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386. What about all of those things? I think you are

Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:47 PM

Apr 2018

defining what being a progressive is based on views you agree with. Progressives don't always and don't have to always agree on everything for identical reasons. That's a given. Really, a fact of life that fits any association whether it's an ideology, a political party, a belief system, a marriage or a friendship. It's also a dynamic any successful association tolerates and works its way through amiably or at least respectfully. Seems to me you are picking at nits on some of if not all of this and I can only imagine why.

Let me put this out there for you. In my view, Sanders is one of if not the most progressive Senators and perhaps federal legislators in office. You seem to think because he views economic justice as intersecting with and foundational to virtually every other equal rights/opportunity issue and therefore focuses his attention on it above everything else, he is disloyal to progressive causes. I couldn't disagree more and find that disingenuous.

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Sen. Sanders agrees with Trump that Amazon is problematic [View all] KitSileya Apr 2018 OP

And what would Sanders propose be done about Amazon ? Trust Buster Apr 2018 #1

Well, after reading his NYDM interview, KitSileya Apr 2018 #4

+1 pandr32 Apr 2018 #206

Doesn't he get trump is only going after Amazon because Bezos owns WAPO also, which regularly... brush Apr 2018 #232

Bezos and Amazon will never zentrum Apr 2018 #296

If they're all done and out of work who's going to buy what he's selling? Maybe all the others... brush Apr 2018 #311

They don't care if zentrum Apr 2018 #373

Doesn't make the greatest sense to destroy the middle class here to go after customers in other... brush Apr 2018 #498

Nah, they'll zentrum Apr 2018 #591

This is getting critical. How long do they think their gated compounds will be secure if everyone... brush Apr 2018 #593

Agreed. But usually zentrum Apr 2018 #594

No, Amazon and similar operations are not ultimately Hortensis Apr 2018 #327

To my reading this sounds zentrum Apr 2018 #375

All companies are on the automation bandwagon. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #410

every business which would benefit from Automation supports Automation JI7 Apr 2018 #452

It's just that Amazon zentrum Apr 2018 #592

+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #578

There is a reason for this, by the way. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #253

Typical Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2018 #286

Why, he thinks we should look at the power and influence that Amazon has, of course! Demit Apr 2018 #10

Lol.."the very very big idea man", no less. Wwcd Apr 2018 #55

He's also not the president. Why doesn't he introduce legislation that will do that? George II Apr 2018 #110

Indeed, that is central to my point. Demit Apr 2018 #156

LOL. thank GOD People are FINALLY getting what is happening here Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #254

Maybe he will recommend Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #94

LOL Trust Buster Apr 2018 #125

Ouch. Hoyt Apr 2018 #128

Reduce the price of Amazon Prime to $27? George II Apr 2018 #130

Let's not throw out universal healthcare or education with the other stuff. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #259

Those who voted grudgingly after telling everyone they know and online...no matter how they voted Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #290

Yeah.. Cha Apr 2018 #422

Maybe Bernie should serve on Amazon's Board of Directors... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #437

Maybe ask him that? But since you brought it up, what would you propose Trust Buster? KPN Apr 2018 #168

I propose nothing. Amazon has done nothing wrong. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #173

Thanks for the confirmation. KPN Apr 2018 #178

Then tell me, what issue do you and Sanders have with Amazon ? Enlighten me please. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #184

Basically what he said. In the end, I think Amazon is contributing to a weakening KPN Apr 2018 #190

Left unmanaged ? What steps do you think can be taken towards a company that is abiding by Trust Buster Apr 2018 #193

Not many or none. That's the problem isn't it? KPN Apr 2018 #198

The wasnt much of an answer. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #202

Don't have time to get into the history of anti-trust law and economic theory KPN Apr 2018 #215

Amazon is not an anti-trust issue. They do not preclude access to other retailers to anyone. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #220

Predatory pricing, concentrated economic power aren't anti-trust issues? KPN Apr 2018 #265

There are a countless amount of online retailers. John Fante Apr 2018 #340

theoretical presence versus practical presence. What is Amazon's market share compared to any JCanete Apr 2018 #347

That is a really bad idea...net positive or net negative...who decides that? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #389

True. However, many of them sell through Amazon KPN Apr 2018 #354

There are no anti-trust issues here Gothmog Apr 2018 #388

There need be no reason. If Sen. Sanders says that is reason enough. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #294

Demsrule....do you really really truly think there's no problem here? Do you think Amazon is not JCanete Apr 2018 #348

I don't think there is a problem. Amazon is successful. They have beat the competition. I don't Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #391

Is that your only metric really? Would you take those words and apply them elsewhere? JCanete Apr 2018 #394

That doesn't mean we punish Uber ...we change the minimum wage laws...and on a Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #408

Yes of course they do have business regulating industries. How could you possibly say they don't? JCanete Apr 2018 #449

No doubt the government needs to regulate business...but attacking a private company is not Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #479

That view pretends that these companies don't have heavy influence on politics JCanete Apr 2018 #497

Maybe they do...but I don't want politicians deciding winners and loser and than deliberately Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #509

what trump is doing is irresponsible. Lets not conflate everything together. If a company is JCanete Apr 2018 #512

There is no evidence that Amazon has done anything wrong...there is no investigation and this is not Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #535

Antitrust law is essential in our system. It should be enforced more than it is. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #217

And because you have the freedom to buy from a lot of different companies, Amazon is not even Trust Buster Apr 2018 #221

I hope someone studies the market percentages and tells the real story on this. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #223

Amazon enables access to more competition and not less. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #233

We'd have to study the sales percentages in the on-line aspect of the market. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #242

