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In reply to the discussion: 7 words that can stop any right wing talking point or conspiracy theory [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)go through an idiotic minefield which will take you hours to disprove.
I normally don't bother but if I find someone who is actually interested in facts and reasonable dialog the following works 100% of the time:
"You are wrong, <as they open their mouth to interrupt you, slowly bring your hand up with an open palm in the universal stop signal and calmly say, enunciating each word clearly and forcefully> and I can prove it"
Virtually every time the interlocutor will an astonished look. They know that they are just spinning most of the time. Many times they will say "really?".
Example
"All the regular people are getting together to 'take this country back again'".
"You are wrong, and I can prove it".
"Over the last 25 years we have had 7 Presidential elections and the Democrats have either won or had the highest vote in 6 out of the 7 and in the 2004 election we were in the middle of a hot war and the US has never changed parties in the middle of a hot war.
In this century we have had 5 Presidential elections and 2 of them or 40% the minority party was given control of the executive branch even though the Democrats won the election.
The legislative branch is even worse. More Americans vote for Democrats in the single state of California than in the 20 least populated states and Democratic candidates for Congress get more votes than Republican candidates but get less seats because of brazen gerrymandering.
Phrases like "take this country back again" are used to take power away from the majority so that powerful elites can manipulate the system."
For it to work you have to have established some other common interest like work, social, religion etc. but if some relationship exists then the "I can prove it statement" stops them cold.