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155. Pot, meet kettle... (nt)

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Duckworth proposes rule allowing babies on Senate floor [View all] mucifer Apr 2018 OP

I think a lot of accomodations need to occur for nursing mothers in the workplace but I just don't hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1

I don't really see a problem thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #2

that's the point... They hardly get anything done right now. Seriously, though... NO hlthe2b Apr 2018 #3

I just keep thinking during the run up to Iraq how Robert Byrd might have appreciated the company thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #25

I'd like to hope that as well, Volaris Apr 2018 #171

There have been worse than crying infants on the Senate floor ehrnst Apr 2018 #4

No... There are places children do not belong and that includes the "ADULT children" that the RW hlthe2b Apr 2018 #6

If a baby nursing can bring our democratic process to a halt ehrnst Apr 2018 #8

and you know this how? Sorry, (NOT SORRY) this is ridiculous. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #9

I've been in board meetings with a nursing mother, and it was a small conference room. ehrnst Apr 2018 #10

and how do you think that meeting would have progressed if the infant had cried all the way through. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #12

Why do you think that an infant would be left on the Senate floor crying? ehrnst Apr 2018 #14

A baby can't nurse and cry at the same time. It's physically impossible. pnwmom Apr 2018 #16

Clearly not many women are in this discussion.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #17

Oh, really? Give it a break. My premise from the first was accomodation. But others deserve same. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #29

If a Senator needs to leave the floor, they cannot vote during that time. ehrnst Apr 2018 #78

Nonsense. There is no reason she can not plan for that. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #79

Oh, so you think that they will want her pumping on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #106

Oh, yes, because that is the ONLY way it could work, right? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #122

Again.... leaving the Senate floor is the issue here. ehrnst Apr 2018 #178

Your premise was faulty because they're not offering accomodation. pnwmom Apr 2018 #85

Your premise is faulty because we are stating an ALTERNATIVE accomodation should be demanded hlthe2b Apr 2018 #93

Too late. She's due THIS MONTH. They're not somehow going to be able to create space pnwmom Apr 2018 #101

Bullshit. A room nearby can temporarily be repurposed. She wants a rule change--that should be hlthe2b Apr 2018 #105

What is best for the child is being in her mother's arms. The Senate would do just fine. pnwmom Apr 2018 #108

If she wants (and surely SHOULD) be able to continue as a Senator, she is going to need help hlthe2b Apr 2018 #112

Your "concern" is noted, but your "concern" indicates that Duckworth doesn't know what ehrnst Apr 2018 #144

Her second daughter. She likely understands an infants needs irisblue Apr 2018 #182

"unearned self-sanctimony" ehrnst Apr 2018 #189

Her baby, her choice. She knows what she needs better than anyone else. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #288

LOL pangaia Apr 2018 #150

Maybe I dreamed it, but I thought she'd given birth already. moriah Apr 2018 #287

LOL. Yes, she did! I knew the due date was in April but I'd missed the happy event! pnwmom Apr 2018 #289

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #107

Yes, there is. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #185

The point is, that it's off the Senate floor. ehrnst Apr 2018 #191

I work for the Senate. Yes, I understand. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #198

Then it should not be the huge problem that many on this thread seem to think it will be ehrnst Apr 2018 #206

It's against Senate rules to have a baby in there as well. The Senate Parliamentarian pnwmom Apr 2018 #226

The cloakroom is not wheelchair accessible, too. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #295

sounds like male designed rules to keep the silly womenfolk out of the workplace/off the floor BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #329

LOL pangaia Apr 2018 #149

The concern trolling here is astounding... ehrnst Apr 2018 #151

You have more patients than I. ))))) pangaia Apr 2018 #156

Funny How Little Things Have Changed When It Comes To Women Me. Apr 2018 #271

Your strawman is noted. It is your addition that the infant was nursing. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #20

Um.... that's what prompted the rule. ehrnst Apr 2018 #35

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers hlthe2b Apr 2018 #48

So that parents would not have to leave the floor during votes when there is ehrnst Apr 2018 #74

Ever notice that when one can't see the logic in comments of some it's a "strawman"? George II Apr 2018 #168

You haven't kept up with the issue. Tammy Duckworth has been talking about the problem pnwmom Apr 2018 #111

