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Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:26 AM

Apr 2018

Women are in the workplace, and men need to grow the fuck up.

This implies that the presence of women in the workplace is reasonably entailed by the presence of infants.

I apologize if that's not what you meant, but that is how it came across.

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Duckworth proposes rule allowing babies on Senate floor [View all] mucifer Apr 2018 OP

I think a lot of accomodations need to occur for nursing mothers in the workplace but I just don't hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1

I don't really see a problem thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #2

that's the point... They hardly get anything done right now. Seriously, though... NO hlthe2b Apr 2018 #3

I just keep thinking during the run up to Iraq how Robert Byrd might have appreciated the company thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #25

I'd like to hope that as well, Volaris Apr 2018 #171

There have been worse than crying infants on the Senate floor ehrnst Apr 2018 #4

No... There are places children do not belong and that includes the "ADULT children" that the RW hlthe2b Apr 2018 #6

If a baby nursing can bring our democratic process to a halt ehrnst Apr 2018 #8

and you know this how? Sorry, (NOT SORRY) this is ridiculous. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #9

I've been in board meetings with a nursing mother, and it was a small conference room. ehrnst Apr 2018 #10

and how do you think that meeting would have progressed if the infant had cried all the way through. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #12

Why do you think that an infant would be left on the Senate floor crying? ehrnst Apr 2018 #14

A baby can't nurse and cry at the same time. It's physically impossible. pnwmom Apr 2018 #16

Clearly not many women are in this discussion.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #17

Oh, really? Give it a break. My premise from the first was accomodation. But others deserve same. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #29

If a Senator needs to leave the floor, they cannot vote during that time. ehrnst Apr 2018 #78

Nonsense. There is no reason she can not plan for that. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #79

Oh, so you think that they will want her pumping on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #106

Oh, yes, because that is the ONLY way it could work, right? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #122

Again.... leaving the Senate floor is the issue here. ehrnst Apr 2018 #178

Your premise was faulty because they're not offering accomodation. pnwmom Apr 2018 #85

Your premise is faulty because we are stating an ALTERNATIVE accomodation should be demanded hlthe2b Apr 2018 #93

Too late. She's due THIS MONTH. They're not somehow going to be able to create space pnwmom Apr 2018 #101

Bullshit. A room nearby can temporarily be repurposed. She wants a rule change--that should be hlthe2b Apr 2018 #105

What is best for the child is being in her mother's arms. The Senate would do just fine. pnwmom Apr 2018 #108

If she wants (and surely SHOULD) be able to continue as a Senator, she is going to need help hlthe2b Apr 2018 #112

Your "concern" is noted, but your "concern" indicates that Duckworth doesn't know what ehrnst Apr 2018 #144

Her second daughter. She likely understands an infants needs irisblue Apr 2018 #182

"unearned self-sanctimony" ehrnst Apr 2018 #189

Her baby, her choice. She knows what she needs better than anyone else. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #288

LOL pangaia Apr 2018 #150

Maybe I dreamed it, but I thought she'd given birth already. moriah Apr 2018 #287

LOL. Yes, she did! I knew the due date was in April but I'd missed the happy event! pnwmom Apr 2018 #289

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #107

Yes, there is. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #185

The point is, that it's off the Senate floor. ehrnst Apr 2018 #191

I work for the Senate. Yes, I understand. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #198

Then it should not be the huge problem that many on this thread seem to think it will be ehrnst Apr 2018 #206

It's against Senate rules to have a baby in there as well. The Senate Parliamentarian pnwmom Apr 2018 #226

The cloakroom is not wheelchair accessible, too. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #295

sounds like male designed rules to keep the silly womenfolk out of the workplace/off the floor BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #329

LOL pangaia Apr 2018 #149

The concern trolling here is astounding... ehrnst Apr 2018 #151

You have more patients than I. ))))) pangaia Apr 2018 #156

Funny How Little Things Have Changed When It Comes To Women Me. Apr 2018 #271

Your strawman is noted. It is your addition that the infant was nursing. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #20

Um.... that's what prompted the rule. ehrnst Apr 2018 #35

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers hlthe2b Apr 2018 #48

So that parents would not have to leave the floor during votes when there is ehrnst Apr 2018 #74

Ever notice that when one can't see the logic in comments of some it's a "strawman"? George II Apr 2018 #168

You haven't kept up with the issue. Tammy Duckworth has been talking about the problem pnwmom Apr 2018 #111

Bullshit. I have repeaatedly posted and your need to go back to all previous posts to make a point hlthe2b Apr 2018 #115

