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RandomAccess

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4. Uh, wrong question.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 11:36 AM
Apr 2018

We blew the hell out of Trump in 2016. We'll do it again in 2020 (if he's still in office). So the question becomes: what do we have to do to overcome all the vote stealing mechanisms:

Hillary didn't lose because she was less POPULAR. She lost because of James Comey's letters and because of some even more important factors -- more important because they're not going away. They will be used against us in every election going forward, unless we can stop them.

The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.

We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691




Here is how they stole the election, well this and KGB operatives V Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/



23:00 6/25/2017
PALMER: Rigged election: Donald Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-donald-trump-won-every-surprise-swing-state-by-the-same-1-margin/118/

The most commonly posited explanation of Donald Trump’s shocking election victory was that every professional pollster in the nation – despite each working independently and using differing methodologies – somehow managed to overlook the same pockets of Trump voters in these states. If such pockets did exist, they would have existed in varying sizes in each of the four states, thus resulting in different sized wins in each.

Ask any statistician and they’ll tell you that a reasonable distribution of the results would have been Trump winning one of the states by one percent, won one of them by perhaps three percent, won one of them by two percent, lost one of them by one percent, or something along those lines. But instead the voting tallies looked startlingly different from any natural distribution. In fact they looked startlingly the same.

According to the New York Times, the voting results broke down like this: Trump won Florida by just over one percent of the vote. He also won Pennsylvania by just over one percent. He won Michigan by just under one percent. And he won Wisconsin by precisely one percent. That’s not how numbers tend to work in the real world.

On its own, this kind of suspiciously consistent numerical dispersion across the four states that decided the election would be something that could be written off as a mere fluke. But when you put it within the context of the numerous other ways in which the voting tallies make no mathematical sense, it points to the numbers having been rigged or altered.



MikeFarb @mikefarb1
#unhackthevote
Did Trump win Michigan? I don' think so.
Won by 10,704 but wait
75,355 Ballots Thrown Out
87 Machines Broke Down in Detrioit