It doesnt matter. Anti-Trust hinges on access and competition. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #261

And how do you determine access and competition if not in part by market share. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #269

Demand determines that as long as the market is accessible. Amazon increased market accessibility Trust Buster Apr 2018 #300

But how much of the market does Amazon itself dominate? Sophia4 Apr 2018 #396

Successful companies gain market share...it is why they are successful. It doesn't mean they have Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #392

We have antitrust laws and regulations. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #395

anti-trust is not based on market share. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #405

I am progressively getting weary from Bernie. eom sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #407

Amazon isn't violating anti-trust...but I am sure that once Sen. Sanders says some will immediately Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #295

You got to be kidding Gothmog Apr 2018 #381

No anti-trust laws are being violated. George II Apr 2018 #401

what the fuck...We need to regulate the digital world and Amazon. We need to, hey, bust trusts. What JCanete Apr 2018 #350

Amazon does not meet the criteria that would invoke a trustbuster...Trump just hates Bezos...and Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #293

What are the criteria and what social-economic KPN Apr 2018 #362

There are plenty of online places to buy things besides Amazon. I like local retail and Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #393

Sanders still invested in undermining the two party system. bigtree Apr 2018 #2

We Have A Money Driven System Parties Are Secondary PaulX2 Apr 2018 #120

"Bernie seems to be one of the only ones talking about it"? Isn't trump talking about it too? George II Apr 2018 #144

Getting Young People Involved Instead Of Giving Up George PaulX2 Apr 2018 #147

My kids and their friends don't like Sen. Sanders and will not vote for him. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #297

Mine are the same LSFL Apr 2018 #312

I think Sen. Sanders has lost more support than some realize. I see him trying to appeal to Trump Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #333

Saying We Shouldn't Insult Them Is Not Exactly Reaching Out To Them PaulX2 Apr 2018 #403

I think the identity thing and Mello...was reaching out to them. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #404

Smart kids! True Blue American Apr 2018 #466

I don't know about any of that, but they want fresh younger candidates in 20. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #475

Then why they didn't show up to vote for Sanders? lunamagica Apr 2018 #317

Maybe they were not impressed True Blue American Apr 2018 #478

That's what I think. They were not impressed lunamagica Apr 2018 #502

I am really,truly impressed True Blue American Apr 2018 #504

Then why does BS allow the products he sells to be carried by Amazon? lapucelle Apr 2018 #513

flip side DonCoquixote Apr 2018 #145

he got roped into Trump's latest distraction bigtree Apr 2018 #149

So Being Robbed Is OK With You? PaulX2 Apr 2018 #212

lol bigtree Apr 2018 #236

Oh please...some just have no interest in politics...Sander has little to do with it or most things Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #299

He's the Ralph Nader of our times. Texin Apr 2018 #123

Bullshit. He's the opposite. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #227

LOL. These contortions are so abysmal lately. R B Garr Apr 2018 #330

Ding ding ding... we have a winner!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #425

Nader was key in giving Bush the 2000 victory Gothmog Apr 2018 #307

I agree about Florida but disagree about New Hampshire Jim Lane Apr 2018 #406

300,000 Democrats voted for Bush in Florida. alarimer Apr 2018 #491

It makes me angry that we cant have these issues, he TAKES them from us. We Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #260

Nice Bernie, way to suck up to tRump voters njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #3

Lol.. Bernie doesn't "suck up" to squat.. whathehell Apr 2018 #9

Bingo. marble falls Apr 2018 #11

Thank you. whathehell Apr 2018 #19

We Democrats are shooting ourselves in the foot. We need to remember the upcoming election... marble falls Apr 2018 #143

Ansolutely.. whathehell Apr 2018 #361

+ 1 nt backtoblue Apr 2018 #397

Sanders sucked up to Trump voters in the 2016 primaries? I missed that EffieBlack Apr 2018 #12

Yeah, so did the rest of the world.. whathehell Apr 2018 #16

Something Sanders says April, 2018 is refighting the primaries? betsuni Apr 2018 #15

Lol.. whathehell Apr 2018 #17

Oh dear! Am I supposed to be upset? betsuni Apr 2018 #25

Oh dear! Am I supposed to care? whathehell Apr 2018 #32

Obviously you do care. betsuni Apr 2018 #59

Less obviously than you.. whathehell Apr 2018 #67

Refighting the primaries in 2018! betsuni Apr 2018 #79

I know! Nobody is actually doing that... so that's not what it is. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #91

It's absurd. betsuni Apr 2018 #105

That's their go to when Cha Apr 2018 #421

We are moments from annihilation of the human race and people keep insisting on Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #262

I know. Right? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #182

Don't you know? ANYTHING short of "Bernie's so DREAMY!" is refitting the primaries EffieBlack Apr 2018 #272

Whatever floats your boat whathehell Apr 2018 #359

He made his bed, starting with Russia Today. Wwcd Apr 2018 #60

Really, WTH njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #104

If you say anything critical of Sanders your are "refighting the primary" Dream Girl Apr 2018 #342

It's an intellectually lazy way to bully people who are critical of what Sanders says and does in... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #376

Yes PatSeg Apr 2018 #21

Of course. whathehell Apr 2018 #29

Apparently PatSeg Apr 2018 #37

Of course we can.. whathehell Apr 2018 #46

Even ugly, bloated, orange ones! PatSeg Apr 2018 #48

Looks like a lot of people have spoke about large corps. safeinOhio Apr 2018 #95

Lord knows PatSeg Apr 2018 #102

Exactly. safeinOhio Apr 2018 #107

Though I've always liked Bernie Sanders, PatSeg Apr 2018 #129

Well, he just sided with that crime syndicate in the White House. Wwcd Apr 2018 #151

