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In reply to the discussion: "Ken Starr was overzealous...Mueller is the 21st century version of Eliot Ness." [View all]Jarqui
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Bill Clinton was never convicted of a crime. He was fined for contempt in a civil court and got his ability to practice law suspended for five years.
Like Clinton, they're looking into deception when it comes to Trump's disclosures when he took office. But all these other things they are looking into on Trump are criminal: obstruction, bribery, treason, collusion, money laundering, and they're probably looking into tax evasion while they are at it.
A number of those who were around Trump have already plead guilty.
A number of others who were around Trump are facing criminal charges.
The investigation continues which means they haven't finished. Therefore, there is likely more to come with something that has already delivered criminal convictions.
They're trying to line up speaking with Trump himself so he is still very much a person of interest with many Republicans hoping Trump does not speak with Mueller because he could incriminate himself - which "looks" bad
There have been several reports about Trump wanting to fire Mueller which looks bad
The circumstantial evidence around the Russian collusion concern is massive. Most have concluded the Russians interfered in the election. They have established many people in Trump's circle associating with Russians leading up to Nov 2016. There are only a few more dots of evidence to join to match the allegations.
The Steele dossier remains as not yet fully proven but parts of it have been established and nothing in it of significance has been disproved.
Lots more could be said on the other evidence that has been published
Trump's lawyers are jumping ship while many other good lawyers turn him down which is an eyebrow raising cause for concern.
His White House cabinet/staff high turnover is also not a good sign as a number of departures have cut a deal with Mueller.
At the beginning of the year, oddsmakers thought it was nearly twice as likely that Trump will be impeached as it would be that he will serve four years in office. It "looks" bad to them as well.