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Trump is different than any other politician highmindedhavi Apr 2018 #1
He is not a politician. He is a grifter and a criminal. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #22
It's hard to know what will get people excited - The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #2
That is where you are not correct...it is always imperative to focus on the president in a first Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #23
I strongly disagree. A campaign focused on nothing but busting on Trump will fail. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #63
Consider 2010...one issues and the focus on Obama...not born here and healthcare Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #64
I'm not advocating for a "laundry list." The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #65
I dont know why but Justin Trudeau pnwest Apr 2018 #3
Yes, we need an American Justin Trudeau. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #15
I love Joe Kennedy the III and not because he is pretty...he is smart, well spoken charismatic... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #24
Wwcd Apr 2018 #29
Uh, wrong question. RandomAccess Apr 2018 #4
Facts are hard to dispute, aren't they! tonyt53 Apr 2018 #7
Don't forget! End the electoral college. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #28
+1 RandomAccess Apr 2018 #61
No doubt ... and I say this seriously ... STATES are an anachronism in fact ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #66
States probably make governance in some areas like education (organizing schools) Sophia4 Apr 2018 #69
I Agree Pretty Much With Everything You Said ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #70
I'd be fine with like 10-20 'state-like' regions, aligned on general political lines ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #71
THIS. Thank you. Hekate Apr 2018 #52
Someone richer and more abrasive than tRump Glorfindel Apr 2018 #5
Uh, no blake2012 Apr 2018 #9
I probably should have said "assertive" instead of abrasive Glorfindel Apr 2018 #10
True. We need someone who can deftly throw Trumps crap in his face blake2012 Apr 2018 #11
FDR could say "FUCK YOU" in elegant and patrican tones Mopar151 Apr 2018 #25
I would replace "abrasive" with "wittier and quicker". smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #16
'We go high'? We'll lose western civilization over that. We're fucked if this thinking prevails. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #49
BEZOS!! He's a real billionare...you hear that President Chump Wwcd Apr 2018 #32
A younger Joe Biden type Shemp Howard Apr 2018 #6
Agree. A younger Joe Biden would be perfect. Le Gaucher Apr 2018 #44
Barack Obama blake2012 Apr 2018 #8
Barack Obama would destroy Trump. And Trump knows it. Le Gaucher Apr 2018 #14
Someone who is not targeted for destruction by the FBI. (eom) StevieM Apr 2018 #12
Someone with most but not all of the attributes of Jimmy Carter. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #13
Not Bernie Sanders. DavidDvorkin Apr 2018 #17
Really. NOT him again. Why? He can't even decide where his loyalty lies.How are we suppose to know Wwcd Apr 2018 #33
I predict he'll start off strong in the primaries DavidDvorkin Apr 2018 #35
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #38
I think we should already know whom that person is and they should already be running NightWatcher Apr 2018 #18
Adam Schiff is a very smart guy and seems to fill all of the above needs. n/t monmouth4 Apr 2018 #20
My choice exactly. kacekwl Apr 2018 #59
It doesn't matter if "Perfect Rockstar Candidate" is nominated. As long as the issues with Russia lunamagica Apr 2018 #19
There it is. The process has been dirtied up for so long Wwcd Apr 2018 #34
While I will derive satisfaction from anyone defeating Spanky. I would take special joy retread Apr 2018 #21
Tammy Duckworth: Thai mother, American serviceman father, wounded vet, mom, bad ass. Squinch Apr 2018 #55
An African-American woman oberliner Apr 2018 #26
Trump won't be running in 2020. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2018 #27
Well, I'd say... bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #30
I like Kamala Harris for exactly those reasons, and she is as quick witted as it gets. bettyellen Apr 2018 #42
If Trump is still there Tom Hanks/Dwayne Johnson. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #31
A person with a vision of America after Trump is gone. Yavin4 Apr 2018 #36
A young, charismatic, fully Democratic version of Bernie. nt Binkie The Clown Apr 2018 #37
Bernie has none of those qualities. Bernie is a socialist & has been most of his life. Wwcd Apr 2018 #40
That's why I said "Fully Democratic" Binkie The Clown Apr 2018 #50
Exactly. Democratic values & platform. Wwcd Apr 2018 #57
I didn't even know who Bill Clinton was at this stage of the game when he first ran. brewens Apr 2018 #39
+++. Bill Clinton or Barack Obama for that matter. Wwcd Apr 2018 #41
Obama was at least on the radar screen compared to Clinton. If you lived out brewens Apr 2018 #56
"So let's leave the issue of being suitable and prepared for the job out." NCTraveler Apr 2018 #43
One other person besides Putin that trump is afraid to clap back at is ecstatic Apr 2018 #45
2 words: Joe Biden nt COLGATE4 Apr 2018 #46
Honestly? Anybody but Hillary. apnu Apr 2018 #47
George Clooney lpbk2713 Apr 2018 #60
One thing is certain, if we play that 'we go high' bullshit, then western civilization is OVER. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #48
I want Oprah, and I don't care who knows it. librechik Apr 2018 #51
TAMMY DUCKWORTH! Squinch Apr 2018 #53
I would prefer to see what the landscape looks like after 2018, but I understand your premise dameatball Apr 2018 #54
In a normal world anyone kacekwl Apr 2018 #58
Same kind who could win in 2008. Any old yellow dog. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2018 #62
Hi Le Gaucher syringis Apr 2018 #67
It will take the kind of voter who can see through the bullshit. Orsino Apr 2018 #68
I think one of the younger Democrats will emerge from the pack in the next 15 months, and the great OnDoutside Apr 2018 #72
Someone like Jerry Brown. He tells it like it is and doesn't back down. No "Reaching jalan48 Apr 2018 #73
The opposite of Trump. You can't beat him by being a bigger asshole. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #74
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