I'm sorry PatSeg Apr 2018 #157

Haaha..re-read the headline, at least. Wwcd Apr 2018 #163

Yeah, I read the headline PatSeg Apr 2018 #189

He basically agreed with Trump who is attempting to destroy a company that has done nothing wrong Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #544

As a feminist, I have never supported Bernie and as a Democrat I efhmc Apr 2018 #160

Its hard to know for sure what Party he'll call himself next. Wwcd Apr 2018 #167

So you would have voted for trump? safeinOhio Apr 2018 #192

It is my opinion that someone who is not a member of efhmc Apr 2018 #258

So if he had gotten the Dem nomination, you wouldn't have voted for him? progressoid Apr 2018 #380

I'm old enough to remember a Democrat win the Michigan primary and I would have safeinOhio Apr 2018 #384

Ya want something new to worry about? Open primaries, now in CA and elsewhere Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #264

Having worked at the polls True Blue American Apr 2018 #489

Thank you! True Blue American Apr 2018 #467

You must be kidding, right? KPN Apr 2018 #177

Exactly. KPN Apr 2018 #138

Lets ask Hillary how she feels about Don the Con's scamming of the Wwcd Apr 2018 #175

But Hillary isn't stupid enough to do it in a way that sounds like she's on Trump's side and allows EffieBlack Apr 2018 #183

How dare you bring Hillary into this and point out the hypocrisy?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #442

This is not about large corporations. Thi is about the president of the United States going Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #537

Trump has a message also. Wwcd Apr 2018 #62

Um, yeah.. whathehell Apr 2018 #63

Um yeah, we all hear what bernie is saying. Wwcd Apr 2018 #82

Yeah shenmue Apr 2018 #109

Ever hear the saying "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"? whathehell Apr 2018 #338

Dig deeper. The everybody does it defense isn't convincing anyone new. Wwcd Apr 2018 #339

You dig deeper...I don't need to convince "anyone new" whathehell Apr 2018 #349

Haa. Nah, I asked you first. Wwcd Apr 2018 #352

Maybe bernie should have opted out of the battle between global billionares Wwcd Apr 2018 #343

Maybe, as a citizen and US senator, Bernie can say whatever he wants. whathehell Apr 2018 #344

And maybe what he says reveals more about who he really is. Wwcd Apr 2018 #351

Nah..Not to anyone but whathehell Apr 2018 #356

Haaha...ok! Bernie sides with Con Man Trump! Wwcd Apr 2018 #360

But Hillary's supposed to go away and shut the eff up EffieBlack Apr 2018 #358

K & R Wwcd Apr 2018 #411

Yup. Indeed EffieBlack Apr 2018 #414

Yup. Can't speak the truth about non Democrats but lies told for over a year about Wwcd Apr 2018 #416

I love Richard True Blue American Apr 2018 #465

Where, pray tell, did I say that Hillary should 'shut the eff and go away"? whathehell Apr 2018 #595

Precisely, for some, the rule of thumb is NEVER miss an opportunity to diss Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #86

Bernie should stop giving those "others" reason to be disgusted with his statements. Wwcd Apr 2018 #112

You think Trump has never ever said anything that is true? Kentonio Apr 2018 #142

OMFG! Time for bernie to own his disgusting statement Wwcd Apr 2018 #154

Oh for Christs sake Kentonio Apr 2018 #171

Bernie also "Agrees with Trump". The money laundering mobster. Wwcd Apr 2018 #181

Bernies reasons for finding Amazon problematic have nothing to do with Trumps reasons Kentonio Apr 2018 #191

The fall began when he shook RT's hand & got a media gig. Wwcd Apr 2018 #247

Bernie should have called out the president's obvious abuse of power not essentially agreeing with Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #539

There may be an Amazon Party in the making! David__77 Apr 2018 #292

Well said. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #418

LOL! GMAFB! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #179

I'm with ypu.. whathehell Apr 2018 #331

Imagine if Hillary was on the receiving end of such ridiculous criticism every day. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #420

She was-do you remember all of the crap posted on JPR? Gothmog Apr 2018 #500

I'm talkin bout these days, post election. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #548

There are threads on JPR on a regular basis attacking Clinton Gothmog Apr 2018 #549

What does that have to do with current post-election comments here on DU? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #550

You are complaining about attacks on Sanders being done now Gothmog Apr 2018 #552

LOL... is that all you have? Making stuff up I never said. Hahaha, good one! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #553

No one who is sane cares about what is posted on JPR Gothmog Apr 2018 #557

True Gothmog, but that doesn't answer my question... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #558

Were you around in 2016? ehrnst Apr 2018 #501

I'm talkin bout these days, post election. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #525

Then why would a private citizen be on the receiving end of daily criticism? ehrnst Apr 2018 #530

Sorry, didn't realize private citizens are immune from criticism. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #545

Straw man. Or moving the goalpost. A combination. ehrnst Apr 2018 #568

Yes IMAGINE, for comparison purposes-not saying it would be JUSTIFIED, so your point is nonsensical. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #569

If you are comparing apples and oranges ehrnst Apr 2018 #570

No, makes no sense... just IMAGINE what the response WOULD be. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #571

Response to what? Daily criticism "if HRC was president?" ehrnst Apr 2018 #573

It's okay... nm. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #574

If you don't care ehrnst Apr 2018 #575

Okay, you win Ehrnst... yes, I "moved the goalposts," riiiight. Good for you! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #585

