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92. the shows just as crappy the second time around

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Why do they make Jackie out to be a cartoon version of a liberal on Roseanne ? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 OP

Jackie's character has always been like that. B2G Mar 2018 #1

Except in the previous iteration of the series Roseanne was liberal too. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #6

I can't wait to see what her black daughter-in-law calls her EffieBlack Mar 2018 #8

For the first installment, yes. B2G Mar 2018 #13

She will insist on it showing her support for Trump...that is the entire point to normalize Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

Haven't watched but read that her part's been cast. Hortensis Mar 2018 #57

Darlene, Roseanne's daughter. B2G Mar 2018 #59

Good, thanks. She'd have to be, right? Hortensis Mar 2018 #60

Oh absolutely. B2G Mar 2018 #63

Did you watch the original series? B2G Mar 2018 #11

Why would I watch DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #15

Maybe so you can discuss it intelligently? B2G Mar 2018 #17

How do DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #19

I am able to separate the show from the actor. B2G Mar 2018 #23

That's okay DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #25

Unless youre a Nielson family, cwydro Mar 2018 #46

See post #56 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #58

:) I had no intention of watching Roseanne either, Hortensis Mar 2018 #64

The Cosbys existed to portray African Americans as successful an ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #67

Yes, it was. And similarly the Obamas lived their lives Hortensis Mar 2018 #75

Yeah, the Huxtables' materialism could be grating misanthrope Mar 2018 #110

The unintended consequence of that show misanthrope Mar 2018 #108

Good post RandomAccess Mar 2018 #102

Has there been a reboot of The Cosby Show in this mid-term year, to push a candidate? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #141

You're in the wrong decade jumptheshadow Mar 2018 #100

I think Nielsen samples are still the method for calculating ratings and determining ad rates AdamGG Apr 2018 #132

It's evolving jumptheshadow Apr 2018 #138

In this case the lead driver of the show is having a public mental breakdown, so its hard for bettyellen Mar 2018 #69

bettyellen, more than one poster on this thread has attacked me in defense of Roseanne Barr. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #70

People get weirdly passionate about their entertainment, dont they? bettyellen Mar 2018 #73

I have tried to limit my criticism to Roseanne and not the people here who like her. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #74

I saw that. No one can accuse these fans of keeping it classy I guess. bettyellen Mar 2018 #77

Roseanne has been making these tweets for a long time. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #78

Yeah, I think like a lot of his supporters she likes to get a reaction from liberals... bettyellen Mar 2018 #79

That is a lot of the appeal of Trump too. They like him because he upsets liberals. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #81

It is beyond me how anyone can like Roseanne. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #85

You will get no argument from me. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #86

Her original show and her 80's stand-up were good AdamGG Apr 2018 #133

I saw some videos of her working with Rodney Dangerfield. I thought they were good. I Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #136

Exactly, Bettyellen. There is no separation Cha Mar 2018 #124

Like too many in the MSM media (like the NYT) she is trolling us for clicks and Im not falling for bettyellen Mar 2018 #126

In that case the Deplorables will boycott the show for being liberal. lunatica Mar 2018 #71

The show suggested that Trump saved their house...how is that liberal? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #84

You do understand that the show is one loooong advertisement for Trump in a mid-term year? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #144

Disgusting. Kath2 Mar 2018 #27

I wouldn't even say that about Deplorables. It's just silly, DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #28

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #140

She called Huma Abedin a "filthy Nazi wh--e" and said Islam was a " rape pedo culture." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #142

OMG. She's worse than I thought. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #143

I don't watch the show but I saw a photo...... CatMor Mar 2018 #2

She was wearing it to hack off Roseanne. B2G Mar 2018 #5

That was probably the wrong way to do it.... CatMor Mar 2018 #16

Check out post 38. cwydro Mar 2018 #52

Lol. Consider the source. B2G Mar 2018 #55

No. I saw the trailer. Jackie was wild eyed, acting crazy, while Roseanne was seated Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #145

Yeah I didnt like that Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #3

"They" pander to 18 million #fakepresident cult followers Cary Mar 2018 #4

yep...and those who want to be 'fair'. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #116

Not surprised ornotna Mar 2018 #7

Except she's the sane one on the series. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #9

Actually her daughter Darla is the sanest. B2G Mar 2018 #20

You clearly have not seen the show. Tipperary Mar 2018 #47

I will be the bigger poster... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #56

Who? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #146

Roseanne is depicted as everywoman. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #148

No, she's not. She's portrayed as a "sensible, truth-oriented Trumper." There aren't many of those.. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #150

I'm a bit confused. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #151

Exactly. Propaganda. A fake advertisement for Trump. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #152

Roseanne and her vile tweets are annoying and disgusting. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #153

Make no mistake: It will have an effect. That's one of the purposes of it, so says Roseanne. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #154

"I don't know why I bother..." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #155

This isn't the only thing. Posters are positing wacko RW "alternative theories," & Democrats Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #156

There are people here suggesting Trump ended sex trafficking and/or Pizzagate was real ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #157

ABC must be making money off of the show. Are there any sitcoms that parody the Trump crowd on TV? jalan48 Mar 2018 #10

