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In reply to the discussion: "Obama is the best president of my lifetime." [View all]I don't think you're taking into account what happens behind closed doors. Much of the "dealing with effectively" happens behind closed doors and never makes it to the news much less on the floor of congress. This is the game President Obama, and I'm sorry, but he sucks at. Politics has been referred to as a blood sport long before President Obama entered into the picture.
...not even sure what that means. This President has a significant record of accomplishments vastly more progressive than of recent Presidencies. Are you saying that other Presidencies have been more transparent? That would be inaccurate. In your previous comment you stated:
"I might not agree with or like everything President Clinton did while he was in office, but, IMO he was a more effective President than President Obama is."
Clinton had one of the least transparent Presidencies.
Jonathan Chait:
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It is odd that Bill Clintons imagined role as ass-kicking economic savior has become the object of such extensive liberal fantasy. We dont have to speculate as to what Clinton would have done if Republicans had blocked his economic stimulus. It actually happened. Clinton had campaigned promising a stimulus bill to alleviate widespread economic pain, with unemployment at 7.5 percent at the start of his term. Like Obama, Clinton needed a handful of Republican senators to pass it (Obama needed two Republican votes to break a filibuster, Clinton three). Clintons proposed stimulus was $19.5 billion. Unable to break a Republican filibuster, Clinton offered to pare it down to $15.4 billion. Republicans killed it anyway, creating an image of a Clinton administration in disarray.
Certainly, the circumstances faced by Clinton were different. (For one thing, the recession was far less deep and passed its worst point shortly after he took office, making the case for stimulus less urgent.) Still, nothing in this episode suggests Clinton possessed any special communicative or legislative skill that would have enabled him or his wife, had either held office in 2009, to pass a larger stimulus than the $787 billion bill Obama signed.
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The rest of Clintons first two years consisted of a demoralizing procession of debacles and retreats. A series of Clinton appointmentsLani Guinier, Zoe Bairdcame under conservative fire and were withdrawn in a panic. He steered his agenda toward right-of-center goals, like the North American Free Trade Agreement and a crime bill, serving only to alienate his liberal allies without dampening hysterical attacks from conservatives and the business lobby. Health-care reform collapsed entirely, in part because liberals refused to support a compromise final measure. Six months into Clintons presidency, after he had abandoned his effort to integrate gays into the military, Bob Herbert summarized what had already settled as the liberal narrative: The disappointment and disillusionment with President Clinton are widespread He doesnt seem to understand that much of the disappointment and disillusionment is because he tries so hard to be liked by everyone. Hardly anybody contested that portrait.
After Republicans swept the midterm elections, Clinton moved further rightward. He famously declared that the era of big government is over and brought in reptilian operator Dick Morrisnot yet the right-wing conspiracy-monger seen on Fox News these days, but distinctly right of centeras his chief political adviser. He signed a welfare-reform bill containing such Draconian provisions that several liberals resigned from his administration in protest.
http://nymag.com/news/politics/liberals-jonathan-chait-2011-11/
It is odd that Bill Clintons imagined role as ass-kicking economic savior has become the object of such extensive liberal fantasy. We dont have to speculate as to what Clinton would have done if Republicans had blocked his economic stimulus. It actually happened. Clinton had campaigned promising a stimulus bill to alleviate widespread economic pain, with unemployment at 7.5 percent at the start of his term. Like Obama, Clinton needed a handful of Republican senators to pass it (Obama needed two Republican votes to break a filibuster, Clinton three). Clintons proposed stimulus was $19.5 billion. Unable to break a Republican filibuster, Clinton offered to pare it down to $15.4 billion. Republicans killed it anyway, creating an image of a Clinton administration in disarray.
Certainly, the circumstances faced by Clinton were different. (For one thing, the recession was far less deep and passed its worst point shortly after he took office, making the case for stimulus less urgent.) Still, nothing in this episode suggests Clinton possessed any special communicative or legislative skill that would have enabled him or his wife, had either held office in 2009, to pass a larger stimulus than the $787 billion bill Obama signed.
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The rest of Clintons first two years consisted of a demoralizing procession of debacles and retreats. A series of Clinton appointmentsLani Guinier, Zoe Bairdcame under conservative fire and were withdrawn in a panic. He steered his agenda toward right-of-center goals, like the North American Free Trade Agreement and a crime bill, serving only to alienate his liberal allies without dampening hysterical attacks from conservatives and the business lobby. Health-care reform collapsed entirely, in part because liberals refused to support a compromise final measure. Six months into Clintons presidency, after he had abandoned his effort to integrate gays into the military, Bob Herbert summarized what had already settled as the liberal narrative: The disappointment and disillusionment with President Clinton are widespread He doesnt seem to understand that much of the disappointment and disillusionment is because he tries so hard to be liked by everyone. Hardly anybody contested that portrait.
After Republicans swept the midterm elections, Clinton moved further rightward. He famously declared that the era of big government is over and brought in reptilian operator Dick Morrisnot yet the right-wing conspiracy-monger seen on Fox News these days, but distinctly right of centeras his chief political adviser. He signed a welfare-reform bill containing such Draconian provisions that several liberals resigned from his administration in protest.
http://nymag.com/news/politics/liberals-jonathan-chait-2011-11/
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Given that he was chartered by Wall St. and big corporate donors to do their bidding, I'll agree
Erose999
Jan 2012
#96
Last week I listed one example of good things Obama has done after another to this poster
JohnnyRingo
Jan 2012
#39
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a proud liberal and lifetime union member local 717.
JohnnyRingo
Jan 2012
#62
You don't care a whit about Democrats, and you refer to "your union" in past tense.
JohnnyRingo
Jan 2012
#81
I refer to my union in the past tense because our mill shut down and the local was disbanded.
A Simple Game
Jan 2012
#104
If you aren't considering voting for Ron Paul, why would you even mention it?
A Simple Game
Jan 2012
#107
For you and all the others who need to know: My personal favorite has been Carter.
ixion
Jan 2012
#40
He also never said most of those things. He was FOR an Afghanistan surge, he ended torture
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#16
He tried to claim he didn't campaign on the public option.. But as we know he "misspoke"...
raindaddy
Jan 2012
#23
Here's a solution: HELP ELECT MORE LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES for Obama to work with.
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#31
I'm 32 and I say that same thing all the time. "Obama is the best President of my lifetime"
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#10
Given the history of presidents, we might ask: What was the best natural disaster of my lifetime?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#19
After Obama has had 8 years in office, I'll come back and compare him to Clinton, God willing.
Frustratedlady
Jan 2012
#60
That is a sad statement about politics & the Rightward drift in the US over the last 40 years.
bvar22
Jan 2012
#45
Notice that the title does NOT say "Best DEMOCRATIC President." There's a reason for that:
blkmusclmachine
Jan 2012
#51
Someone who is 37 years old was born in 1974 (unless he was a New Year baby)
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#73