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8. I Wouldn't Say John Kerry Was A Foregone Conclusion

Reply to blake2012 (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:45 PM

Apr 2018

As late as Christmas 2003, it was still a "foregone conclusion" that Howard Dean would be the nominee. It wasn't until a couple of months later when John Kerry shocked everyone and won Iowa that he became the presumptive nominee.

And by the way, I think the whole "people want an outsider who's not part of the Washington Insiders" wisdom is going to be turned on its head in 2020. We HAVE an outsider without ANY experience in office right now, and the people HATE it. This time around, they're going to be looking for someone who knows what the job entails and who can hit the ground running. They're going to be looking for stability; a steady hand. Someone who has a record of success.

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Our last three successful Dem presidential candidates had one thing in common [View all] blake2012 Apr 2018 OP

Hillary Clinton is a WINNER. She won the election. The conspiracy stole the Electoral College. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #1

I was in process of editing caveats in that regard blake2012 Apr 2018 #2

She was about to win the EC in a landslide when Comey stole the election and handed it to Trump. StevieM Apr 2018 #16

No. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #23

So did Al Gore until SCOTUS changed it... dajoki Apr 2018 #38

Six of the last seven presidents ran as outsiders marylandblue Apr 2018 #3

Yes. People want change other than when an incumbent is running blake2012 Apr 2018 #5

Biden, Warren, and probably now Sanders fall into the second. TDale313 Apr 2018 #4

Im thinking somebody like beto could be our dark horse candidate Tiggeroshii Apr 2018 #15

TAMMY DUCKWORTH!!! Squinch Apr 2018 #6

Very inspiring choice blake2012 Apr 2018 #7

I Wouldn't Say John Kerry Was A Foregone Conclusion ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2018 #8

December 2003 was a heady time for people who knew Howard DFW Apr 2018 #10

I was a Deaniac Cha Apr 2018 #20

I never met Kerry DFW Apr 2018 #21

Way Cool! Cha Apr 2018 #22

This was last October DFW Apr 2018 #25

Wonderful! Mahalo for that pic, DFW.. you Cha Apr 2018 #43

I Absolutely Loved Howard ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2018 #27

They all won after eight or more years of Republican rule. People wanted change. betsuni Apr 2018 #9

I think people will want some governing and political experiencebut not wizened veterans of DC blake2012 Apr 2018 #12

Do you know what that means? ecstatic Apr 2018 #11

Nothe opposition does that more than Dems blake2012 Apr 2018 #13

Here ya go leftstreet Apr 2018 #14

My First Choice PaulX2 Apr 2018 #19

I like this guy blake2012 Apr 2018 #31

Kamala Harris, Liberty Belle Apr 2018 #17

I like Tom Steyer. (eom) StevieM Apr 2018 #18

Clinton, Kerry, and Gore were successful Dem presidential candidates. milestogo Apr 2018 #24

EXACTLY. Ohiogal Apr 2018 #26

This. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #29

You Do Realize.......... ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2018 #30

I am a liberal/centrist Democrat blake2012 Apr 2018 #34

Obama was being talked about over four years before he ran. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #28

That may be. But few were discussing them as serious candidates blake2012 Apr 2018 #32

"That may be." NCTraveler Apr 2018 #37

One thing we tend to forget--the nation wasn't always in election mode in 1990's blake2012 Apr 2018 #39

If you are considering Carter a success, I cannot agree. He failed to strike a deal and get Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #33

He won and was in the White House blake2012 Apr 2018 #35

You have a point...he did win. He wasn't good at Washington politics. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #36

Was Obama better than Carter at Washington politics? oberliner Apr 2018 #41

Barack Obama gave the keynote speech at the 2004 DNC convention oberliner Apr 2018 #40

Radaryes. But as a bright, refreshing young politician that was a rising star blake2012 Apr 2018 #42

From CNN, November 2, 2006: "Poll: Obama now trails only Clinton on '08 list" oberliner Apr 2018 #44

Yep. He still heavily trailed presumptive nominee, Hillary at that point blake2012 Apr 2018 #45