Bullshit. I have repeaatedly posted and your need to go back to all previous posts to make a point hlthe2b Apr 2018 #115

Where did you discuss the fact that no accommodation was made for Kristin Gillibrand? pnwmom Apr 2018 #117

aww, another strawman. Anything else you want to introduce into the discussion. Forget it hlthe2b Apr 2018 #121

But you'll be back the minute someone posts a reply. ehrnst Apr 2018 #123

LOL #2 I am almost enjoying reading this little discussion... pangaia Apr 2018 #152

It's not a straw man. It's directly relevant. She tried and failed to get accomodation. pnwmom Apr 2018 #127

Indeed. I think they had the same reaction when women wanted a decent restroom nearby. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #179

The rule she is asking for appears to be more than just nursing Egnever Apr 2018 #213

Do you know how long a baby nurses? ehrnst Apr 2018 #223

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers MichMan Apr 2018 #22

Yes, and that will prohibit any nursing mother from being able to do her job.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #37

Everyone here has advocated accommodation. so your posts are becoming incresibly disingenuous hlthe2b Apr 2018 #52

What's "incresibly disingenuous" is the assumption that ehrnst Apr 2018 #70

The Senate hasn't offered any accommodation of any sort, other than the bathroom. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #88

and we are saying that should be demanded. Just as women's bathrooms had to be constructed. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #91

That didn't happen until 2013. ehrnst Apr 2018 #98

She is wanting an accomodation rule passed now. So she should demand the RIGHT accomodation.. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #103

She is. And you're saying that she's a bad mother for wanting to bring an infant on the Senate floor ehrnst Apr 2018 #126

Your claiming I said something I NEVER said, Don't believe (that she is a bad mother) hlthe2b Apr 2018 #130

Actually, yes, you did. ehrnst Apr 2018 #139

It's common sense that there won't be a gaggle xmas74 Apr 2018 #30

I know - the slippery slope arguments going on here are amazing. And apparently the Senate floor is ehrnst Apr 2018 #102

Or CITI FIELD !!!! pangaia Apr 2018 #153

Supermarket, doctors office xmas74 Apr 2018 #272

Maybe that's the fear. It will spread like a horrible virus. If babies can be nursed in the SENATE pnwmom Apr 2018 #283

I remember pulling over at a roadside park xmas74 Apr 2018 #284

Omg. The nerve of some people! And I bet the complainer was a pro-lifer. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #285

A truck driving couple. xmas74 Apr 2018 #286

How do you think New Zealand handles it without descending into chaos? ehrnst Apr 2018 #299

you know what I find sorry? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #328

Who talked about nursing??? She wants to bring the baby inside, nursing or not. DetlefK Apr 2018 #27

Tammy Duckworth did. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #71

It's not in the OP. DetlefK Apr 2018 #76

Here: ehrnst Apr 2018 #90

Doesn't say a thing about nursing Egnever Apr 2018 #214

You think that she's talking about diaper changes? ehrnst Apr 2018 #222

Apparently the Senate is more progressive than you are on the topic ehrnst Apr 2018 #296

"nursing is ridiculous as well." Well, 100 Senators disagree with you, even the non-progressives pnwmom Apr 2018 #330

I bet you have never nursed a baby in your life. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #13

There are very many here splaining about how noisy an infant is while nursing ehrnst Apr 2018 #19

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers hlthe2b Apr 2018 #49

From the OP: ehrnst Apr 2018 #80

I care about the child's welfare. They deserve better than a chaotic Senate floor hlthe2b Apr 2018 #82

So you are saying that Duckworth is an irresponsible parent? ehrnst Apr 2018 #92

I'm saying she is demanding the WRONG accommodation. There needs to be a PERMANENT hlthe2b Apr 2018 #99

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #110

I nursed four children...they don't cry while nursing. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #72

Neither did my three. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #114

Or my two.... Heartstrings Apr 2018 #158

Strawman again. and you don't know a damned thing about my childbearing history hlthe2b Apr 2018 #24

I know you have never nursed a single baby, because by now you would have said pnwmom Apr 2018 #36

I do not post my private details. And no, I don't owe you that information at all. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #39

No one who has ever successfully nursed a baby would have the objections you have. pnwmom Apr 2018 #43

No one who is rational would argue against the infant being PROTECTED, ACCOMDATED in such a way hlthe2b Apr 2018 #45

