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Jim Lane

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41. Your exact word was "loyalty", tested in part by "agreeing with Comrade Trump"

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 11:40 PM

Apr 2018

I pointed out that, based on the test you propounded, Bernie has exhibited more loyalty to the principles of the Democratic Party than have many nominal Democrats, who've been willing to go along with Don the Con.

While we're on the subject of loyalty (your word), here's a little quiz. Fill in the blank in this sentence:

In 2012, Sen. ____________, who was facing reelection, said he was still deciding between President Obama and Mitt Romney.

Hint: It's a Senator who's been mentioned in this thread.

To my mind, that sentence is very instructive about Democrats' prospects for "expecting any type of loyalty" (your words) from that Senator.

Further hint: It's either Joe Manchin or Bernie Sanders.

OK, you've had enough time to figure out where the loyalty problem might be. The quiz answer is... Joe Manchin.

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No, the Democratic Party isnt divided or in disarray [View all] comradebillyboy Apr 2018 OP

I have never seen Democrats so united 4now Apr 2018 #1

Simple truth. Especially in goals. Some pols Hortensis Apr 2018 #30

The 'kerfuffle' could be a good thing, media wise leftstreet Apr 2018 #2

I cannot say what I really think of him Skittles Apr 2018 #3

I Say Independants Should Go THeir Own Way Me. Apr 2018 #6

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #28

But then they couldn't sow discord and discontent Cary Apr 2018 #29

Will you still say that if Dems have a net gain of two Senate seats this fall? Jim Lane Apr 2018 #32

If Your Scenario Should PLay Out Me. Apr 2018 #36

The Bernie bashing is getting to be a parody of itself. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #39

Now, Now, Don't Put Words In My Mouth Me. Apr 2018 #40

Your exact word was "loyalty", tested in part by "agreeing with Comrade Trump" Jim Lane Apr 2018 #41

BS/Loyalty To Dems Me. Apr 2018 #65

Gorsuch would not be there if Trump wasn't there Skittles Apr 2018 #70

What I find constantly hysterical.... vi5 Apr 2018 #56

You're more charitable than I am. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #67

Oh believe me.... vi5 Apr 2018 #68

THIS! democratisphere Apr 2018 #51

SAME HERE! samnsara Apr 2018 #11

Of course we're not divided radical noodle Apr 2018 #4

Operative word "Democrats"! democratisphere Apr 2018 #52

I vote only for Democrats and radical noodle Apr 2018 #71

Bernie: "the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure." JaneQPublic Apr 2018 #5

I Can't Imagine He Would Be Allowed Back Me. Apr 2018 #7

I agree! But I'm not familiar with DNC rules for such things. However, JaneQPublic Apr 2018 #9

cringe-worthy Skittles Apr 2018 #25

The DNC doesn't -- and can't -- make the rules. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #34

I have never read anywhere on DU where anyone thought the DNC had that vote Skittles Apr 2018 #35

Then I'm confused by your own #23 in this thread Jim Lane Apr 2018 #43

saying it should not have been allowed Skittles Apr 2018 #44

Sorry, but if you keep using the passive voice I won't fully understand you Jim Lane Apr 2018 #45

um Skittles Apr 2018 #46

Did you read your link all the way to the end? Jim Lane Apr 2018 #59

yes I read it all Skittles Apr 2018 #69

"party oligarchs" -- you're calling Democrats oligarchs? betsuni Apr 2018 #49

Please note the context. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #60

Oligarchs. betsuni Apr 2018 #64

it should never have been allowed Skittles Apr 2018 #23

Totally Agree Me. Apr 2018 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Apr 2018 #8

This discussion is not about HRC/BS 2016. It's about BS in 2020. (NT) JaneQPublic Apr 2018 #10

copy that statement; you'll need to keep pasting Skittles Apr 2018 #26

It is not about HRC. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #14

This is NOT about Hillary.. These are BS' words in Jackson Cha Apr 2018 #16

Yes that was total bullshit, I agree. Initech Apr 2018 #20

.. Cha Apr 2018 #22

Why don't you really wish Bernie would stop disparaging Barack Obama, pnwmom Apr 2018 #18

I wish everyone would. Initech Apr 2018 #21

Disparage him how? DLevine Apr 2018 #47

By saying he was an extraordinary "candidate" while linking him to 15 years of Democratic failure. pnwmom Apr 2018 #50

I disagree with your characterization that Bernie said he saw Obama as DLevine Apr 2018 #58

He said he was an extraordinary candidate but didn't give him credit for being a great or even good pnwmom Apr 2018 #61

Understand the Bot network is Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #12

oddly enuff repubs control ALL the federal government and a majority of states nt msongs Apr 2018 #13

Bingo! vi5 Apr 2018 #55

I dont think we are in disarray. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #15

Bernie encouraged people to vote for Democrats TCJ70 Apr 2018 #17

The media will try to push their favorite meme mcar Apr 2018 #19

So he attacks the party instead of Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #24

THANK YOU! Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #27

Actually, the Dem Party is doing pretty damn good right now! 🙂 herding cats Apr 2018 #33

I agree peggysue2 Apr 2018 #38

Thats right!! If we were so divided would we be winning so many special elections? Thekaspervote Apr 2018 #37

K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #42

There are definitely divisions with the Democratic party oberliner Apr 2018 #48

absoluletly Locrian Apr 2018 #53

I don't agree with him completely.... vi5 Apr 2018 #54

I am Fired Up! Ready to go! For 2018. bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #57

Sanders has the support of many Democrats including myself. I understand that he maintains his CentralMass Apr 2018 #62

We just aren't in lockstep like GOP voters are. Orsino Apr 2018 #63

Agreed! I don't support the fetishization of unity. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #66