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pinboy3niner

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115. Best thing about your post: "furthur!" :)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:29 AM

Jul 2012

Ken Kesey is applauding in his grave.

I'm sure he'd also get a big kick out of your nostrum that if you don't want to die, "DO NOT GO TO JAIL."

It may be news to you, but someone who ends up in jail, for whatever reason, doesn't suddenly become sub-human.

I sympathise with your circumstances. But your mistake is allowing others to divide you from your brethren who also are suffering. The way things are today, you or I could easily be the ones confined behind those bars.

You got bail money? No? Then you may be confined, like the others, behind those bars--without ever having been convicted of a crime. And if you have health conditions, you're going to damn sure demand that the system attend to you while you're in its custody.

Is that so much to ask?

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Inmates cooked to death in Texas prisons [View all] 47of74 Jul 2012 OP

imo pepito Jul 2012 #1

So every inmate is a murderer? Avalux Jul 2012 #3

I think he was talking about the state of Texas preventing the inmates from dying. BlueJazz Jul 2012 #7

Thanks, I stand corrected. Avalux Jul 2012 #8

I agree, it is murder when the inmates die of heat exposure. SalviaBlue Jul 2012 #136

Welcome to DU demwing Jul 2012 #151

Damn Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #2

That's what we are now. begin_within Jul 2012 #33

+20,407 Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #41

Texas has always been a third world country maindawg Jul 2012 #143

Uhhh, what? RZM Aug 2012 #162

Texas may well be one already.... lastlib Jul 2012 #126

+1 redqueen Jul 2012 #138

Texas. Institutionalized murder. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #4

Get a grip cbrer Jul 2012 #5

You could also go outside and catch a breeze if you got too hot.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #10

You are quite the humanitarian... Earth_First Jul 2012 #14

You are postulating a right to air conditioning? cbrer Jul 2012 #17

I believe that you assume that assumption.... Earth_First Jul 2012 #19

Article said nothing cbrer Jul 2012 #24

You've done a superb job of outing yourself as an individual in support of classist bigotry... Earth_First Jul 2012 #26

People like that chervilant Jul 2012 #37

You and your buddies may believe that cbrer Jul 2012 #45

dude chill smoke a J or something snooper2 Jul 2012 #76

:) pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #86

I posted about this last year. It's not in the news much. Th1onein Jul 2012 #93

Well said. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #139

Many people have died without air conditioning (& heat). pacalo Jul 2012 #99

ok here's a fact booley Jul 2012 #118

How hot does it get in a jail cell in Texas during a heat wave? The Doctor. Jul 2012 #122

hey asshole! how many of those folks without AC are wards of the state? frylock Jul 2012 #134

how many deaths MrDiaz Jul 2012 #104

Great argument--others die from other causes, so why worry about these preventable deaths? pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #108

what is your solution MrDiaz Jul 2012 #110

Best thing about your post: "furthur!" :) pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #115

Bail money? MrDiaz Jul 2012 #116

So don't protest against anything, either Patiod Jul 2012 #121

May you find yourself in jail one day. EOTE Jul 2012 #124

I HAVE BEEN MrDiaz Jul 2012 #127

One day, and that was enough. EOTE Jul 2012 #128

well MrDiaz Jul 2012 #129

Actually, the prison system has been sued because they didn't prevent a rape that resulted in AIDS. Th1onein Jul 2012 #149

lol MrDiaz Aug 2012 #155

Not only were they sued; they LOST the lawsuit and had to pay up. Th1onein Aug 2012 #156

point taken MrDiaz Aug 2012 #157

If it takes a life it shouldn't take, then it is more important. Period. Th1onein Aug 2012 #164

So... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #28

Reason for death cbrer Jul 2012 #44

That's a whole lot of denial right there. Wow. Zalatix Jul 2012 #55

Still assuming I see cbrer Jul 2012 #60

C'mon, they were frail. Not the prison's fault. pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #61

Forcing conclusions gets you just as far cbrer Jul 2012 #63

The Prison Industrial complex now even has the help of amateur public relations experts. Zalatix Jul 2012 #65

"Unpaid" remains an open question. nt pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #66

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #71

"Loser"? I guess I'm getting to you pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #77

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #70

FYI.. namecalling is against the rules here. Zalatix Jul 2012 #82

No sweat, Z pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #84

And what facts have you brought to the "battle"? pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #83

Well done dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #91

+1 LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #114

Details demwing Jul 2012 #153

People are dying of heat stroke and the best you can come up with is "deal with it"? Seriously? Zalatix Jul 2012 #27

Seriously? You are assuming facts cbrer Jul 2012 #47

I am not ASSUMING anything. Zalatix Jul 2012 #53

Assuming cbrer Jul 2012 #56

So State Sen. John Whitmire is a liar and you know more than the activists who were actually there? Zalatix Jul 2012 #64

Facts please cbrer Jul 2012 #72

If a bunch of prisoners dead from heat stroke isn't a problem in your book then Zalatix Jul 2012 #80

The majority of the world isn't stuck inside tiny cell blocks with no airflow. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #88

I am certain that Professor Hawking would find your posts deeply offensive. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #142

Itl's cruel and unusual punishment demwing Jul 2012 #152

No one said anything about climate change. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #21

Just trying to clarify article. cbrer Jul 2012 #43

That was no attempt to "clarify" pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #46

I understand you must force definitions in order to make your point cbrer Jul 2012 #50