So the Senate floor is dangerous for an infant? ehrnst Apr 2018 #47

Any baby who has been in a house with a TV and older siblings has been through worse. pnwmom Apr 2018 #50

I care about the infants wellfare and believe they will do fine just off the Senate floor protected hlthe2b Apr 2018 #53

What dangers do "I want to subject them to," exactly? ehrnst Apr 2018 #56

Off the Senate floor they will also be exposed to the frightful dangers of electric lighting, pnwmom Apr 2018 #57

I SAID in a nursing/infant room off the Senate Floor so that the Mother can vote and quickly return hlthe2b Apr 2018 #59

You know how long it took to get adequate womens' bathrooms at the Senate? ehrnst Apr 2018 #61

God knows we don't allow babies on the set of a television show, or in a mall ehrnst Apr 2018 #60

Babies don't nee quiet ...they need stimulation. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #75

Babies are pretty resilient. Chemisse Apr 2018 #97

Your comments on nursing infants indicate a gap in your knowledge in that area. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #66

No, it indicates a disingenous effort on your part to boister arguments. Despicable tactic that is hlthe2b Apr 2018 #84

My knowlege of what you have written in your posts is complete. ehrnst Apr 2018 #87

Can you? It doesn't seem so. But I can be sympathetic to your plight. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #137

What plight? ehrnst Apr 2018 #140

And there's the self-inflicted irony of the whole damned week. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #163

Talk about a straw man.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #180

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #183

Again, that isn't going to work. You don't know a GD thing about me or anyone else and hlthe2b Apr 2018 #55

Your comments indicate some lack of knowledge on the subject. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #64

You don't know a thing about me or anyone else. Your self-proclaimed "expertise" is no more hlthe2b Apr 2018 #69

I know what you have posted here. And it indicates a lack of understanding of nursing babies. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #96

I know what YOU have posted which is disingenous as hell hlthe2b Apr 2018 #133

In what way? ehrnst Apr 2018 #136

That was my first thought.. Cha Apr 2018 #21

Furthermore, the pro lifers always forget about babies once born flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #170

Great point, fg! Cha Apr 2018 #172

I agree. The workplace should be more family friendly and mothers should be given opportunities smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #7

Nursing babies aren't crying. They eat, and then they sleep. pnwmom Apr 2018 #11

they don't sleep in a noisy, brightly lit, camera filled, disruptive room. They cry. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #15

Not true. A nursing baby will nurse anywhere. If it's ever a problem, Duckworth pnwmom Apr 2018 #28

You introduced the nursing aspect. That was NOT the premise hlthe2b Apr 2018 #32

From the OP: ehrnst Apr 2018 #44

Duckworth has made it the issue. She's written op-eds about nursing in the Senate. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #58

I SAID in a nursing/infant room off the Senate Floor so that the Mother can vote and quickly return hlthe2b Apr 2018 #63

There is no such place. They're saying she should do it in the germy, smelly, bathroom. nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #73

and I am saying REPEATEDLY, that they need to ACCOMMODATE by providing one. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #89

Every single day, infants happily nurse in all sorts of locations -- like shopping malls, pnwmom Apr 2018 #94

"If we cared about the infant" we wouldn't want it on the Senate floor..... ehrnst Apr 2018 #113

Yes, despite your typo, I DO indeed think she is capable of caring for her infant hlthe2b Apr 2018 #118

No, you talked about how she is being an irresponsible parent ehrnst Apr 2018 #146

"Protective?" From what? ehrnst Apr 2018 #86

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers Your strawman. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #34

Duckworth has written about it. And speaking of dangerous (and disgusting) places, the option pnwmom Apr 2018 #62

Says the person who thinks the Senate is a dangerous place for an infant. ehrnst Apr 2018 #116

LOL.n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #120

Yes, they do. ehrnst Apr 2018 #40

You dont' know a GD thing about me or anyone else here. Your opinions matter no more than mine hlthe2b Apr 2018 #46

Care of infants, and "what is dangerous" for them isn't a matter of opinion. ehrnst Apr 2018 #119

Your opinion is just one or many and counts no more than anyone elses. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #125

No - you don't trust Tammy Duckworth's opinion if the Senate floor is "safe" for her child ehrnst Apr 2018 #129