Some people take being corrected very badly. ehrnst Apr 2018 #586

Thank you for correcting me... hahaha!! (And for the good laugh!) Yes, you're SO right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #587

Yep. ehrnst Apr 2018 #588

Yup, I may never recover from your self-proclaimed display of brilliance & superiority. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #589

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #590

She was and still is our elected president of the United States Hortensis Apr 2018 #503

Please GOD tell me you forgot to add the sarcasm thingy????? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #506

Because Hillary WAS on the receiving end of false stories/criticisms daily, many promoted on JPR BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #516

EVERY person who made it hard for our candidate to win is doing it still Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #526

I'm talkin bout these days, post election. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #546

No imagination required. George II Apr 2018 #523

Oh good grief! Seriously? GMAFB! **Where were you in 2016?? SHE WAS!! ** NurseJackie Apr 2018 #536

I'm talkin bout these days, post election. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #547

Bingo! It's kind of exhausting. KPN Apr 2018 #140

Yes it is.. whathehell Apr 2018 #363

I've been boycotting amazon.com CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #113

Oh yes, that is so annoying PatSeg Apr 2018 #137

A "gift" it says on the slip inside CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #158

Mine had a gift receipt as well, PatSeg Apr 2018 #174

But none of those things are the reasons for why trump and Sanders want the government... George II Apr 2018 #136

+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #35

Thanks.. whathehell Apr 2018 #36

Make that +1000001 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #93

how about +1000002! KPN Apr 2018 #172

Exactly! What the hell whatthehell?! Just remember, no good deed goes unpunished around here... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #42

There are still some PatSeg Apr 2018 #56

Exactly! Thank you! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #87

What's Bernie ever done to solve the world hunger crises. Wwcd Apr 2018 #71

Been paying attention to Sanders for about 30 years. KPN Apr 2018 #364

Women rights, Magnitsky, Foreign Policy, Gun Rights..... Wwcd Apr 2018 #371

What about all of those things? I think you are KPN Apr 2018 #386

Sanders is not progressive now nor ever in his past. Wwcd Apr 2018 #387

Your post is right on the mark. True Blue American Apr 2018 #468

offs. you must be kidding. KPN Apr 2018 #556

Bernie bashing, it's getting old. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #76

Very old. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #90

Aw. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #185

How is it "re-fighting the primaries" brer cat Apr 2018 #100

YES! This is the correct analysis! You nailed it!! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #132

+1... SidDithers Apr 2018 #231

The dance that has to be done here when talking about someone who is not a Democrat Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #267

That's exactly it. progressoid Apr 2018 #377

+1 grantcart Apr 2018 #486

HOW is this "re-fighting the primaries"? Who is talking about the primaries anyway? George II Apr 2018 #114

Thank you for that. Sorry you have to get ridiculed for being open, honest and truthful. KPN Apr 2018 #133

No problem, KPN whathehell Apr 2018 #399

One of the reasons I don't comment as often... the personal attacks are out of control here. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #555

But they're just misunderstood according to Sanders Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #14

Presidents and sitting Senators should not comment on a private company period end of story. Amazon Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #5

What about Halliburton, Hobby Lobby, Sinclair Broadcasting, Fox News, Phillip Morris, BP, etc. progressoid Apr 2018 #31

Ha. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #51

Absolutely not. You run the risk of hurting a private company. You only help Trump by supporting Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #69

You've got to be kidding. How about Academi (aka Blackwater)? progressoid Apr 2018 #195

You have Trump going after Bezos. It is personal...and it is wrong. A sitting Senator or president Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #302

Wow melman Apr 2018 #213

You do understand that Amazon has lost billions of dollars and market is tanking right? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #303

You said no elected official should comment on any company ever melman Apr 2018 #309

They should not run to TV stations and bash companies...legislation or hearings in Congress are Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #334

That's crazy! Guess we shouldn't regulate businesses, like investment banks, esply if it requires InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #424

Hmmmm... great question. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #127

Yup. progressoid Apr 2018 #204

Perfect post! True Blue American Apr 2018 #45

Thank you so sick of it. I agree. I would like fresh faces in 2020. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #66

Uhm...you know that Sanders can't change Vermont laws right? progressoid Apr 2018 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Apr 2018 #345

Amazon isn't a private company. It's a public company. progressoid Apr 2018 #374

it gave legitimacy to Trump's attempt to tank Amazon's stock. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #409

You nailed it. The point is NOT AMZN. The pt is using bully pulpit for PERSONAL VENGEANCE. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #426

I don't see that Amazon is a problem but if it is deemed so than it can be looked into...however, Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #480

Politicians need to stop reacting to the substance of his personal attacks, and focus Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #485

Exactly, and I would bet serious money that someone...either Donnie two scoops, friends or family Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #510

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #531

Thanks. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #533

that really makes no sense. Of course they need to. If you are suggesting something is wrong with a JCanete Apr 2018 #455

I think since Trump is lying that he could be sued... and here is the thing...I don't care what Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #519

on what grounds? What law? Corporations are public entities and not people secure in their privacy, JCanete Apr 2018 #457

You can affect the stock first of all...whether there is a law or not, it is wrong. A member of the Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #476

Actually there was a ruling that made corporations people...but I will say just one thing. You know Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #477

I agree with you that Presidents wield a huge ammount of power regarding this, but it is not JCanete Apr 2018 #521

Listen I hear you but I have to say that if say Nancy Pelosi had done this or Joe Manchin, you might Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #534

So Senator Clinton should never have said this about Halliburton? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #515

Halliburton was being investigated for breaking the law. Amazon is being slandered by DT. bettyellen Apr 2018 #560

