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Hassin Bin Sober

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67. In one of my Starbucks (near me but not one I frequent) they removed the seating to ....

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:00 PM

Apr 2018

.... avoid the issue of asking people to leave.

Here is a yelp discussion.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/starbucks-chicago-170

This review about sums it up:

Was really looking forward to the redux until I find they gutted it to remove seating. I have more problem with Lincoln Park trixies than I'll ever have problem with a homeless person catching some warmth. Way to go Douchebucks, way to go.

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If Starbucks manager called police and said two customers had just raped her [View all] EffieBlack Apr 2018 OP

What in the hell are you talking about? angstlessk Apr 2018 #1

She's talking about a VERY VALID point Stinky The Clown Apr 2018 #17

NOT a valid point, one is a felony, but sitting in a booth is not! angstlessk Apr 2018 #18

I would say dont waste your breath but I do it aLL The time Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #26

Absolutely...since when can one person send someone to jail when multiple people say Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #53

My husband and I were just talking about that iwillalwayswonderwhy Apr 2018 #2

Why was a white woman allowed to stay there, and not buy anything HipChick Apr 2018 #3

Because of ignorance and racism, of course iwillalwayswonderwhy Apr 2018 #11

If only for P.R. sake... lame54 Apr 2018 #14

UNCUFF? Why cuff them in the first place? angstlessk Apr 2018 #19

I agree, they should never have been cuffed iwillalwayswonderwhy Apr 2018 #34

It's not a police issue PERIOD MountCleaners Apr 2018 #22

Do we know what conversation occurred between the cops and the victims? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #4

Did the police confirm that they were indeed trespassing? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #7

In my experience, you get two warnings. One from the owner and then an ultimatum from the police. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #16

In my Starbucks no one pays attention MountCleaners Apr 2018 #24

In one of my Starbucks (near me but not one I frequent) they removed the seating to .... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #67

In my experience you don't get past the 911 operator. hunter Apr 2018 #38

Some establishments have a silent alarm crazycatlady Apr 2018 #50

I dont know what town of state you live in but a call here to non emergency ends up at 911 Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #66

I have to say, I am so sick of kissing Cops asses so as not to get tickets or what have you. I am a Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #55

Trespassing Corgigal Apr 2018 #5

I agree up to a point EffieBlack Apr 2018 #8

I read Corgigal Apr 2018 #9

They told the cops what they were doing there - waiting for a friend EffieBlack Apr 2018 #10

Depends on what the store owner wanted. Corgigal Apr 2018 #12

The police don't have to do what the store owner wants if they think no law was broken EffieBlack Apr 2018 #13

I don't know the laws Corgigal Apr 2018 #15

Once the cops are there the reasons are irrelevant and more suitable for civil courts Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #20

This is wrong EffieBlack Apr 2018 #21

It's not wrong, Corgigal Apr 2018 #37

What was the safety risk? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #39

No idea Corgigal Apr 2018 #41

It is wrong because thats not how it works EffieBlack Apr 2018 #76

What? Thats exactly what they do. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #69

Theyre required to respond, but they are not required to arrest anyone just because a store manager EffieBlack Apr 2018 #72

A person is trespassing any time the owner or responsible party tells them to leave and they refuse. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #74

In a private residence. Not in a public facility. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #78

Starbucks stores are private property. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #82

Not confused at all EffieBlack Apr 2018 #84

Ah no, Corgigal Apr 2018 #32

Ah yeah, thats exactly how it works. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #68

Im curious why the manager felt the need to call the police on these men EffieBlack Apr 2018 #73

Those are good questions. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #75

This is a chain of blame - the manager and cops are complicit with each other EffieBlack Apr 2018 #77

I once had police show up because I was waiting in a grocery store MountCleaners Apr 2018 #25

"police asked the men to leave three times but they refused" PoliticAverse Apr 2018 #79

Because the police chief, relying on what his officers told him, is an unimpeachable source EffieBlack Apr 2018 #80

Are witnesses claiming that police never asked the men to leave? n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2018 #81

And there you have it: Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #86

Arresting people is not their only duty EffieBlack Apr 2018 #87

Starbucks is a franchise...there is a manager...and people hang out buying little or nothing Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #57

"but they were released quickly" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #33

+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #36

Disgraceful and shows the cops are racist too. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #58

Your curious why they thought it rose to that level? HopeAgain Apr 2018 #27

Effie, normally, you're on point. Blue_true Apr 2018 #6

You surely don't mean to compare rape to loitering leftstreet Apr 2018 #23

you're reading it wrong. that's not how analogies work. unblock Apr 2018 #28

The police were obligated to assess the situation, if the two men OWNED the resteraunt everyone woul uponit7771 Apr 2018 #29

The may own it soon EffieBlack Apr 2018 #40

IKR ... Looks like the manager had a complaint of racism in the past if reporting in the other uponit7771 Apr 2018 #43

Yet, DUers jumped in to defend her EffieBlack Apr 2018 #56

Why am I not surprised. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author RhodeIslandOne Apr 2018 #30

This post is stupid. KWR65 Apr 2018 #31

Beyond melman Apr 2018 #45

No it is not. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #60

Does anyone know how long had they been waiting in the Starbucks. jalan48 Apr 2018 #35

This is not equivalent to the Starbucks arrest matter. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #42

You missed a critical pount EffieBlack Apr 2018 #44

I addressed it. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #46

law and justice are two different things radius777 Apr 2018 #71

You're not reading very carefully. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #83

They dont grant a license but they provide evidence of whether there actually is such a policy EffieBlack Apr 2018 #85

If you are asked to leave and you don't leave melman Apr 2018 #48

Apparently, they weren't asked to leave until the police arrived EffieBlack Apr 2018 #52

Really but what does it mean when only Black folks are asked to leave? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #61

It means you have a valid civil case fescuerescue Apr 2018 #89

The cops behaved badly as they always seem to do with POC..any white person would have been Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #90

Not if you own the place uponit7771 Apr 2018 #63

Huh? Big difference in severity of scenarios blake2012 Apr 2018 #47

No, I get it. Customers told the police that the two men had done nothing...so why handcuff Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #51

I agree the situation was as racist as shit and this kind of stuff happens all the damn blake2012 Apr 2018 #54

I am outraged at this sort of racism...it is persistent and hard to fight. My daughter is Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #62

Why, that would depend if the subject was a person of color or white of course. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #49

White DUer kicked out of Starbucks jberryhill Apr 2018 #64

Well, that settled it EffieBlack Apr 2018 #65

Many ways to see it. Blue_true Apr 2018 #70

Rape and Trespassing are very different ExciteBike66 Apr 2018 #88