I disagree with her specific accommodation, not that she should demand accommodation. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #131

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #142

That's actually not correct. Chemisse Apr 2018 #104

The child is giving up rights to a protective environment. A nearby repurposed office hlthe2b Apr 2018 #109

Where is this idea coming from? Do you not understand that nursing mothers routinely pnwmom Apr 2018 #124

DO YOU not understand what is best for both mother and infant, now and future? Apparently not hlthe2b Apr 2018 #128

DO YOU know better than Tammy Duckworth about how safe the Senate floor is for her infant? ehrnst Apr 2018 #132

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #135

Straw man. When did I say you were male? ehrnst Apr 2018 #154

that's nonsense Egnever Apr 2018 #211

Oh, you think that they're going to be just fine with pumping on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #224

In what way is anyone inconvenienced by a person putting Squinch Apr 2018 #320

Omg - you are so funny! Chemisse Apr 2018 #234

"The child is giving up rights to a protective environment" ?? mcar Apr 2018 #256

That's very true. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #193

What if the baby decides that a huge hall full of loud people makes it cry? DetlefK Apr 2018 #18

Then the mother can hand the baby over to a babysitter to take it out. But a nipple pnwmom Apr 2018 #83

You think that she wants to park a crib on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #301

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers MichMan Apr 2018 #26

But Duckworth has made it clear that this is about nursing. However, pnwmom Apr 2018 #31

Yes, to overturn the ban, not set up a nursery on the Senate floor. ehrnst Apr 2018 #312

I disagree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #67

Fine.. I applaud you for not trying to inflate your own opinion by claiming I or others have no hlthe2b Apr 2018 #77

I have nursed at the mall and only once was I asked to leave. I always was very discreet. I refused Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #95

Pot, meet kettle... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #155

"Those disrputive crying babies." pangaia Apr 2018 #145

I don't think it should be allowed, since it would interfere with the function of the Senate... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #147

I've been in board meetings with a nursing mother, and it was a small conference room. ehrnst Apr 2018 #148

Oh, I forgot that babies don't cry. My memories of being in theaters & church w/crying babies must Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #280

Were those babies nursing in church? ehrnst Apr 2018 #293

What working women do.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #338

You do need to pump on a regular basis during work hours. ehrnst Apr 2018 #339

Luckily for her and her baby, 100% of the Senate disagrees. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #290

Inasmuch as the Senate has existed for about 240 years (100 members for the last 58 years).... George II Apr 2018 #188

Crying Babies? Mitch McConnell has been allowed on the Seante floor for years. FSogol Apr 2018 #204

How come Iceland's parliament manages just fine with nursing babies mainer Apr 2018 #250

Thanks! Great point! nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #291

Sorry, but No. DetlefK Apr 2018 #5

Babies are in many workplaces. They don't belong on factory floors or dangerous places. pnwmom Apr 2018 #33

THAT was the accomodation I recommended. NO. they do not belong on factory floors or dangerous hlthe2b Apr 2018 #38

The Senate floor is not full of bright lights, loud noises, and disruption. 95% of the time, pnwmom Apr 2018 #41

So you think that the Senate can work in noisy disruptive environs ehrnst Apr 2018 #42

Offices Yes. But not places where they inconvenient people trying to do their jobs. DetlefK Apr 2018 #51

How is a nursing baby going to keep them from doing their job? ehrnst Apr 2018 #138

They will hear it. DetlefK Apr 2018 #160

Babies fall asleep after nursing. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #162

I never knew that you can just turn them off and on again. DetlefK Apr 2018 #166

You are confused on what I was saying. ehrnst Apr 2018 #174

Your first-hand experience with childbirth issues is a font of knowledge Tarc Apr 2018 #255

Easy. You rub their cheek with a nipple. They reflexively turn toward it with an open mouth, pnwmom Apr 2018 #326

Maybe we should ban babies from all public places flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #173

Apparently noisy public places are suddenly unsafe for babies, who can't nurse there... ehrnst Apr 2018 #176

Lol, or when teachers want fair pay flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #184

Yep- suddenly it's "those poor, poor children!!" ehrnst Apr 2018 #186

And failing to renew CHIP. As a bargaining tool. flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #195

Breastfed babies nurse off and on. They fall asleep after breastfeeding and if they're hungry again pnwmom Apr 2018 #325

