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sabrina 1

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58. No, it wouldn't. Bush pulled this garbage also.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jan 2012

Back then the 'left' took more trouble to check the veracity of his claims. But amnesia has set in since then.

The troops are never the reason of these policies, but they are convenient scapegoat. All this concern for the troops, until they come home. I thought we got over accepting these stupid excuses for every wrong act Bush perpetrated against this country's Constitution. I thought we had successfully debunked his false claims, always shamefully using the troops.

Recess Appointments bonnarati Jan 2012 #1
Of course not. RC Jan 2012 #3
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Oops. Robb Jan 2012 #67
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Actually the Dems did do it once or twice. TheWraith Jan 2012 #16
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Alito should have been fillibustered no matter the cost. yourout Jan 2012 #27
There can NOT be any recess appointments made, because Congress is NOT in recess Tx4obama Jan 2012 #18
he doesnt want to look weak. like bill clinton who let a man be roguevalley Jan 2012 #26
I'm sure defunding the troops would have went over great with voters. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #2
Somehow the wars would continue as usual. RC Jan 2012 #4
Do you have a point? MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #9
Yeah, and I made it. RC Jan 2012 #13
Defunding the troops ended the war in Vietnam. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #10
No troops were defunded. former9thward Jan 2012 #23
So now we get to pass all kinds of fascist, unconstitutional shit because to not do so Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #30
Brilliant. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #31
It would have left our troops without pay until Congress would override his veto boxman15 Jan 2012 #7
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Isn't that what he did with the signing statement? boxman15 Jan 2012 #12
"Isn't that what he did with the signing statement?" Um, no. It's not. Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #33
I wish you were right. boxman15 Jan 2012 #38
You know, I've heard all this shit before Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #59
A "real" leader would raise, and possibly go "all-in" PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #15
I could not have said it better Oilwellian Jan 2012 #17
Good point, especially since the signing statement hands detainee status to the Sec of Defense. sad sally Jan 2012 #24
Wow. I think I need a cigarette after reading your post. Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #29
That is fucking bullshit. boxman15 Jan 2012 #40
The idea that vetoing the bill would have HANDED 2012 to the Republicans is a pretty tenuous one MNBrewer Jan 2012 #47
This action BY CONGRESS is inexplicable and unforgivable, no? What's the hidden backstory here? proverbialwisdom Jan 2012 #50
As MNBrewer pointed out Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #60
Very well said. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #43
I for one refuse to be held hostage by this fascist crap that we always have to appear to support Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #34
Why would letting troops go without pay until Congress overrides a symbolic veto do any good? boxman15 Jan 2012 #41
The Republicans are coming, the Republicans are coming!!! A Simple Game Jan 2012 #44
Do you REALLY think the troops would have gone without pay? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #49
Again, you state it as fact that a veto would hand the presidency to the GOP Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #61
No, it wouldn't. Bush pulled this garbage also. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #58
I wonder what kind of other vile shit will be stuffed in a future Defense bill that neverforget Jan 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #20
Even if Pres Obama would have vetoed it, an override by Congress would have been likely Tx4obama Jan 2012 #19
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Force their hand. mmonk Jan 2012 #25
Not likely at all. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #51
I'm sorry to say.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #28
Man, forget it... you'll never get through. SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #32
Worse, it will be supported no matter what is in it and anything except going off the TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #35
I agree Remember Me Jan 2012 #36
I disagree. Vetoing would have been political suicide. Avalux Jan 2012 #37
Vetoing would have been a huge gift to whoever the Repug nominee will be, that's for sure. stevenleser Jan 2012 #39
So instead of just caving to a Republican house of representatives, A Simple Game Jan 2012 #46
Actually it's caving to the will of the governed. stevenleser Jan 2012 #48
When did the governed weigh in on this? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #52
You mean like everytime defunding the troops gets brought up, or election time? Besides those times? stevenleser Jan 2012 #56
People who are anti-war should STFU because the hysterical majority can be stampeded into war? MNBrewer Jan 2012 #57
Where do you get all the hay for the straw men you constantly erect? No one said that. stevenleser Jan 2012 #62
Your straw man is that Obama's veto would have "handed" the 2012 election to the GOP MNBrewer Jan 2012 #66
Wow, that spin must have made you dizzy. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #54
No spin, it is what I have been saying all along. Read my first post in this thread. stevenleser Jan 2012 #55
So it's not spin because you say it? A Simple Game Jan 2012 #63
It's not spin at the third or fourth comment if you have been saying it all along... stevenleser Jan 2012 #64
You either don't know the definition of spin or A Simple Game Jan 2012 #65
he did the politically expedient thing paulk Jan 2012 #42
+1 MNBrewer Jan 2012 #53
hope Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #45
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