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In reply to the discussion: In Event Honoring MLK, Bernie Sanders Comments on Race and Barack Obama Raise Eyebrows [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)112. Right, I agree that that is what white people think. That's why you dismantle that premise by
ensuring people understand that they are going to take it back together from the people who took it all. Make that tired line of immigrants and people on welfare taking from the white middle class worthless, because that debunkable nonsense has no value in the context of this narrative. It is regressive. It is silly. It gets in the way of people getting theirs. "How do those with nothing have your piece of the pie? Its pretty damn plain where your piece of the pie actually went, and its high time you realize it." This of course is not what democrats typically do, because above all else, we continue to try to be conciliatory with the moneyed class. We don't want to make them the enemy.
You are right of course, that the public school system is a wreck, but I'm pretty sure Sanders isn't advocating that we don't fund these schools better and more fairly. That goes along with infrastructure. That goes along with not funneling money into charters, which hasn't exactly been a 3rd rail for democrats either. Arne Duncan liked the conversion of most of the schools in New Orleans after Katrina into charters.
My point about more money into the communities and its impact isn't idealistic wishful thinking. That is the reality of what more money does. Is it enough? Hell no! does it do all the redress? Hell no. Is it at least more of a step in the right direction than anything we are taking? Does it actually put more money in the pockets of people of color? Well yes it does. Yes it would. That little bit adds up to something. I'm not sure who is dismissing unfair hiring practices. I don't think Sanders has, but feel free to point to it.
Free health care, without question will benefit those who currently go without health care. I'm just guessing here but I'd expect that to adhere closely to poverty numbers. Yes, totally, that requires that hospitals build clinics where people live. Lets require that. Lets not shy away from free health-care because currently health-care sucks and has these black holes of coverage. That said, why wouldn't they build clinics here if hospitals had a guarantee of payment from the state? That is money being spent on actual health related care rather than on the insurance racket. So why not tap this base to get that money? is there something I'm missing here?
As to saying disproportianatley, that's just unfortunate language. I should say proportionally. Those least served deserve the most redress to that reailty. Infrastructure, you are right, should benefit everybody, though if you look at upper class white neighborhoods, and the rich parts of the city, infrastructure is not being ignored.
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In Event Honoring MLK, Bernie Sanders Comments on Race and Barack Obama Raise Eyebrows [View all]
sheshe2
Apr 2018
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K&R. Like Me asked in another thread, I wonder, whi invited him? Who thought
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#12
the sanitation workers were already unionized. they were marching because of the treatment of Black
JI7
Apr 2018
#21
Since I know who you and she are, to see "fed to you" makes my entire body tremble in rage
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#104
If King were alive, I bet he'd be more interested in talking about economic justice ...
markpkessinger
Apr 2018
#67
In case you haven't noticed, it seems to me that whenever Bernie is present it is always
smirkymonkey
Apr 2018
#88
Absolutely not. It was a campaign speech with a nasty attack on both Democrats and President Obama
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#85
I think there would have been less damage to the party had he run as an independent.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#96
agree, but he should have never been allowed to run as Dem, and never should be allowed again
onetexan
Apr 2018
#142
actually racism is a tool of the 1 % to divide us ,which of course
questionseverything
Apr 2018
#101
"Racism is a tool of the 1%?" Please just stop. You just don't seem to know enough
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#134
How do those studies do that work? That doesn't entirely make sense to me. Institutional racism
JCanete
Apr 2018
#103
If it was all and only about free labor, why were white people also not enslaved?
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#135
It was a valuable thing to keep that belief system in place. It was not good for poor whites.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#141
Study after study after study - none of which, I'll bet - Bernie has bothered to read
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#131
We should ask other politicians how being in the spotlight as a front runner worked for them?
herding cats
Apr 2018
#69
I suspect that in 2020, like in 2016, the GOP will lay off Bernie in the primary...
SidDithers
Apr 2018
#93
Don't want to get into the rest, but the truth is the goals difference IS there, and can be seen
JCanete
Apr 2018
#114
What Sen. Sanders has never understood is that both racism and sexism are the main
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#83
We just discussed dthat its more complicated than that, and that economic incentives actually call
JCanete
Apr 2018
#100
What policy does Sanders propose that won't actually begin to address these things?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#99
Right, I agree that that is what white people think. That's why you dismantle that premise by
JCanete
Apr 2018
#112
We are simply cynical about different aspects of the same problem. Actually, on edit, we are
JCanete
Apr 2018
#121