Where did you discuss the fact that no accommodation was made for Kristin Gillibrand? pnwmom Apr 2018 #117

aww, another strawman. Anything else you want to introduce into the discussion. Forget it hlthe2b Apr 2018 #121

But you'll be back the minute someone posts a reply. ehrnst Apr 2018 #123

LOL #2 I am almost enjoying reading this little discussion... pangaia Apr 2018 #152

It's not a straw man. It's directly relevant. She tried and failed to get accomodation. pnwmom Apr 2018 #127

Indeed. I think they had the same reaction when women wanted a decent restroom nearby. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #179

The rule she is asking for appears to be more than just nursing Egnever Apr 2018 #213

Do you know how long a baby nurses? ehrnst Apr 2018 #223

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers MichMan Apr 2018 #22

Yes, and that will prohibit any nursing mother from being able to do her job.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #37

Everyone here has advocated accommodation. so your posts are becoming incresibly disingenuous hlthe2b Apr 2018 #52

What's "incresibly disingenuous" is the assumption that ehrnst Apr 2018 #70

The Senate hasn't offered any accommodation of any sort, other than the bathroom. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #88

and we are saying that should be demanded. Just as women's bathrooms had to be constructed. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #91

That didn't happen until 2013. ehrnst Apr 2018 #98

She is wanting an accomodation rule passed now. So she should demand the RIGHT accomodation.. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #103

She is. And you're saying that she's a bad mother for wanting to bring an infant on the Senate floor ehrnst Apr 2018 #126

Your claiming I said something I NEVER said, Don't believe (that she is a bad mother) hlthe2b Apr 2018 #130

Actually, yes, you did. ehrnst Apr 2018 #139

It's common sense that there won't be a gaggle xmas74 Apr 2018 #30

I know - the slippery slope arguments going on here are amazing. And apparently the Senate floor is ehrnst Apr 2018 #102

Or CITI FIELD !!!! pangaia Apr 2018 #153

Supermarket, doctors office xmas74 Apr 2018 #272

Maybe that's the fear. It will spread like a horrible virus. If babies can be nursed in the SENATE pnwmom Apr 2018 #283

I remember pulling over at a roadside park xmas74 Apr 2018 #284

Omg. The nerve of some people! And I bet the complainer was a pro-lifer. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #285

A truck driving couple. xmas74 Apr 2018 #286

How do you think New Zealand handles it without descending into chaos? ehrnst Apr 2018 #299

you know what I find sorry? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #328

Who talked about nursing??? She wants to bring the baby inside, nursing or not. DetlefK Apr 2018 #27

Tammy Duckworth did. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #71

It's not in the OP. DetlefK Apr 2018 #76

Here: ehrnst Apr 2018 #90

Doesn't say a thing about nursing Egnever Apr 2018 #214

You think that she's talking about diaper changes? ehrnst Apr 2018 #222

Apparently the Senate is more progressive than you are on the topic ehrnst Apr 2018 #296

"nursing is ridiculous as well." Well, 100 Senators disagree with you, even the non-progressives pnwmom Apr 2018 #330

I bet you have never nursed a baby in your life. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #13

There are very many here splaining about how noisy an infant is while nursing ehrnst Apr 2018 #19

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers hlthe2b Apr 2018 #49

From the OP: ehrnst Apr 2018 #80

I care about the child's welfare. They deserve better than a chaotic Senate floor hlthe2b Apr 2018 #82

So you are saying that Duckworth is an irresponsible parent? ehrnst Apr 2018 #92

I'm saying she is demanding the WRONG accommodation. There needs to be a PERMANENT hlthe2b Apr 2018 #99

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #110

I nursed four children...they don't cry while nursing. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #72

Neither did my three. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #114

Or my two.... Heartstrings Apr 2018 #158

Strawman again. and you don't know a damned thing about my childbearing history hlthe2b Apr 2018 #24

I know you have never nursed a single baby, because by now you would have said pnwmom Apr 2018 #36

I do not post my private details. And no, I don't owe you that information at all. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #39

No one who has ever successfully nursed a baby would have the objections you have. pnwmom Apr 2018 #43

No one who is rational would argue against the infant being PROTECTED, ACCOMDATED in such a way hlthe2b Apr 2018 #45

So the Senate floor is dangerous for an infant? ehrnst Apr 2018 #47

Any baby who has been in a house with a TV and older siblings has been through worse. pnwmom Apr 2018 #50

