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Sun Apr 8, 2018, 09:12 AM Apr 2018

A letter writer says teachers have it easy; a Teacher of The Year responds [View all]

A letter writer says teachers have it easy; a Teacher of The Year responds
BY NED BARNETT



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The letter to the editor published on April 7, 2018


Teacher pay ‘enough’

Regarding “Teachers strike for school funding and pay in red states” (Apr. 3): I’m fairly certain I’m not the only person in America who feels like this, but I’m tired of hearing about teachers. If teachers want to be paid for a full-time job then they should have to work one.

Fact is: Teachers in our public school system work 180 days a year. Last time I checked, there are 365 days in a year. Regular businesses require employees to work 254 days yearly. Business employees are off two days weekly and granted 10 days of paid vacation along with holidays.

Teachers on the other hand: Fall, Christmas, Spring Breaks, Holidays and summers off. And then there’s their benefits – no major company provides pensions anymore. With the advancement of technology, in many of the high school classrooms teachers are no more than proctors supervising the students taking online computer courses.

I’m all for education. The NC lottery has pumped billions into the schools, the teacher average salary in NC has crested at over $50,000 per year, over 50 percent of the state budget is allocated for education and for some reason $277 per day with full benefits working part-time is still not enough. It is enough.

Barry Parker

Bear Creek


The response

Does anyone know Barry Parker from Bear Creek? I've got tests to grade today, but I need to get him a message. Let me take it one sentence at a time:

"Fact is: Teachers in our public school system work 180 days a year . . . Regular businesses require employees to work 254 days yearly."

I did an audit of this year, and I actually will go to my school and work 194 days this year. On the days I work, I rise at 3 a.m. and work until 5 a.m. grading, lesson planning and answering emails. Then I go to work at 6:30 a.m.. I teach actively for five hours of that time and do hall duty and paperwork, contact parents, and leave at about 4:30 p.m. That's a 12-hour day. Every day. I also work at least two hours on weekends.

So, 194 X 12 = 2278 hours + 78 weekend hours = 2,356 hours. If you divide that by nine (let's say business employees work 9 hour days if you include those emails after hours), you get 261 days of work.

So, I worked 261 days last year. I just did it in 196 days. Now you know why teachers are so exhausted.

"Teachers on the other hand: Fall, Christmas, Spring Breaks, Holidays and Summers Off"

What is Fall Break? Also, I do not get paid in the summer, and my 10 vacation days are scheduled for me. No Disney World during September for me, no sir.

"And then there's their benefits - no major company provides pensions anymore."

Did you know I pay $439 a month to my pension? And I've been paying in for 25 years so far? Not exactly a free benefit.

"With the advancements of technology, in many of the high school classrooms teachers are no more than proctors supervising the students taking online computer courses."

My students do look at curated digital-based exhibits in teams on any given day in my room. The catch is that I have done all the creation of the exhibits and the essential questions and I do all the grading of those responses.

"The lottery has pumped billions into the schools. . . "

Only 30 percent of lottery funds go to the schools. In 2016-17 the lottery produced $98 million for all 115 school districts. That's far from billions. Even if the NC Education lottery gave 100 percent of its revenue to schools, that would only cover about 19 percent of the state's total budget for K-12 public schools (NC Dept. of Public Instruction website).

The reason so much state money goes to our schools is that, unlike many northern states, our state Constitution requires that the public schools be administered and funded by the state government.

OK, so, back to the test grading (did I mention it's Spring Break?)

Thanks!

Angie Scioli

Social Studies Teacher

Leesville Road High School


Scioli is a teacher in Wake County and an advocate for teachers in general. She founded Red4EdNCand is the subject of a documentary titled "Teacher of the Year."