No, the argument was that no sitting Senator or President should EVER talk about a company. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #577

A company under investigation by the government? Ha ha unavoidable. bettyellen Apr 2018 #580

Bernie is part of stock manipulation? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #581

Trump certainly is- which is why Sanders should have stuck to labor laws and minimum wage- without bettyellen Apr 2018 #582

So you don't have a problem with the factualness of what Sanders said Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #583

Sanders was talking about Amazon becasue of Trumps lies. Job one is to say they are lies. Then you bettyellen Apr 2018 #584

They can team up to go after Bezos. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #6

Jimmy CARter did it also and I immediately spoke out about it, NOBODY is to normalize that Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #268

when something is accidentally said that is sane, you cannot walk away from that sane thing and just JCanete Apr 2018 #458

I don't know... but I am kind of tired of Bernie. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #7

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #34

Hillary bots? Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. Squinch Apr 2018 #39

Hillary Bots? A Democrat you are not. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #43

Thank you True Blue American Apr 2018 #50

Exactly how has Hillary not moved on? Squinch Apr 2018 #52

She didn't kill herself. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #65

That is not what I posted. True Blue American Apr 2018 #72

TBA WhiteTara Apr 2018 #78

I Hope people understand True Blue American Apr 2018 #85

Problem with "both move on" is one is still an elected official, so he wont move on AT ALL Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #270

No,I meant what I posted True Blue American Apr 2018 #464

Need to stop what? I hope you are not suggesting that one of our greatest Squinch Apr 2018 #159

+1 EffieBlack Apr 2018 #436

As for Hillary, Sens. McCaskill and Durbin would certainly agree. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #428

Hillary tells the truth about Trump voters and McCaskill criticizes her and folks cheer EffieBlack Apr 2018 #438

I am tired of losing True Blue American Apr 2018 #80

Really, that is a good point KrazyinKS Apr 2018 #8

re: " there's only two ways to see this" - no, there's a third. thesquanderer Apr 2018 #13

Not good enough for the 'primaries are never over' groups JackInGreen Apr 2018 #18

Hey, stop with the sensible talk. progressoid Apr 2018 #23

A lot of liberals have problems with Amazon and Bezos PatSeg Apr 2018 #28

Trump lost True Blue American Apr 2018 #61

You are kidding about charges exboyfil Apr 2018 #64

If Mueller does not take Trump out True Blue American Apr 2018 #68

When Amazon refused to pull PatSeg Apr 2018 #84

Thank you 🙏🏻 HootieMcBoob Apr 2018 #30

There are over 90 million Prime members in the US. There are 126 million households FarCenter Apr 2018 #20

95% of Americans have shopped at Walmart last year. progressoid Apr 2018 #26

An elected official shouldn't, no. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #33

Why not? progressoid Apr 2018 #219

Unless the company is engaged in illegal activity, Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #257

Whining about Walmart hasn't worked. When one opens, consumers abandon main street FarCenter Apr 2018 #49

So we should just let them continue to fuck up America? progressoid Apr 2018 #58

What is the most efficient way of moving goods from source to consumer's homes? FarCenter Apr 2018 #70

Well, OK then. I guess whatever mega-corporations want to do is fine. progressoid Apr 2018 #92

Did main street merchants pay more than minimum wage? FarCenter Apr 2018 #101

You're not actually defending Walmart's business practices are you? progressoid Apr 2018 #203

I've been confused all morning over it JackInGreen Apr 2018 #205

Are they worse than the previous system of small retailers, distributors, and wholesalers? FarCenter Apr 2018 #210

Yes. Yes, they are worse. LMGTFY... progressoid Apr 2018 #239

The Walton family clearly leads in the Chickenshit Department. nt oasis Apr 2018 #390

Walton family are enemies of the human race Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #507

America's Least Generous Billionaires. Waltons are cheapskates. oasis Apr 2018 #499

Always remember.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #131

THIS... of course we should speak I'll of these predatory companies and those who represent them. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #429

My gods, what is trump going to do NEXT that some liberal representative is going to agree with JackInGreen Apr 2018 #22

Peace with North Korea the Horror. bahrbearian Apr 2018 #98

Hahahaha! You hit the nail on the head!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #430

It's not a one off Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #382

Bad bad bad. President must NOT attack amazon. american_ideals Apr 2018 #24

I don't agree that Amazon needs regulation. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #305

............. Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #27

What does Col. Sanders say? Ohiya Apr 2018 #38

Finger Licken Good?:) True Blue American Apr 2018 #74

Thank You. There's no more questioning who Sanders' aligns with. Wwcd Apr 2018 #40

Yet another attack on Bernie Sanders. Boring! left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #41

Amazon has become an octopus Perseus Apr 2018 #44

A great The Nation article on this subject (it goes WAYYYYYY beyond bookstores) progree Apr 2018 #77

Thanks for the links, we need reminders. appalachiablue Apr 2018 #230

Of course you do know, lots of small ma & pa bookstores use amazon.... Historic NY Apr 2018 #81

+1 CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #153

BS sells his books on amazon Cha Apr 2018 #423

What!! BERNIE SELLS HIS BOOKS ON AMAZON?? Wwcd Apr 2018 #440

It seems weird to me.. it's ok for Cha Apr 2018 #444

That's what CNNMoney is saying also Cha. Another good find, thanks Wwcd Apr 2018 #447

Mahalo for the link, Cha Apr 2018 #450

Good Lord! True Blue American Apr 2018 #469

You posted this twice today. Racking up the attacks on Bernie? Boring! left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #47

