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SixthSense

(829 posts)
15. libertarian is better than conservative
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jan 2012

if a traditional GOP candidate wins, millions will die in the wars they start - guaranteed. Listen to the likes of Santorum, he's virtually promised to deliberately start a war with Iran no matter what - and Iran, unlike Iraq, will be no small feat to conquer. It's as if he wants to restart the Cold War, and it would - it would force Russia and China to support Iran for their own self-preservation.

If the libertarians take over, some people will die from neglect, but not anywhere near the body count a conservative would produce. And the problems caused by them are easier to mitigate (e.g. we could set up SS/Medicare/Medicaid equivalents on the state level and leave the federal government out of it).

Perhaps the most dangerous part of getting a conservative is that when we do go to war under them (and they leave no other possibility on the table) almost all the Democrats will be conned and intimidated into supporting another insane war, just as with Iraq.

I fear a conservative far more than a libertarian. We could survive Ron Paul, especially since Congress would limit his ability to act. We could not survive a conservative who now has the unlimited power to start wars (thanks to Obama for the destruction of the War Powers Act over Libya) and assassinate political opponents (thanks to Obama signing NDAA).

While a libertarian would eschew those powers, a conservative would use them (frothing at the mouth all the while, probably), and that is what really scares me. It makes me want to look up backup plans like fleeing to Canada.

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The powers in the GOP will not let this happen Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #1
Yes, thats perfect. A short window of glaring analysis. WingDinger Jan 2012 #6
Libertarians are a psychopathic, sociopathic fascisthunter Jan 2012 #2
how do you deal with getdown Jan 2012 #3
A lot of young folks go through a "cult" phase... reACTIONary Jan 2012 #18
good idea. getdown Jan 2012 #20
lol, he won't win the nomination. And that's just what his cultist followers want. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #4
Yes, an attempt to apply National Enquirer black and white thinking to politics. For simpletons. WingDinger Jan 2012 #8
I agree. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #9
The whole dumbass ball of wax is a smokescreen. The rich tell them, stop inflation, and taxes. WingDinger Jan 2012 #11
We can dissect the rhetoric of the GOP too and sufrommich Jan 2012 #5
The Libertarian Party INTENDS to use the husk of the rethug party as their organ. WingDinger Jan 2012 #7
Libertarians taking over the Republican party isn't the worst possible outcome Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #10
So we can spend the entire election season with him railing against American foreign policy, the Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #12
I have personal experience in the war on drugs. We have 700+ foreign bases we cannot afford. Rage ov WingDinger Jan 2012 #13
The closest he gets to a debate with Obama will be if he takes a JoePhilly Jan 2012 #16
I wouldn't want to live in a Libertarian country JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #14
libertarian is better than conservative SixthSense Jan 2012 #15
Libertarians, as a group, are nowhere near as benign, as Paul. There is the dodge of, INITIATING VIO WingDinger Jan 2012 #17
Just my opinion NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #19
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