ABC is making money off the show and making money off trump mucifer Mar 2018 #12

I agree. That's what it about. jalan48 Mar 2018 #22

And Roseanne herself is getting her huge tax break mucifer Mar 2018 #24

Ever heard of SNL? B2G Mar 2018 #14

I always thought of SNL as more late night TV. Isn't Rosanne prime time? I was thinking more of that jalan48 Mar 2018 #21

Do you watch Shameless ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #29

Did you note Darlenes daughter is from Shameless? nolabear Mar 2018 #31

i haven't seen that one-thanks. I'll try and find it on Hulu. jalan48 Mar 2018 #34

Will and Grace leftynyc Mar 2018 #41

Thanks, I haven't seen it but I have heard of it. Does it put down the conservative Trump crowd? jalan48 Mar 2018 #42

They've been making fun leftynyc Apr 2018 #134

Will and grace do it constantly. Tipperary Mar 2018 #48

Thanks. I'm going to watch it. jalan48 Mar 2018 #49

The same reason they make all characters to be cartoon versions of real people. former9thward Mar 2018 #18

She's the Meathead to Archie (Rosanne). Lint Head Mar 2018 #26

The analogy would hold up... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #103

Good point. Carroll O'Connor was a liberal. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #107

No and I didn't intend to say it was the same thing. What I'm implying is that the writers Lint Head Mar 2018 #109

Not at all. But nice try. Archie's views were made fun of. Meathead was the sensible one. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #147

. Lint Head Apr 2018 #158

Because its comedy? nolabear Mar 2018 #30

Nice to see someone gets it. B2G Mar 2018 #32

Im a huge fan of jesters and holy fools. nolabear Mar 2018 #33

... Kali Mar 2018 #106

Could you cite the rule in comedy that mandates liberal characters have to appear unhinged ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #37

Comedy is about defying rules. I only know one. nolabear Mar 2018 #39

She did not appear unhinged. She was her usual Jackie character. Tipperary Mar 2018 #44

See post #58 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #68

I watched the show. Unlike you. Tipperary Mar 2018 #98

"Did she refuse you an autograph at some point? " DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #99

Since you seem to enjoy the show, and I don't watch GusBob Mar 2018 #40

I think its a caricature too. nolabear Mar 2018 #87

Thank you for your reply GusBob Mar 2018 #122

Good grief. It's a COMEDY, not a documentary RandomAccess Mar 2018 #105

Dude I am just referencing things I read posted on Du GusBob Mar 2018 #121

Hang in there Gus. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #127

Hear, hear Puzzledtraveller Mar 2018 #45

You said that perfectly. Tipperary Mar 2018 #50

It's propaganda couched in comedic terms. It's pro-Trump propaganda, intended to advertise... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #149

Sitcoms by their very nature are cartoonish Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #35

Roseanne is a pathetic excuse for a human. She does not portray conservatives in a good light. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #36

Ive noticed that as well BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #38

Oooh. Insulting those who disagree with you. cwydro Mar 2018 #51

Im sorry you feel that way. BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #62

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #66

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #65

You seem obsessed with this. I missed out on all this as it began last week, but I see you Tipperary Mar 2018 #43

And even less on various primaries underway Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #53

But Roseanne seems to be the hot topic for this op. Tipperary Mar 2018 #96

I think there are so many Roseanne threads because it... LAS14 Mar 2018 #97

Now you are talking about me "behind my back" DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #112

See post #56 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #61

Because, of course, progressives can only think about one particular issue at a time... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #104

Hmmmm DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #117

Sitcoms usually have uninspired stereotypes for characters. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #54

Because it's a comedy. Roseanne is just as over the top. Dan and Darleen hold it steady. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #72

Who knew an Obama hating Trumpkin could engender so much love here BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #76

I am reluctant to speak ill DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #80

If I could Id try for a real honest conversation re that. nolabear Mar 2018 #90

I don't like Roseanne's views as expressed by her vile tweets. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #91

There's a difference between those who like her and those who like the show. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #93

If someone said she is very successful would it be fair to assume that person liked her ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #94

Makes sense to me. We should be able to talk about those things. nolabear Mar 2018 #95

It's not as much a "progressive board" as it is a "Democrat's board" misanthrope Mar 2018 #111

It's a Democratic Board. Our Democratic Principles are Cha Mar 2018 #125

Youre making so much more out of it. nolabear Mar 2018 #89

Shes a fucking traitor. Used to be on the left. liberalnarb Mar 2018 #101

Yeah this one trips me right out GusBob Mar 2018 #123

Would you say Roseanne has fans in the strangest of places ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #128

Check out this now deleted tweet DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #130

Because it is a hit job on Liberals as well as an attempt to normalize Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #82

I will do an impromptu poll. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #83

We wore it to the march...haven't had it on except for the other march since then. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #113

So would be it fair for me to conclude it isn't part of your everyday attire ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #114

No, I don't go out and deliberately make trouble. I am a "I hate what you say but will defend Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #137

Why would anyone watch Roseanne? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #88

the shows just as crappy the second time around samnsara Mar 2018 #92

Roseanne today is the Archie Bunker of the 70s benld74 Mar 2018 #118

Apples and oranges BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #119

Caroll O'Connor hated his Archie Bunker character DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #120

the character was also portrayed as a a joke and bigot JI7 Apr 2018 #135

Yeah, that too. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #139

Because The Writing Is Terrible ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2018 #129

I am not advocating a boycott of Roseanne DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #131

She was Roseanne's foil during the original show customerserviceguy Apr 2018 #159