Thak god it was posted twice. I missed it the 1st time. Wwcd Apr 2018 #89

Alternative question mythology Apr 2018 #124

Speaking of "blind devotion"... Wwcd Apr 2018 #161

Because the people hearing Bernie agree with Trump are really going to pay close attention to WHY EffieBlack Apr 2018 #170

I think the Bernie bashing has "jumped the shark" on this one. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #431

Amazon is problematic. Trump hates amazon for the wrong reasons but it doesn't mean SweetieD Apr 2018 #53

For sure, people will learn the reason for anti-trust legislation sooner than later. appalachiablue Apr 2018 #240

That is nonsense...what exactly is the problem with Amazon? I don't see one. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #306

Bernie lives in Bernie's world and I don't think he is paying attention democratisphere Apr 2018 #54

Unhelpful, to say the least mcar Apr 2018 #57

Amazon Forced Warehouse Employees To Work In Suffocating 110 Degree Heat progree Apr 2018 #73

+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #134

Not interesting to some people. Workers might not count to some people. David__77 Apr 2018 #288

Right. There are lots of closet libertarians who don't care about working people progree Apr 2018 #301

Workers are going away, though. joshcryer Apr 2018 #417

Workers arent going away. The skill level of workers can increase. David__77 Apr 2018 #448

I don't know what laws we can pass to fix this though. joshcryer Apr 2018 #456

But, but, but... Bernie agrees with Rethugs that it's wrong!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #435

What is sad James48 Apr 2018 #75

Fuck Trump & Fuck Amazon too! They both manipulated their environments to become successful. TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #83

Bernie is going after those young voters, like those being led by David Hogg and his friends... kentuck Apr 2018 #88

And therein is the problem. How are we, the Democratic Party, going to adapt? KPN Apr 2018 #200

Teddy Roosevelt was also a great trust buster tiredtoo Apr 2018 #96

LOLOL. Here's Bernie speaking at Amazon HQ. He sells his books on Amazon too! Maven Apr 2018 #97

Figures. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #103

The young people like Amazon katmondoo Apr 2018 #106

Wow! I wonder why he flipped his opinion. What changed between then and now? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #116

When did he say he hated Amazon? Kentonio Apr 2018 #169

damn, every time I try to give him the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Apr 2018 #224

Wow what a great look Bernie workinclasszero Apr 2018 #255

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Apr 2018 #318

BOOM! lunamagica Apr 2018 #326

Oh my! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #332

SMH. Similar hypocrisy on trump's end: His campaign spent over 150k ecstatic Apr 2018 #400

I hate bashing people for where they give talks. joshcryer Apr 2018 #415

Are we the laissez-faire party now? BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #99

Greed is good. Greed is right. Greed works! progree Apr 2018 #119

You can't nationalize millions of small businesses, but you can nationalize a few large ones. FarCenter Apr 2018 #228

No you can't nationalize private businesses of any sort...that is called theft. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #308

Actually, you can -- See, eg Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FarCenter Apr 2018 #313

I absolutely am against that and the banking issues in 2008 were different...they agreed to it in Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #328

They agree about immigrant labor as well bluedye33139 Apr 2018 #108

He was all over television yesterday morning. The reason Congresspeople and Senators... George II Apr 2018 #111

Now THAT'S a very good question! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #117

He was last there a few days ago for events on the 24th and 27th. aidbo Apr 2018 #246

What I care about is him cozying up to trump, and him railing about Amazon even while.... George II Apr 2018 #275

I've been wondering about that, George. When does this guy work? It seems he is all over the place lunamagica Apr 2018 #336

Amazon is hardly the worst of the lot IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #115

Well Kit, what do you think about Amazon? panader0 Apr 2018 #118

I think it is best not to give Trump ammunition to shoot those standing up to him KitSileya Apr 2018 #139

"Of course Amazon is too big" panader0 Apr 2018 #141

No I don't. There is no law nor should there be about how big a private company should be...all this Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #310

I guess no one remembers when DU thought Amazon was problematic Dreamer Tatum Apr 2018 #121

The "mom and pop" who owned small businesses were the local country club elite. FarCenter Apr 2018 #155

Not before Sanders said it...sure I would like better working conditions for employees but Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #315

Amazon didn't shut down mom and pop businesses, Amazon shut down big stores like Borders JI7 Apr 2018 #451

Heh. Suuuuuuuure. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2018 #488

Mountian... disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #122

What's a "mohill"?...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #241

It's a mound of mohair yarn. Duh. Squinch Apr 2018 #314

Hehe... SidDithers Apr 2018 #337

Of Course We Need To Look At It Me. Apr 2018 #126

Amazon makes its worker's lives... zentrum Apr 2018 #135

And it is one of many...we need national worker's rights legislation and in the meantime targetting Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #316

Yeah, this seems to be a bigger and bigger issue. lark Apr 2018 #146

To equate what Sanders said with what the PGIC said is problematic at best... Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #148

I'm not a Bernie hater(nor a Hillary lover) awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #150

It is being reported as Sanders agreeing with Trump...that is so wrong Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #538

Yes, agreeing with Trump has become a habit Progressive dog Apr 2018 #152

Agreeing with Trump AND attacking Democrats dalton99a Apr 2018 #162

Yep Gothmog Apr 2018 #319

Let's see. Sanders gets asked a question (without any specific reference to Trump or his position). KPN Apr 2018 #164

This place is a far cry from whence it came. nt Snotcicles Apr 2018 #273

Not.Gonna.Happen. (sadly) InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #433

Imagine what will happen.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #492

Is he wrong ? Hasn't Amazon become a monopoly and a problem ? CentralMass Apr 2018 #165