Offices, no. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #164

The presence of women used to be considered disruptive in offices. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #177

Except the presence of babies is *actually* disruptive. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #208

Babies can't cry while they are nursing. ehrnst Apr 2018 #209

what a dumb comment Egnever Apr 2018 #215

What a dumb comeback ehrnst Apr 2018 #240

People don't normally nurse their babies 8 hours a day. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #219

Exactly. The wheels of state will not come to a grinding halt if a baby nurses every few hours ehrnst Apr 2018 #241

No. Not "exactly". Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #249

Well, she's trying to get the conversation started for more workplaces where it is possible ehrnst Apr 2018 #294

How does the government of New Zealand ever get anything done? ehrnst Apr 2018 #300

Well, they're not really civilized over there. Not like us. Mariana Apr 2018 #331

lolz obamanut2012 Apr 2018 #167

In what way will a nursing baby once every few hours "inconvenience" others on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #242

Someone on the senate floor Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #23

When people bring their children to my workplace, its disruptive. milestogo Apr 2018 #54

In what way? ehrnst Apr 2018 #246

Noise and distraction milestogo Apr 2018 #274

So it's a situation where there are cubicles. ehrnst Apr 2018 #275

Many people at my company are allowed to work from home. milestogo Apr 2018 #278

I thought you said that people are bringing kids in to the office and are disruptive ehrnst Apr 2018 #302

Oopsie. nt Mariana Apr 2018 #332

Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. The majority only likes babies in utero. Vinca Apr 2018 #65

While reading the comments above Heartstrings Apr 2018 #165

Yeah, I can hear that too. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #169

After they tell her that "they are only concerned with what is best for the baby and mother" ehrnst Apr 2018 #247

Tammy Duckworth may have to breastfeed in a BATHROOM off the Senate floor, pnwmom Apr 2018 #68

Does she not have an office? Tipperary Apr 2018 #134

Her office is in the Hart Senate Office Building. Ilsa Apr 2018 #157

There is a place like that off of Statuary Hall Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #190

Is it comfortable? A quiet room with soft chairs, maybe Ilsa Apr 2018 #192

Theres no rocker... Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #196

Cool! Thanks! nt Ilsa Apr 2018 #199

Can she vote from there? ehrnst Apr 2018 #248

Go fight someone else. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #279

Thanks, and I agree. I was just horrified to think she would be forced to use a bathroom. Tipperary Apr 2018 #202

They already allow babies on the senate floor unblock Apr 2018 #81

Oh my lord this thread is fucking hilarious. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #100

Need to think long-term about this one TheRealNorth Apr 2018 #141

Which will only serve.... thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #143

No, just make the rule Nursing Mothers period flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #181

that is not what is being proposed I don't think Egnever Apr 2018 #218

+1 sandensea Apr 2018 #221

I think a nursing room should be installed in the Capitol Building. Ilsa Apr 2018 #159

Careful, That's what I'm promoting and I was excoriated & accused of "mansplaining"tho I'm FEMALE! hlthe2b Apr 2018 #220

That would be great - there are way more female employees in the Senate than just Senators. ehrnst Apr 2018 #304

That's an excellent idea, but it wouldn't solve Sen. Duckworth's situation. Mariana Apr 2018 #333

I am not sure we want to let this happen dsc Apr 2018 #161

LOL leftstreet Apr 2018 #194

Has anyone been or worked in a child care facility lately? Heartstrings Apr 2018 #175

minngal marieo1 Apr 2018 #187

What about comfort animals? Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #197

What. The. Actual. Fuck. flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #201

Everything I post is sarcasm. Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #205

Once babies are officially allowed on the floor, it will be appropriate... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #200

How card is it to just bring in some sort of opaque screen or something and a nice small couch Afromania Apr 2018 #203

Or better yet how hard is it to have the baby wait for the few minutes it takes to vote. Egnever Apr 2018 #216

Some of congress is already comprised of infants, so should be fine. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2018 #207

Fuck that Egnever Apr 2018 #210

Yes, the work of Men will not wait or be paused for mere childcare. ehrnst Apr 2018 #225

They can hold the vote Egnever Apr 2018 #227

One more person who has obviously never successfully breastfed a baby. nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #230

ahaha Egnever Apr 2018 #233

Owning a breast pump is not mark of any special knowledge of breastfeeding. pnwmom Apr 2018 #235