BS. No definitions are being 'forced.' pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #59

Riiiight cbrer Jul 2012 #62

The silliness is all yours--own it pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #75

you are obviously MrDiaz Jul 2012 #105

So you think it's okay to put prisoners with those kinds of health conditions at risk? pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #107

no not defending MrDiaz Jul 2012 #109

Who claimed AC is a right? No one here. pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #111

HEY! Let me tell you a little secret: Th1onein Jul 2012 #150

Half baked conclusions are better than fully baked inmates demwing Jul 2012 #154

They just have not come for us yet. BlueinOhio Jul 2012 #23

Well said. classof56 Jul 2012 #40

Kasiach BlueinOhio Jul 2012 #42

If by 'coddle our prisoners' you mean not killing them with heat stroke, Doremus Jul 2012 #25

Animation cute cbrer Jul 2012 #51

No more than you are seriously suggesting that the majority of people in the world are incarcerated. Doremus Jul 2012 #146

have no AC MrDiaz Jul 2012 #106

Does he have windows? JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #112

is your 73 year-old grandfather free to leave his cell? frylock Jul 2012 #135

um yea MrDiaz Jul 2012 #137

No, we shouldn't coddle. Iggo Jul 2012 #48

Assuming facts not in evidence. cbrer Jul 2012 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jul 2012 #67

Welcome to DU. Iggo Jul 2012 #68

Not sure how to take that cbrer Jul 2012 #73

I don't understand what facts you need. noamnety Jul 2012 #100

Windows, fans & fresh water. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #113

.. Stinky The Clown Jul 2012 #49

Infer is how you take something. Imply is how you mean something. pa28 Jul 2012 #57

'Preciate the red pen cbrer Jul 2012 #58

Eh. pa28 Jul 2012 #85

No such luck. :( But a good try, anyway. pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #92

wow. It's not about coddling. It's about NOT KILLING them. patrice Jul 2012 #79

You DO know that coddling and killing are the only two options here, right? annabanana Aug 2012 #163

We as a society can severely limit another's freedom by putting them behind bars in a small cell pacalo Jul 2012 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #94

I'll wager that no jury will hide you, nor will our Hosts ban you from this thread pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #97

Thanks. When I let 'er rip, that's usually a sign to me that I need to take a break. Been coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #98

After following Anaheim, no one can blame you for your mood pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #101

Looks like some gungeon people don't mind torture Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #117

I also noticed both of those with Free Republic-like opinions are gungeon dwellers Patiod Jul 2012 #123

jesus christ. did you live in a 8 x 8 concrete bloc too? did your parents force you to stay in HiPointDem Jul 2012 #95

How many poor and homeless people die from heat related illness? Puregonzo1188 Jul 2012 #132

"coddling" LWolf Jul 2012 #141

There's a DIFFERENCE. Th1onein Jul 2012 #148

You Weren't Old Or Infirm DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #158

You have thoroughly made an ass of yourself in this thread. morningfog Aug 2012 #159

OK. Call me a "bleeding heart liberal", but I think to keep prisoners in un-airconditioned cells Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #6

I did live in one of those places Panasonic Jul 2012 #22

Bleeding Heart BlueinOhio Jul 2012 #30

I'm with you Nye Auntie Bush Jul 2012 #34

Leavenworth is called The Hot House. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #9

"It is what it is" toddwv Jul 2012 #11

+1 n/t Earth_First Jul 2012 #15

+2. pacalo Jul 2012 #96

+3 pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #102

If they weren't being given water then I agree. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #145

thats a great point maindawg Jul 2012 #144

America has no business in any other country sorefeet Jul 2012 #12

There's no a/c? OMG. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #13

Or ventilation. Patiod Jul 2012 #119

WWJD? Glassunion Jul 2012 #130

Those with medical niceguy Jul 2012 #131

How do you get a body temp of 109 Patiod Aug 2012 #161

Sheriff Joe Arpaio keeps his inmates in a tent in Phoenix. panader0 Jul 2012 #16

The temps in Sheriff Joe's tents are reported to exceed 130 degrees in Summer pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #32

Should he be used as a standard of sound judgment? pacalo Jul 2012 #103

I spent 88 days in a Texas prison Panasonic Jul 2012 #18

I'm sorry for your ordeal. nt Auntie Bush Jul 2012 #35

Congratulations on getting out of there... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #38

Many of the heartless GOP officials in TX may end up in a much hotter place. libinnyandia Jul 2012 #20

That can't be too soon for me! Auntie Bush Jul 2012 #39

I'm sure there'd be plenty of money if we let go all those in jail for possession 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #29

rick perry rockingirl Jul 2012 #31

maybe OWS should take this on. We could take to the streets demanding air conditioning crazyjoe Jul 2012 #36

"The test of a democracy Smilo Jul 2012 #54

+1000 Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #69

Omg! sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #74

More corporate downsizing by government. aquart Jul 2012 #78

Death as a punishment for a prostitution conviction. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #81

They don't have enough money for the A.C. AND to make a profit. That's their problem. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #87

IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #140

I spent summers Sgent Jul 2012 #89

And there you have it - fans and open windows. Patiod Jul 2012 #120

crab mentality booley Jul 2012 #125

kick. Get some air conditioners and some solar panels to run them. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #133

I've never understood the mentality that says we have to treat convicted criminals like animals... markpkessinger Jul 2012 #147

Guys like Bush and Rick Perry... Hubert Flottz Aug 2012 #160