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jefferson_dem

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99. Impressive flourish.

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:12 PM

Jan 2012

You make so many unfounded assumptions that it's tough to keep up.

First off, what I said is factually accurate. Cenk recommends NOT voting for Obama and expresses hope that "uncommitted" receives more "votes" than the president as he runs for the nomination. How anyone can say that divisive (by definition) tactic actually advances the President's electoral prospects fails the simple test of reason. In fact, stoking intra-party factioning such as Cenk (and others) recommends has never proven to advance the overarching goals of a party. Of course, Cenk already knew that.

I am not obsessed with Cenk. I merely think he's a loud-mouthed fool and may point that out from time to time.

Regarding your last point... Yeah, I'm a loyal (though not necessarily "uncritical&quot Democrat...here posting on a discussion board called "Democratic Underground." Imagine that.

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Snicker. FSogol Jan 2012 #34

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