Good for you! Egnever Apr 2018 #238

So now you don't think that they should hold the vote. ehrnst Apr 2018 #239

no not at all Egnever Apr 2018 #243

+1. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #244

From what I understand, they don't hold the vote for anybody. ehrnst Apr 2018 #232

Women find children irritating, too. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #237

The arrogance and presumption of adults who forget that babies are human -- pnwmom Apr 2018 #245

I don't enjoy being around babies because I have forgotten babies are human? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #253

Your enjoyment or non-enjoyment is beside the point. This is about a woman Senator's pnwmom Apr 2018 #254

No, much of the discussion here is broader than one woman in the Senate. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #257

The OP is about Duckworth's attempt to bring in her nursing baby and not exclude herself pnwmom Apr 2018 #258

I understand what the OP is about. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #264

You mean like in New Zealand? ehrnst Apr 2018 #305

No, I don't mean like any legislature anywhere. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #306

The New Zealand parlaiment is a workplace. ehrnst Apr 2018 #307

Fallacy of composition. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #309

So what were you talking about here? ehrnst Apr 2018 #310

It's pretty straightforward. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #313

When did I say that "people should be bringing their infants to the workplace?" ehrnst Apr 2018 #315

Right here: Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #317

No, that is not about babies, that's about women. ehrnst Apr 2018 #318

Yes, very much so. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #319

you, calling babies larvae is is absolutely a method of dehumanizing? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #335

Fuck the sexist attitude of those in the Senate who would stop her. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #228

it's not sexist to say babies don't belong on the senate floor. Egnever Apr 2018 #229

Nursing babies belong in any non-dangerous public place that mothers belong in. pnwmom Apr 2018 #231

no sorry they don't Egnever Apr 2018 #236

Well, other civilized countries manage. ehrnst Apr 2018 #308

It's just behind other countries, in terms of what is done there to accomodate families ehrnst Apr 2018 #311

I really can't understand what everyone's (or some) problem is with this, they're losing the context George II Apr 2018 #259

I know. It's so overblown. I can't figure out why some people are so threatened by this. pnwmom Apr 2018 #260

I just looked it up: George II Apr 2018 #263

The topic of breastfeeding always brings out the knuckle-draggers here. Squinch Apr 2018 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author Egnever Apr 2018 #212

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #217

I knew this thread was gonna be lively mokawanis Apr 2018 #251

What next? Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #252

You're seriously going to compare the Senate chamber to an operating room? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #261

Apparently, Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #262

Were you joking? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #265

Admittedly exaggerating Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #267

Friends here disagree all the time. pnwmom Apr 2018 #268

I forget a lot of stuff these days! Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #269

Sometimes that's a handy feature. pnwmom Apr 2018 #270

That's some slippery slope there.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #303

Yes! "Breast feeding!!! Run away! Run away!" Squinch Apr 2018 #314

OK, kids. It's essentially saying that a Senator with a child under one can bring that child Squinch Apr 2018 #266

What about grandchildren? MichMan Apr 2018 #273

What about them? If some guy wants to carry his 6 month old grandchild onto the senate Squinch Apr 2018 #276

Have you seen the crazy shit republicans have done in the last decade? Egnever Apr 2018 #292

Yes, we do understand some men's fear of breast feeding, Squinch Apr 2018 #298

No you don't understand a thing Egnever Apr 2018 #321

Poor dears. So troubled by the presence of infants. Squinch Apr 2018 #323

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #324

The reply to my reply must have been a doozie! And I didn't even get to see it! Squinch Apr 2018 #336

There can't be many, most Senators are over 60 years old. George II Apr 2018 #282

Didn't see if anyone posted it here, but the Senate approved the rule change unanimously: George II Apr 2018 #281

And she wins! Apparently the GOP led Senate is more progressive on this ehrnst Apr 2018 #297

Wow! The Senate Republicans see reason for once mcar Apr 2018 #316

Inviting someone to make the 50th recommendation. nt LAS14 Apr 2018 #322

They let one give the SOTU Address, FFS. n/t Orsino Apr 2018 #327

If a senator in Austalia can breastfeed while addressing parliament in 2017, and... haele Apr 2018 #334

I think it's about the boobies. Makes 'em nutty. Squinch Apr 2018 #337