jul 2012
#158
you can love the animal *and* love the sport.They aren't mutually exclusive.
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#40
Every dressage movement is something a horse does in the wild, on their own
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#82
Bullshit. False premise. We didn't pay nearly eighty grand so Jackie/Caroline could trot around.
MADem
Jul 2012
#37
You didn't pay $77k. You paid $50. That's all that was allowed. Fifty bucks.
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#83
The absolute nerve of those one percenters to even try to get a dime out of the taxpayers is what
MADem
Jul 2012
#124
She has a legitimate business and if you don't like the tax code for that, take it up with the IRS
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#132
No--I will continue to assert that her "legitimate" business is a bullshit hobby.
MADem
Jul 2012
#137
I am not defending the Romneys, and am sorry you so misunderstand my post
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#89
I would see it as redeeming if I felt her involvement were not so selfish
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#154
Some democrats ride, some own/shoot guns, some smoke, it used to be a big tent
The Straight Story
Jul 2012
#52
It still is a big tent. It's way more tolerant of differences than it was fifty years ago.
MADem
Jul 2012
#59
Sorry. $77,000 in tax breaks for horse expense isn't a hobby, it's a scam. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2012
#68
If Romney's horse beat the competition at the olympic qualification matches
JustABozoOnThisBus
Jul 2012
#92
" Olympic competition is a sport of the 1%. Dressage in and of itself is not."
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#125
Back then, the rich paid more than their fair share of taxes--really!! The tax rate on the wealthy
MADem
Jul 2012
#138
I'm not defending elitist scum like the Romney's. I'm *condemning* them.
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#108
Why would you assume any of us were envious of their lifestyle of expensive prancing
TwilightGardener
Jul 2012
#111
Every horse or pony I've ever owned I rode bareback and had a place to go in mind when I got on so
lonestarnot
Jul 2012
#126
I own and operate the exact same dressage (and CT) business as the Rmoneys and Jan Ebeling
riderinthestorm
Jul 2012
#152
b.s. I've written that in all likelihood their so-called biz will end up declared a hobby
magical thyme
Jul 2012
#153
I stagger around a lot when I'm drunk. I call it Dressage, and I want a $70K writeoff.
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2012
#167