No Amazon is not a monopoly...and both Trump and Sen. Sanders never mention the monopoly Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #320

They article that I posted makes strong arguments that it is a monopoly. CentralMass Apr 2018 #323

I don't agree with you or the article...you want to end a monopoly end internet and cable monopolies Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #325

Bernie needs to go and sit his ass down someplace. His ovetures to the trump voting public Afromania Apr 2018 #166

Hell sit his ass down in the Oval Office Kentonio Apr 2018 #176

Okay EffieBlack Apr 2018 #186

It's fucking comical, isn't it? LexVegas Apr 2018 #188

I seem to remember you all laughing last time too Kentonio Apr 2018 #194

At least this finally acknowledges that he used the R B Garr Apr 2018 #243

Better be careful or you're gonna get voted off the island EffieBlack Apr 2018 #266

Yeah, he had no name recognition despite being in congress for decades...how that was seen as lunamagica Apr 2018 #346

You sit and enjoy your little DU bubble of anti-Bernie hate Kentonio Apr 2018 #365

Humm...my post wasn't about DU. Funny you didn't address any of my points lunamagica Apr 2018 #367

Of course I do. Kentonio Apr 2018 #419

You have no answers. Asking about why he refuses to show his tax returns is not lunamagica Apr 2018 #446

I remember that too... now THAT was a laugh! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #439

... LexVegas Apr 2018 #187

... Maven Apr 2018 #216

... SidDithers Apr 2018 #245

... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #251

Sanders is so popular on this site! David__77 Apr 2018 #278

Luckily the group think of DU means not a single thing in the wider world. Kentonio Apr 2018 #366

That will never happen. He has the ability to spoil 2020 for the Democrats as Nader did, Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #322

Bernie had his chance True Blue American Apr 2018 #481

HAHA!! Yesss... Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #524

Wishful thinking. Many Democrats and Independents admire and agree with Senator Sanders KPN Apr 2018 #196

I like his policy positions fine but he creates his own divisions when he attacks the people he's Afromania Apr 2018 #201

I disagree that he does that. Been a registered Democrat, loyal Democratic voter since 1972. KPN Apr 2018 #207

That's what he's doing and while he does vote with us he's not doing any favors with Afromania Apr 2018 #225

Ummm ... I'm not talking about Trump voters. KPN Apr 2018 #277

His spouting off in support of DT's PR stunt isn't the solution. Bernie should have explained pnwmom Apr 2018 #357

'spouting off in support of DT's PR stunt' melman Apr 2018 #368

He could have used his platform to point out Trump's hypocrisy. pnwmom Apr 2018 #370

Sick of people telling Bernie to shut up... Bernie has every right to espouse his views... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #441

Yup. KPN Apr 2018 #453

Notice how all the people doing that melman Apr 2018 #460

Of course... hypocrisy knows no bounds when it comes to Bernie bashing. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #471

You're suggesting Bernie's a "complete asshole"? Just wow!! That'll unite the party!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #432

Unity? Bernie is a big reason we even need to be worried about unity. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #474

We can fight and squabble with each other as much as we want. Once whoever it is wins the democratic Afromania Apr 2018 #487

"NOT HELPFUL, Bernie . . ." EffieBlack Apr 2018 #180

But...But Me. Apr 2018 #250

Odd how that works, isn't it? mcar Apr 2018 #252

+1 Jamaal510 Apr 2018 #271

because that isn't being an apologist for trump. this is stupid. So stupid. If Trump came out and JCanete Apr 2018 #561

Breaking News: SomethingNew Apr 2018 #197

Ah, the truth plainly spoken. KPN Apr 2018 #199

Why didn't Sanders say something about Amazon BEFORE trump did? And, if... George II Apr 2018 #208

These aren't difficult to answer if you set aside your bias for a minute or two. SomethingNew Apr 2018 #218

If I have a problem with an organization or seller, I stop doing business with them. It's simple. George II Apr 2018 #234

How about the specific examples in my post? SomethingNew Apr 2018 #237

I don't rail against banks or oil companies or our electric company, and.... George II Apr 2018 #238

Wait, so did you not mean your previous post? SomethingNew Apr 2018 #244

You're projecting way too much on this. So what were YOU referring to about my quote? George II Apr 2018 #372

You've specified your way into irrelevancy and an unprincipled no man's land. SomethingNew Apr 2018 #383

Insult much? So you draw a false conclusion about what I said, get outed for it, so.... George II Apr 2018 #385

This is nearly the most delusional interpretation of a conversation I've ever seen. SomethingNew Apr 2018 #461

You may be right, but certainly not on my part. So, just who are you? George II Apr 2018 #473

Hmmmm . . . JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #229

He wasn't asked. But go ahead and KPN Apr 2018 #274

So you're telling us that he didn't like Amazon before trump brought it up? George II Apr 2018 #276

No, I wouldn't say. On your first question: KPN Apr 2018 #281

Did you criticize Amazon on national television? George II Apr 2018 #283

I think if you took a couple steps back and looked at your posts with a degree of remove, SomethingNew Apr 2018 #287

Oh brother. Like I said, mountain KPN Apr 2018 #304

LOL leftstreet Apr 2018 #211

Good exposition of dirty politics. David__77 Apr 2018 #279

He's giving credence to a PR stunt of Trump's. He should have pointed out pnwmom Apr 2018 #355

We need to look at a lot of our companies. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #214

Amazon captured exactly 4% of US retail sales last year. ucrdem Apr 2018 #222

p.s. 20% of the local economy in my area is Amazon "logistics" i.e. warehouses and delivery. ucrdem Apr 2018 #235