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article208244069.html
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Its time to put the "summers off" thing to bed. marble falls Apr 2018 #1
I don't know about you, but I do get my summers off. Igel Apr 2018 #14
Where I live, teachers get about 2 summer months off. 7962 Apr 2018 #25
When I was in school. Blue_true Apr 2018 #32
It is mcar Apr 2018 #65
Gigantic K&R. The woefully dense man (Parker) who wrote this is NOT all for education. Guilded Lilly Apr 2018 #2
Not to mention taking classes during the summer as well as meetings in the evenings. lkinwi Apr 2018 #3
Yep. CEUs, education updates, meetings with parents, Ilsa Apr 2018 #7
And just to make things perfectly clear, pazzyanne Apr 2018 #9
You mentioned the out of pocket expenses GrapesOfWrath Apr 2018 #41
That's how it is in FL mcar Apr 2018 #67
But many professions require continuing education. 7962 Apr 2018 #27
Wow, here on Long Island they get about $130000 year. onlyadream Apr 2018 #53
Yep, theres a big difference. But what can you buy a house for on LI? 7962 Apr 2018 #64
Both sides... Nasruddin Apr 2018 #77
That teachers have to pay for themselves mcar Apr 2018 #66
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2018 #4
Thank you Ms. Scioli for schooling this ignorant asshole from Barry Creek spanone Apr 2018 #5
Great response! Ohiogal Apr 2018 #6
They hated being taught as kids Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #8
Plus, everybody has been to school and believe they have the insight into LuckyLib Apr 2018 #43
BINGO! to both you and Blue Adept. maddiemom Apr 2018 #60
The Cons justgamma Apr 2018 #21
Mr. Parker sounds like a right-wing curmudgeon. Lonestarblue Apr 2018 #10
My right-leaning sister Ohiogal Apr 2018 #28
Ask her to go live in Somalia for a month. Blue_true Apr 2018 #35
My ex, a professional in a much better-paying and more "highly regarded" field... maddiemom Apr 2018 #63
Ive seen the same thing lol. lkinwi Apr 2018 #80
On the same line. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2018 #11
My mother was a high school teacher and then librarian. TNNurse Apr 2018 #12
Barry Parker wouldn't last a day as a teacher. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #13
True that. Heck, I taught ONE journalism class for ONE semester at a local calimary Apr 2018 #39
Well said. LuckyLib Apr 2018 #45
Thanks, LuckyLib! calimary Apr 2018 #82
Anybody arrogant enough to say Cha Apr 2018 #15
As a Teacher myself Red State Prisoner Apr 2018 #16
Not to mention all the classes you guys have to go to lovemydogs Apr 2018 #18
I think that teachers are the most important members of a society. Blue_true Apr 2018 #37
Welcome to DU, Red State Prisoner! calimary Apr 2018 #40
My daughter has a friend who is a teacher lovemydogs Apr 2018 #17
"No more than proctors for online computer courses" ThoughtCriminal Apr 2018 #19
When I taught I had an elderly volunteer iamateacher Apr 2018 #20
Teachers' teaching conditions ARE students' learning conditions. The public gets 365 days of ancianita Apr 2018 #22
Seems there's a Barry Parker -- tennis pro -- in Bear Creek, NC. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #23
That explains a lot not fooled Apr 2018 #31
I'm flashing back to Mittens's 47% speech. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #36
On the way to Madison,Wi. a few years back justgamma Apr 2018 #24
I also grade papers on the plane when I travel. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #26
My teacher husband and I just took our first vacation in years mcar Apr 2018 #68
I wonder if the dumb SOB even knew the thoroughness of his nuking . . . hatrack Apr 2018 #29
I don't know what it is like now and maybe things have changed, Stonepounder Apr 2018 #30
"Average teacher salary" Ohiogal Apr 2018 #33
Barry needs some perspective. SCVDem Apr 2018 #34
Anyone that thinks teaching is a cushy job, either have never been one, or don't know one. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #38
The Barry syndrome.... paleotn Apr 2018 #42
Some people are MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #44
Whenever I hear this argument I can only sneer in contempt Moral Compass Apr 2018 #46
I'm sorry to hear about the stresses you were put under. I thank you for your very honest spooky3 Apr 2018 #73
You're a kind person spooky3 Moral Compass Apr 2018 #74
No, Moral Compass, I understood your point very clearly. I should have probably said that too. spooky3 Apr 2018 #75
Scroll did a great job of pointing out the major points and explaining them in detail, but she left world wide wally Apr 2018 #47
"no major company provides pensions anymore" pecosbob Apr 2018 #48
You forgot to mention... StarzGuy Apr 2018 #49
Good letter Meowmee Apr 2018 #50
Another one regurgitating the same tired-ass, old argument about how "easy" teachers have it. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #51
Anyone think the teaching profession is thought so little of... Beartracks Apr 2018 #52
If you are reading and responding to this thread.. LakeArenal Apr 2018 #54
Thank you! Heartstrings Apr 2018 #58
the rs have been trashing teachers for 20 years or more , makes me mad. AllaN01Bear Apr 2018 #55
Teachers versus Lawyers. Who should get paid more? tecelote Apr 2018 #56
Won't make a whit of difference. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #57
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #59
I am an old man and I respect teachers onethatcares Apr 2018 #61
My parents were both teachers... Heartstrings Apr 2018 #62
Whenever I hear this complaint about teachers and their pay LittleGirl Apr 2018 #69
This has gotten ridiculous Yupster Apr 2018 #70
I can't remember any teachers who had summers off catrose Apr 2018 #71
Public guns guss Apr 2018 #72
Retired after 30 years and rolling in my $1250 a month pension... Hulk Apr 2018 #76
Thank you for your wonderful service. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #78
Right - but isn't it important to attract good teachers to teach your children? oberliner Apr 2018 #79
my son graduated from Leesville. barbtries Apr 2018 #81
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