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yurbud

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53. people did that. The problem is, you can't DEMAND enthusiasm...

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 12:05 PM

Apr 2018

Also, those who decry critics for demand "ideological purity" mostly seem to mean "We refuse to change our actions to fit the needs of our base and constituents because we will lose donors."

That is how you lose elections, get primaried, or even lose your party to some new upstart as happened to the Whigs who were too accommodating to the slave states.

I would prefer that the Democratic Party become more small D democratic because we don't have time to waste and their are major institutional obstacles to replacing one of the two major parties.

But if the centrist wing continues to put personal enrichment and concierge service to big donors ahead of what's good for the country, it will happen whether we like it or not.

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I just HATE it when in one breath someone attacks the traitor in the WH and the GOP [View all] Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 OP

Morning Joe often does this false equivalence crap /nt thbobby Apr 2018 #1

But Of Course Me. Apr 2018 #2

I doubt that he ever voted Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #27

Morning Joe bothers me less than supposedly neutral journalists when they do this - he is and was a karynnj Apr 2018 #3

Of course Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #43

I love it when Republicans demonstrate just how partisan they are down deep where Sophia4 Apr 2018 #4

It doesn't matter who dem candidate is. GOP will paint them as worst ever bobbieinok Apr 2018 #7

Of course you are right. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #9

I think GOPers take an oath at birth to hate and despise all dems and never ever vote for one bobbieinok Apr 2018 #10

The Republicans also got PLENTY of help demonizing Hillary R B Garr Apr 2018 #20

Nominating a candidate who has been constantly attacked for years, however Sophia4 Apr 2018 #22

Unfairly attacking a candidate is also not a smart thing to do. R B Garr Apr 2018 #23

The Republicans investigated and investigated, and then Hillary hired some of the Sophia4 Apr 2018 #24

We need to not create groups called Busters who actively work against our R B Garr Apr 2018 #25

We need a candidate who is not divisive. Sophia4 Apr 2018 #35

We need to not help the GOP by spreading untruths and contrived R B Garr Apr 2018 #39

What is not a smart thing to do is to join in with the Republicans who attack R B Garr Apr 2018 #28

She was more than qualified. It wouldn't have mattered which Dem candidate we ran. Wwcd Apr 2018 #30

Doesn't matter. She had well earned her right to lead this nation. Wwcd Apr 2018 #31

Seeing lots of that from the knobs at Our Revolution...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #5

"Eliot" it is all about clicks and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ pangaia Apr 2018 #6

That's where the bots came into play. "Most popular" & Wwcd Apr 2018 #29

That Pavlovian Response is the result of decades of right wing propaganda and psychic warfare. Botany Apr 2018 #8

Cause there are so many 'suckers' in the US. triron Apr 2018 #11

Yup. Yup. Yup. Hortensis Apr 2018 #12

Thanx to the non stop lies and propaganda we have 20 to 30% of Americans who still think that ..... Botany Apr 2018 #13

You cant believe rump anymore, nobody can, they support him because he will harm Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #14

the same people who blame Hillary for Behghazi worshipped Bush after 9/11 yurbud Apr 2018 #19

There are two kinds of criticisms of Democratic politicians: made up shit from the right and yurbud Apr 2018 #15

Nope Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #16

so there is no legitimate criticism? yurbud Apr 2018 #18

But much of the so-called criticism was also a ruse for endless attacks R B Garr Apr 2018 #33

folks inside the beltway think the only definition of "corruption" is the legal one they wrote yurbud Apr 2018 #40

This sounds contrived again, at least about claiming R B Garr Apr 2018 #42

I won't argue that Trump's not corrupt. The only problem with him yurbud Apr 2018 #45

Sorry but the time for those ideological litmus tests are past. Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #44

We wouldn't be in this crisis if Democrats had cleaned up their act before or during Obama time yurbud Apr 2018 #46

No it is the failure of the left to unify that has kept the GOP alive Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #47

So Gore & Hillary were peaceniks like McGovern? yurbud Apr 2018 #48

Never said anything about not having primaries Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #49

people did that. The problem is, you can't DEMAND enthusiasm... yurbud Apr 2018 #53

To quote Bill Maher Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #54

Between elections is good time to tell your "friend" to quit stabbing you in the back and telling yurbud Apr 2018 #58

Between elections is a good time Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #60

we will unify when you stop supporting republican calls for privatization, deregulation... yurbud Apr 2018 #55

I never supported any of those things Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #56

I was not talking about you as an individual but "centrist" elected officials track record yurbud Apr 2018 #57

that's what Dems have said for a couple of decades and why they win narrow margins at best yurbud Apr 2018 #59

Yes because the left didn't unify Trumpocalypse Apr 2018 #61

Democrats voted with the Republicans to gut Dodd-Frank. AtomicKitten Apr 2018 #62

I usually doubt the sincerity of someone ... lpbk2713 Apr 2018 #17

Same here. They were convinced to despise Hillary. Wwcd Apr 2018 #36

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #50

So...you think one candidate is completely evil and the other is perfect? yurbud Apr 2018 #51

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2018 #21

That is ALWAYS SO TRUE...... onecent Apr 2018 #26

Some people just wont admit ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #32

+ a million. Wwcd Apr 2018 #37

Almost as annoying as "What is the Democrats message?" BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #34

Lol. Yup Wwcd Apr 2018 #38

Me too ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #41

Bait and switch... BlueJac Apr 2018 #52