Amazon Is My Company's Biggest Competitor - I Love Paying Twice As Much For Shipping PaulX2 Apr 2018 #226

Amazon owner Steve Bezos is also the richest person in the US. Does this make him an oligarch? jalan48 Apr 2018 #248

Attacking Amazon is stupid Gothmog Apr 2018 #249

Pointing out the ever growing monopoly that it is becoming is not IMO. CentralMass Apr 2018 #321

It is not a monopoly just because it is large and successful and a politician you like spoke against Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #324

The facts speak for themselves. CentralMass Apr 2018 #379

There is no monopoly in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #378

I disagree. Twelve Democrats sent a letter addressed to the Department of Justice and Federal Trade CentralMass Apr 2018 #445

Read the letter Gothmog Apr 2018 #493

I would hope and assume that if any of the Democrats who signed that letter were asked, as CentralMass Apr 2018 #505

There is still no anti-trust violation described in that letter Gothmog Apr 2018 #508

Who made bogus claims ? Not the12 Democrats or Sanders. CentralMass Apr 2018 #529

The only bogus claims are those asserting that Amazon is violating anti-trust laws on this thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #532

The title of this post seeks to tie Sanders to trump. In saying that Amazon is problematic, Sanders CentralMass Apr 2018 #541

There are several sub threads where posters are asserting anti-trust claim Gothmog Apr 2018 #542

Nor did I or did Sanders, the titled target of this post. CentralMass Apr 2018 #543

Did you read your post 321? Gothmog Apr 2018 #551

I am referring to this post entitled "Sen. Sanders agrees with Trump that Amazon is problem" CentralMass Apr 2018 #554

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #559

Sanders. LexVegas Apr 2018 #256

Video and transcript: sl8 Apr 2018 #263

How dare you Snotcicles Apr 2018 #282

Indeed! Shocking! mountain grammy Apr 2018 #335

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Apr 2018 #280

The lack of focus that you pointed out is why I have an issue trusting Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2018 #284

........ jrthin Apr 2018 #285

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Apr 2018 #289

And the stock market is tanking because the Orange Idiot is tweeting about Amazon RandySF Apr 2018 #291

Lol. Sanders breathes and so does Trump!!! OMG!!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #298

OK so Trump doesn't release his tax returns. Why does he get to criticize anyone else for it? Initech Apr 2018 #329

Precisely. Let's see both Trump & bern's full tax returns since they both think they can go after a Wwcd Apr 2018 #353

This🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #462

This makes no sense. I refuse to get on board the ridiculous politic that is doing our nation harm, JCanete Apr 2018 #341

Crazy is right!! But, why should that stop one from missing an opportunity to bash Bernie?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #434

I LOL'd KG Apr 2018 #369

That's my issue with him as well. Too rigid & singularly focused. Easily played; can't adapt ecstatic Apr 2018 #398

He's STILL doing stuff that divides the DEMOCRATIC Party Civic Justice Apr 2018 #402

Shulkin has a different story about that travel thing. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #427

Thank you for explaining True Blue American Apr 2018 #483

We watched Civic Justice Apr 2018 #412

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #413

Wait, so were for giant corporations now? vi5 Apr 2018 #443

Apparently so... hard to believe. But, hey, if Bernie's against giant corporations... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #454

It's ironic... vi5 Apr 2018 #484

So spot on.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #495

Ironic... and sad, especially when party unity is of the essence. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #522

Wrong. We're against Trump profiting from the abuse of his position. Wwcd Apr 2018 #517

it truly explains so much about the fights we've been having on these boards in the last year. Truly JCanete Apr 2018 #459

There's a right way and a wrong way to address issues, ecstatic Apr 2018 #463

lol, Trump doesn't give a shit any of that. he is going after Amazon because of the Washington Post JI7 Apr 2018 #470

seem like the Trump machine is succeeding in "Leading people by Confusion" Civic Justice Apr 2018 #472

This is apples and oranges, and bullshit. Orsino Apr 2018 #482

Agreed.... vi5 Apr 2018 #496

Because it is. alarimer Apr 2018 #490

No Democrat or liberal worth their salt should support Trump either. Wwcd Apr 2018 #511

They fucking don't alarimer Apr 2018 #514

There was no equating the two until bern stepped in the middle of it. Wwcd Apr 2018 #520

no it isn't. Learn some nuance. jesus. JCanete Apr 2018 #562

ROFL!! I'm sure Jesus already knows all the nuance he'd ever need. Wwcd Apr 2018 #563

hehe...I mean, getting martyred on a cross is a little on the nose, don't you think? JCanete Apr 2018 #564

That's disgusting. You seriously think its funny? Wow Wwcd Apr 2018 #565

oh dear...yes, I think a lot of things are funny. I can find humor in things I think are sad. I'm JCanete Apr 2018 #566

Macy's are closing stores to focus on online sales. Do we punish them? RandySF Apr 2018 #528

Wrong Bernie. honest.abe Apr 2018 #494

I would argue that anybody who agrees with Trump is problematic. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #518

Trump and Bernie are 24 years late to this debate. RandySF Apr 2018 #527

It is hilarious to see Walmart execs whine that Amazon is ruining 'retail' jobs. They destroyed Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #540

is sanders really 24 years late to this debate? He hasn't talked about this shit ever before? hmmm? JCanete Apr 2018 #567

None of that matters. He should have pushed back on principal and he didn't. ucrdem Apr 2018 #572

no. I don't begrudge people not being foolish and agreeing with a stopped clock when it happens to JCanete Apr 2018 #576

Donald Fucking Trump of all people is accusing someone else of being a tax dodge?? Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #579