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tonedevil

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51. Your going to war against...

Tue Apr 3, 2018, 02:09 PM

Apr 2018

Senator Warren now? What did she say that causes you to believe she would shut down Amazon? Are you able to understand that it is possible to value Amazon's services and still think the business model is rapidly turning predatory? Those of us who do think Amazon is moving deep into predatory teritory would like to see those practices curbed. It doesn't mean I don't use Amazon and it certainly doesn't mean I'm joining any movement to shut it down. Amazon exists and it works for you, maybe you could try to develop some sympathy for the little people involved in getting goods delivered to you.

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Bernie and Trump are wrong on Amazon [View all] Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 OP

I would be opposed to destroying Amazon el_bryanto Apr 2018 #1

When did Sanders call for the destruction of Amazon? leftstreet Apr 2018 #2

He didn't melman Apr 2018 #17

Yep. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #20

That's not true Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #31

Not really zipplewrath Apr 2018 #78

... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #37

Actually using the facts is hard Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #40

... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #41

Hi nurse. Greetings from Ohio where it is snowing again. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #95

LOL Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #103

Yep. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #63

And also to breath new life into KPN Apr 2018 #86

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Apr 2018 #136

Ha! KPN Apr 2018 #147

+1 CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #152

Reading the OP a second time, TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #85

There is the line... tonedevil Apr 2018 #89

It is being reported on all the cable channels that he agree with Trump. It doesn't matter how you Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #97

He agree with Trump that Amazon was a problem....very unfortunate statement. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #92

Not in so many words. Fla Dem Apr 2018 #153

Yes. Intensely small-minded views. I mentioned Hortensis Apr 2018 #3

Are you saying there is nothing to be concerned about? We shouldn't pay attention or regulate? We JCanete Apr 2018 #18

Not at all. All change creates more changes, Hortensis Apr 2018 #22

sure, and I embrace technology, and one area where I understand Sanders but disagree with him, JCanete Apr 2018 #24

"We are at an interesting point in history..." Hortensis Apr 2018 #28

That's an interesting detail about Clinton I never heard, and that is more of a statement of JCanete Apr 2018 #30

Clinton said in her book that she wonders if she should Hortensis Apr 2018 #138

I totally agree. nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #32

Regulation has its purposes, TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #91

no way, big companies do all kinds of things. They source a shit load from china or other nations JCanete Apr 2018 #105

For the sake of brevity, I can only address some of your points. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #135

It cannot fall ultimately on the consumer. That's why companies put so much money into JCanete Apr 2018 #137

It seems like you are advocating for a nanny-state government which is something that I don't TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #140

that is so libertarian of you...like, government should be small enough to drown in a bathtub JCanete Apr 2018 #145

It's apparent that you have some misconceptions about Amazon and state employees. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #149

No, the pie does not grow.The pie is the pie because wealth is represented by what it can purchase, JCanete Apr 2018 #156

I did not address many of the topics that you mentioned TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #158

I appreciate the civility. As to bringing in some of those other issues, I only brought them up, JCanete Apr 2018 #160

Acknowledged. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #161

What the president is doing is wrong. it is not regulation but an attack period. He is engaged in Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #94

that is not a good argument, plain and simple. You agree with somebody when you think that person is JCanete Apr 2018 #116

There are many companies including Sinclair that need to be looked at...but it needs to Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #118

okay, that was mostly more reasonable to me, but yes, we do get to decide if a company is too big. JCanete Apr 2018 #119

And there is a procedure for that. And I bet you agree that Amazon would not be considered a Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #120

but then you agree that we have business deciding these things and regulating industries, and you JCanete Apr 2018 #121

I am all for regulation or we will end up like we did in 08. But I don't think a politician should Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #124

arghhh...again, how do you not. you have to to show what you need to regulate. I just expained that. JCanete Apr 2018 #125

I don't think our elected should be picking winners or losers. It should be about the law or Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #129

so, what about this....you are introducing legislation...you are asked while in an interview... JCanete Apr 2018 #131

If there is legislation, it will be discussed and it will affect the stock as well can't be helped. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #143

haha...its cathartic right? JCanete Apr 2018 #146

Yep argggh...my youngest just called her Unity group has a bake sale...but all of the kids were Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #148

Arghhh...made me think of the old batman show which my nephew loves...blam, splat...haha. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #130

hehe..I can see that. JCanete Apr 2018 #133

Great expression...I can picture you banging your head on the keyboard going Argggggh. hehe Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #142

Sanders didn't call for the elimination of Amazon. To assign that to him KPN Apr 2018 #87

Amazon, like WalMart, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #4

Macy's are closing a bunch of brick and mortar stores and shifting to online retail RandySF Apr 2018 #5

We should go back to wagon trains, general stores and unwrapped rock candy. Blue_true Apr 2018 #13

And governments exist, in part, to regulate behavior. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #58

Yes, yes, yes. /nt tonedevil Apr 2018 #67

In my state Amazon employs people Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #7

And treats them like shit. alarimer Apr 2018 #46

and pays a sub-living wage. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #60

I and many like me can not get to local businesses. Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #9

I understand that there are good aspects of online shopping. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #62

Yeah, they do't have health benifits Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #73

$12 an hour, a non-living wage, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #88

Well since a 'living' wage is not happening anytime soon. People need those low paying $12.00 an Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #98

So a living wage is unattainable? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #102

It is unattainable right now. The pugs have all three branches of government. So Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #109

When someone says a living wage is attainable now and is willing to risk Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #104

It is not attainable. You are right. It risks the midterms. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #110

I get frustrated with posts like this.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #10

Amazon is a lot less stressful shopping. Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #35

