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Caliman73

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21. The whole "incentive" idea is taken from a Calvinist perspective.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:44 PM
Apr 2018

That perspective is that people are intrinsically bad and must be made to suffer their folly and should only be rewarded for righteousness. The reality from a Humanistic perspective is that people will do what they need to do for survival. Those of us who are in relative comfort and who have not faced that kind of existential threat, don't really seem to understand what people will do to survive, to cope with tremendous pain, to subsist.

Maslow created the Hierarchy of Needs pyramid as the basis for Humanistic Psychology describing motivations for people, with Subsistence or survival needs being the base and Self Actualization being the narrow point of the pyramid.

People are not going to be able to focus, in most cases, on the kind of "beyond the self" thinking that is needed for self improvement, when they don't know where they are going to sleep at night or when their next meal is coming. When those needs are met, then people can move on to more complex social needs. If there is a loving community, whether through family or friends, that helps people then move on to working on themselves and their self image. Finally, when a person has the space to figure out where they belong in the world, then, they can move on to how they will contribute and what kind of legacy they might leave.

Finland and other countries seem to be figuring that out. Hopefully, one day the US will do so.

Excellent article. Finland is truly a civilized nation. CottonBear Apr 2018 #1
They know how to do it with decency turbinetree Apr 2018 #2
Thanks for posting this article. CottonBear Apr 2018 #7
The whole "incentive" idea is taken from a Calvinist perspective. Caliman73 Apr 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Apr 2018 #3
Omg, the Republicans would have a cow!!! tavernier Apr 2018 #4
Republicans want to create a permanent servant class IronLionZion Apr 2018 #11
+1 sandensea Apr 2018 #18
i vote republican so i can keep my tax cuts that i got way back when, AllaN01Bear Apr 2018 #25
Ive been convinced of this for years lunatica Apr 2018 #22
Utah (Utah!) did this.By all accounts it saved a truckload of money. Squinch Apr 2018 #5
I recall reading about Utah's program. CottonBear Apr 2018 #6
Yeah, I read about this too. kag Apr 2018 #10
Mormons can be charitable IronLionZion Apr 2018 #12
Utah through the LDS Church has an established network that takes into account every aspect politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #13
This should have 500 recs - MUST READ malaise Apr 2018 #8
Maslow's Heiarchy of needs in action Phoenix61 Apr 2018 #9
Agree 100% Puzzler Apr 2018 #14
How is it possible? Saviolo Apr 2018 #15
K&R. lunamagica Apr 2018 #16
That line in your OP LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #17
I read somehwere that Salt Lake has begun doing this JDC Apr 2018 #19
I can see a "Any neighborhood, but not my neighborhood" cry on this packman Apr 2018 #20
Giving homes to the homeless is humane, effective and saves money. But America hates the poor. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #23
I live in a city where competition for housing is intense. There is more demand than there is supply NBachers Apr 2018 #24
applause for finland .:) AllaN01Bear Apr 2018 #26
How Finland helps homeless people FakeNoose Apr 2018 #27
Like food for the hungry, healing for the sick, safety for the victimized and exploited.... radhika Apr 2018 #28
as I understand it, even salt lake city is trying this approach. has seemed obvious niyad Apr 2018 #29
The problem i see... druidity33 Apr 2018 #30
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