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Jarqui

(10,922 posts)
28. In response:
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 11:50 PM
Apr 2018

You said:

A whole bunch of things you have posted are inaccurate.

You say: "A number of those who were around Trump have already plead guilty." Well if by a "number" you mean 2. And they plead guilty to process crimes not crimes relating to the substance of the investigation. They plead guilty to lying to investigators. The 3 others who plead guilty were minor people not "around" Trump and they plead either to lying or identity theft.


Rick Gates, Manafort right hand man:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/gates-guilty-plea-mueller-russia/index.html
Gates, 45, was Manafort's right-hand man for a decade, was privy to most, if not all, of Manafort's activities during the campaign and stayed in the Trump orbit after Manafort's exit.
- plead guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI and is charged with money laundering

George Papadopoulos, Trump campaign adviser :
Why George Papadopoulos' guilty plea is a much bigger problem for Trump than the Manafort indictment
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/george-papadopolous-trump-guilty/index.html
- for lying to the FBI

Michael Flynn, Former Trump national security adviser:
Flynn pleads guilty to lying to FBI, is cooperating with Mueller
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html

London lawyer Alex Van der Zwaan
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/587262174/mueller-investigation-secures-another-guilty-plea
- for lying to the FBI and failure to produce emails
He was a lawyer for Gates/Manafort
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/27/politics/alex-van-der-zwaan-memorandum/index.html
Van der Zwaan recorded a phone call with :
That Gates and the unnamed person, who had lived in Kiev and Moscow and worked for one of Paul Manafort's companies, were in touch in September and October 2016 was "pertinent to the investigation," a court filing from prosecutors said Tuesday night.


By my count that is at least 4 guilty pleas - all lying about Russia-Trump.

This guilty plea is also a likely connection:
California resident Richard Pinedo pleaded guilty to identity fraud in connection to Mueller's Russia probe
http://www.businessinsider.com/richard-pinedo-pleaded-guilty-to-aiding-russia-is-cooperating-with-mueller-2018-2
Special counsel Robert Mueller's office announced Friday that California resident Richard Pinedo pleaded guilty on February 12 to one count of identity fraud in connection with the Russia probe.
According to the statement of offense, Pinedo created fake bank accounts using stolen identities to help users circumvent the security protocols set up by large online payment websites like PayPal.
A separate indictment filed by Mueller's office earlier on Friday said that Russian nationals used PayPal to purchase Facebook ads aimed at sowing discord during the 2016 election.
Pinedo appears to have unwittingly aided the defendants named in the earlier indictment in their efforts to create PayPal accounts, and he is now cooperating with Mueller.


On top of that we know ex-campaign manager Paul Manafort has numerous grand jury indictments along with grand jury indictments of 13 Russians and three Russian organizations.

People do not usually lie to the FBI about something like this for no reason

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We got Elliot Ness/Mueller.. Cha Mar 2018 #1
They had Elmer Fudd; we have Bugs Bunny. spooky3 Mar 2018 #2
Bugs Bunny! Cha Mar 2018 #3
Same to you, Cha! spooky3 Mar 2018 #6
Yes! And this is why: Aristus Apr 2018 #18
:-) spooky3 Apr 2018 #27
A recent poll showed that 70% of the people beleive that Muller should be allowed to complete the RDANGELO Mar 2018 #4
I doubt Mueller would want to be compared to Eloit Ness. former9thward Mar 2018 #5
Mueller is in his 70s and not an alcoholic so i'm sure he isn't worried about that JI7 Apr 2018 #8
Saying that Mueller is like Ness would turn Mueller into a broke alcoholic? Wednesdays Apr 2018 #13
Why would Mueller want to be compared to someone who became a broke alcoholic? former9thward Apr 2018 #14
Because the comparison is to their job not every detail of their lives JI7 Apr 2018 #16
Ken Starr went searching into consensual BJ because he couldn't find anything anywhere else JI7 Apr 2018 #7
Which is exactly why he couldn't charge either of the Clintons with so much as a parking ticket Major Nikon Apr 2018 #11
Clinton paid $850,000 to Paula Jones in a settlement. former9thward Apr 2018 #15
After the case was first thrown out since republicans were using it to push bs scandals JI7 Apr 2018 #19
If Mueller could just use the Ken Starr standard for Trump's testimony AdamGG Apr 2018 #9
Must-see TV PJMcK Apr 2018 #30
Our Republican Sheriff told me Mueller's a good guy Liberty Belle Apr 2018 #10
Worst thing Starr got Bill Clinton on was lying about Monica Lewinsky Jarqui Apr 2018 #12
The difference is lying under oath. former9thward Apr 2018 #17
Looks trivial in comparison to the charges Trump looks like he'll face Jarqui Apr 2018 #20
I don't know. former9thward Apr 2018 #21
Bahahaha. Trump is going down hard blake2012 Apr 2018 #24
I do not think you have to be part of Mueller's team to have an opinion on what it "looks" like Jarqui Apr 2018 #25
A whole bunch of things you have posted are inaccurate. former9thward Apr 2018 #26
In response: Jarqui Apr 2018 #28
When this is all said and done former9thward Apr 2018 #37
In response 2: Jarqui Apr 2018 #29
None of these were cabinet members. former9thward Apr 2018 #34
Flynn was National Security Advisor and a member of his cabinet Jarqui Apr 2018 #38
Flynn was not a member of the cabinet in 2016 former9thward Apr 2018 #39
He was a member of Trump's cabinet. Period. Jarqui Apr 2018 #41
In response 3: Jarqui Apr 2018 #32
I wish Mueller could read this stuff. former9thward Apr 2018 #35
He already has. Jarqui Apr 2018 #40
In Response 4: Jarqui Apr 2018 #33
Ahh no. former9thward Apr 2018 #36
"always behind closed doors"? Really? Jarqui Apr 2018 #42
Well ... FakeNoose Apr 2018 #22
We will have to greatly expand our prison capacity former9thward Apr 2018 #23
Such a perfect analogy PatSeg Apr 2018 #31
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