Quite correct... Adrahil Apr 2018 #50

+1... SidDithers Apr 2018 #45

Horse drawn buggies were great lunatica Apr 2018 #43

Many small vendors and local businesses sell through Amazon's platform IronLionZion Apr 2018 #54

True, but my response is still valid. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #61

That is not against the law and doesn't warrant being looked into. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #111

before you stand by that statement, look up what percent of retail shopping is done at Amazon blake2012 Apr 2018 #59

There are two reasons I don't like Trump (or any politico) commenting on Amazon: dameatball Apr 2018 #6

I agree. The ship has sales for those stores a long time ago. nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #8

It doesn't hurt when WalMart & Amazon socializes costs and privatizes profits--brick & mortar can't. TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #15

I was not aware of that. nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #16

Many full time RVers work Amazon's seasonal warehouse jobs and SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #21

What I am saying is, that after one season, most can not work another physical job again. TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #49

They should organize lunatica Apr 2018 #44

The seasonal workers are mainly due to the Christmas rush. So order early & don't victimize seniors FarCenter Apr 2018 #48

That's true.. I read a story about that. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #64

So when we regain power change the laws regarding minimum wage, healthcare and working Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #112

And I don't see that we should necessarily seek to preserve any existing structures.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #12

Give him time and he will get to Netflix. Bezos should sue the piss out of Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #99

There are other online retailers mythology Apr 2018 #11

That's true but Amazon has it all in one place and... Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #14

I live in a rural area mcar Apr 2018 #19

Don't worry. Even if they require Amazon to sell some of its company, there will Sophia4 Apr 2018 #27

We don't live in a socialist country. That will never happen because Amazon isn't violating Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #100

We buy on the internet all the time and not even 50% from Amazon. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #108

Many small companies use Amazon to sell their products. And what does this have to Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #113

IT'S ABOUT ONE MAN ONE COMPANY HAVING TOO MUCH POWER. kacekwl Apr 2018 #23

Then why does BS contribute to that and sell his book on Amazon Cha Apr 2018 #69

The Amazon Defense League doesnt care about all that. David__77 Apr 2018 #82

Bernie is not the arbiter of who has too much power. It is not his job. He wants to have hearings Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #106

I oppose any politician, left or right, who stands athwart history and yells stop. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #25

Agreed. One of the most hilarious aspects of this is Walmart's whining about how unfair Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #107

Don't worry. Amazon is not that endangered. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #26

I'm in a similar boat as you. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #29

Bernie didn't say you shouldn't have Amazon. Orsino Apr 2018 #33

Bernie is right? Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #34

Bernie's words here are not specific, and have nothing to do with Trump's tantrum. Orsino Apr 2018 #42

I am one of thousands of small ellie Apr 2018 #36

Yes. I don't understand it Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #38

Your going to war against... tonedevil Apr 2018 #51

I love Warren Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #52

Maybe it's just me... tonedevil Apr 2018 #53

I do worry.. Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #55

I think I understand your situation... tonedevil Apr 2018 #56

This is really going too far. Bernie chimes in with Trump R B Garr Apr 2018 #65

Tell me how you read that... tonedevil Apr 2018 #66

Call it what you want, but Bernie agreed with Trump. R B Garr Apr 2018 #72

I didn't think this was giving a pass... tonedevil Apr 2018 #90

It's tone deaf.. and as to trump's "motives".. Cha Apr 2018 #141

Hi Cha! Been reading your posts, too. You are right, R B Garr Apr 2018 #151

Yes, and by this time Cha Apr 2018 #157

No one is talking about shutting down Amazon but kacekwl Apr 2018 #75

what you say has nothing to do with manipulating a company's stock and causing losses because you Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #114

I also understand the raising Amazon workers pay may effect some business owners livelihoods. David__77 Apr 2018 #84

I don't remember Sanders calling for the end of Amazon. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #39

BS is selling his own books on Amazon.. so he Cha Apr 2018 #71

Again, he never called for an end to Amazon Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #74

LOL. But Clinton never accused Bernie of being corrupt R B Garr Apr 2018 #77

You miss my point. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #123

It's actually not like that. Bernie is being a hypocrite by blasting R B Garr Apr 2018 #150

I never said BS did call for an end.. so you can stop with Cha Apr 2018 #139

Correct though I do agree Amazon does not need to be in the newspaper business cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #47

Amazon does not own WaPo... Adrahil Apr 2018 #57

Right...........*eyeroll* cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #68

Really, so you believe a corporation is the same as an individual? stevenleser Apr 2018 #80

Lol cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #83

Exactly. You really didn't think this through, did you. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #122

I absolutely did... cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #132

Then don't agree with trump.. he's a fucking Cha Apr 2018 #70

So who should own news services? onenote Apr 2018 #101

I think as a society we should support more collaborative and non profit news sources. cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #128

Really...maybe they should sell it to Sinclair. (sarcasm) Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Apr 2018 #76

Nobody is saying Amazon shouldn't exist... vi5 Apr 2018 #79

Bernie Sanders Underground strikes again. David__77 Apr 2018 #81

I absolutely cringe whenever Bernie says "Well, Trump DOES have a point here..." Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #93

How many of the products on Amazon are necessities TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #96

That is a really good point. I completely agree. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #117

The success of Amazon as a business model randr Apr 2018 #126

Where people are right AND wrong about Amazon RandySF Apr 2018 #127

The problem with the whole tax thing is... stevenleser Apr 2018 #134

Yes. Absolutely. MontanaMama Apr 2018 #154

WalMart has a great online service, too. Often better prices. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #144

So does Home Depot! CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #155

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #159