Bernie and Trump are wrong on Amazon

[JCanete]

116. that is not a good argument, plain and simple. You agree with somebody when you think that person is

right on something. To not do so is childish, and LOOKS childish to the American people, particularly our base who care about sincerity...I thought anyway.

What Trump is doing is, as stated over and over by me, self-serving. I agree with you that Presidents wield singular power when it comes to what they can affect regarding a company. Trump isn't using Amazon as an example of an industry practice or situation, because he could give a shit less about companies hurting the American people. You are right, he is literally singling out Amazon for target. What has the effect actually been though? Looks like Amazon stocks are taking a downward trend for the last month. And you do realize that the things Presidents and congress do actually affect industries right? They do pick winners and losers with legislation. That has far more market impact than one Senators opinion, or even one President's dumbass tweet or statement.

I am certainly prepared to say that senators and congress-people should take companies to task in the context of their industries, either as horrible outliers or as exemplary of a problematic field. You have not presented a reasonable way of talking about these issues and promoting them if we just bite our tongues and don't point to offenders. that makes no sense in terms of generating public will to regulate, and without public will, there will certianly not be political will. Our leaders are supposed to lead.

So you would say that talking about Smith And Wesson or any other company practices should be off limits for ...reasons....

That apparently should all be saved for legislation. As far as I can tell, you even take issue with hearings that dress down CEO's that headed the banks that caused the banking crisis and stole from millions. But please explain to me how it is not ridiculous at that point to anticipate any such legislation if you don't convince the public that something is needed. There is no impetus without it, but a whole lot of pain at the prospect of trying to legislate without any public will. And as a candidate or incumbent seeking reeleciton, how do you run on issues if you can't use examples in the world to plead your case?

Perhaps we can move beyond Trump with this discussion, because that's a point we agree on. He is irresponsible. Everything he does is irresponsible. We can't suggest that because this President is irresponsible that every type of action he takes should not be available to the Presidency or employed by Presidents...say executive actions. We know Trumps are shitty. Obamas were good.