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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
42. They aren't running "criminal rape courts"
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:07 PM
Apr 2018

They are doing just what you say they should be doing:

"But that wouldn't preclude them from having their own policies on how these situations should be handled internally"

That's what they are doing.

"If a woman accuses another employee or manager of rape, there are steps a business can take to separate them while the criminal investigation is ongoing."

Not if they live in the same building and have to attend the same classes. Most businesses are not like that, and most businesses can fire anyone at will, so it really doesn't matter what their process is.

Whether things are reported to the police or not, the university MUST act on a Title IX complaint. They have no choice. This is not a business that universities were chomping at the bit to be in.


If they do not act, they will be sued by the alleged victim. If they don't have some sort of process, they will be sued by taking summary action against the alleged perpetrator. The university is going to get sued either way. That's why they've come up with these sorts of processes, so that they can say everyone got a fair shake, regardless of which side decides to sue them.

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Colleges have a rape problem because they're part of society, and society has a rape problem. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #1
+1000 ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #4
THIS. Fix the culture. TygrBright Apr 2018 #29
Correction society has a massive rape problem, and its mostly the fault of men. Agschmid Apr 2018 #2
It's not any kinda funny, but why is don't GET raped, Volaris Apr 2018 #27
separate campuses for men and women, and separate dorms on coed campuses elleng Apr 2018 #3
When I was at a California state college, back in the early 60s, MineralMan Apr 2018 #5
I was in college in the 60s too, elleng Apr 2018 #6
As it turned out, I discovered at the same school after MineralMan Apr 2018 #9
Sounds lovely! elleng Apr 2018 #43
The solution is to stop treating rape as a university discipline matter and pnwmom Apr 2018 #7
That appears to be the case for online and commuter schools FarCenter Apr 2018 #11
They should ALL be turned over to regular law enforcement. Rape is a crime pnwmom Apr 2018 #14
The problem is civil liability jberryhill Apr 2018 #37
Universities shouldn't be running criminal rape courts. pnwmom Apr 2018 #39
They aren't running "criminal rape courts" jberryhill Apr 2018 #42
That's great Sgent Apr 2018 #16
There's no reason the school can't proceed along a separate track. If a student pnwmom Apr 2018 #35
Why would anyone report a crime to the university instead of the police? gyroscope Apr 2018 #17
Ignorance, and pressure from the institution. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #18
Police aren't great about acting on the reports they do get, so. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #21
If by police you mean campus police then that's probably true gyroscope Apr 2018 #25
I mean The Police, as in fuck 'em. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #28
And you think the schools are better able to handle a reported rape then the police? gyroscope Apr 2018 #30
I know that most institutions are terrible at handling reports of sexual violence. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #32
Because you can sue the university under Title IX jberryhill Apr 2018 #38
Women don't report their rapes because? procon Apr 2018 #8
But bathrooms!!! Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #10
Any on campus process sarisataka Apr 2018 #12
I don't understand how it is legal for a college to investigate a rape without reporting it FarCenter Apr 2018 #15
The schools don't want it reported to police gyroscope Apr 2018 #19
Sexual assaults aren't always considered felonies. Also, Title IX gives students a parallel WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #20
True for some sexual assaults, but in what states is rape not a felony? FarCenter Apr 2018 #22
It appears sarisataka Apr 2018 #23
States should pass laws mandating reporting by school administrators FarCenter Apr 2018 #26
The solution to rape is to not rape mythology Apr 2018 #13
And the solution to gun violence is for everyone to turn over their guns to the police gyroscope Apr 2018 #31
No the solution to gun violence is to not shoot people mythology Apr 2018 #34
And how do you intend to force people to not shoot or rape each other? gyroscope Apr 2018 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author gyroscope Apr 2018 #24
"a massive rape problem" DrunkInTheAfternoon Apr 2018 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Apr 2018 #40
Thays not the take I get from him. I think he trivializes rape..... marble falls Apr 2018 #46
You wouldnt huh...got it Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #45
Ignore him, Elliot, he thinks identifying as a drunk is funny. marble falls Apr 2018 #47
Just noticed the name Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #48
For starters universities can quit pretending Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #41
A friend of mine her daughter was raped marlakay Apr 2018 #44
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