I care about the infants wellfare and believe they will do fine just off the Senate floor protected hlthe2b Apr 2018 #53

What dangers do "I want to subject them to," exactly? ehrnst Apr 2018 #56

Off the Senate floor they will also be exposed to the frightful dangers of electric lighting, pnwmom Apr 2018 #57

I SAID in a nursing/infant room off the Senate Floor so that the Mother can vote and quickly return hlthe2b Apr 2018 #59

You know how long it took to get adequate womens' bathrooms at the Senate? ehrnst Apr 2018 #61

God knows we don't allow babies on the set of a television show, or in a mall ehrnst Apr 2018 #60

Babies don't nee quiet ...they need stimulation. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #75

Babies are pretty resilient. Chemisse Apr 2018 #97

Your comments on nursing infants indicate a gap in your knowledge in that area. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #66

No, it indicates a disingenous effort on your part to boister arguments. Despicable tactic that is hlthe2b Apr 2018 #84

My knowlege of what you have written in your posts is complete. ehrnst Apr 2018 #87

Can you? It doesn't seem so. But I can be sympathetic to your plight. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #137

What plight? ehrnst Apr 2018 #140

And there's the self-inflicted irony of the whole damned week. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #163

Talk about a straw man.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #180

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #183

Again, that isn't going to work. You don't know a GD thing about me or anyone else and hlthe2b Apr 2018 #55

Your comments indicate some lack of knowledge on the subject. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #64

You don't know a thing about me or anyone else. Your self-proclaimed "expertise" is no more hlthe2b Apr 2018 #69

I know what you have posted here. And it indicates a lack of understanding of nursing babies. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #96

I know what YOU have posted which is disingenous as hell hlthe2b Apr 2018 #133

In what way? ehrnst Apr 2018 #136

That was my first thought.. Cha Apr 2018 #21

Furthermore, the pro lifers always forget about babies once born flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #170

Great point, fg! Cha Apr 2018 #172

I agree. The workplace should be more family friendly and mothers should be given opportunities smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #7

Nursing babies aren't crying. They eat, and then they sleep. pnwmom Apr 2018 #11

they don't sleep in a noisy, brightly lit, camera filled, disruptive room. They cry. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #15

Not true. A nursing baby will nurse anywhere. If it's ever a problem, Duckworth pnwmom Apr 2018 #28

You introduced the nursing aspect. That was NOT the premise hlthe2b Apr 2018 #32

From the OP: ehrnst Apr 2018 #44

Duckworth has made it the issue. She's written op-eds about nursing in the Senate. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #58

I SAID in a nursing/infant room off the Senate Floor so that the Mother can vote and quickly return hlthe2b Apr 2018 #63

There is no such place. They're saying she should do it in the germy, smelly, bathroom. nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #73

and I am saying REPEATEDLY, that they need to ACCOMMODATE by providing one. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #89

Every single day, infants happily nurse in all sorts of locations -- like shopping malls, pnwmom Apr 2018 #94

"If we cared about the infant" we wouldn't want it on the Senate floor..... ehrnst Apr 2018 #113

Yes, despite your typo, I DO indeed think she is capable of caring for her infant hlthe2b Apr 2018 #118

No, you talked about how she is being an irresponsible parent ehrnst Apr 2018 #146

"Protective?" From what? ehrnst Apr 2018 #86

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers Your strawman. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #34

Duckworth has written about it. And speaking of dangerous (and disgusting) places, the option pnwmom Apr 2018 #62

Says the person who thinks the Senate is a dangerous place for an infant. ehrnst Apr 2018 #116

LOL.n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #120

Yes, they do. ehrnst Apr 2018 #40

You dont' know a GD thing about me or anyone else here. Your opinions matter no more than mine hlthe2b Apr 2018 #46

Care of infants, and "what is dangerous" for them isn't a matter of opinion. ehrnst Apr 2018 #119

Your opinion is just one or many and counts no more than anyone elses. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #125

No - you don't trust Tammy Duckworth's opinion if the Senate floor is "safe" for her child ehrnst Apr 2018 #129

I disagree with her specific accommodation, not that she should demand accommodation. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #131

Anything that requires her to leave the Senate floor is not an accomodation. ehrnst Apr 2018 #142

That's actually not correct. Chemisse Apr 2018 #104

The child is giving up rights to a protective environment. A nearby repurposed office hlthe2b Apr 2018 #109

Where is this idea coming from? Do you not understand that nursing mothers routinely pnwmom Apr 2018 #124

DO YOU not understand what is best for both mother and infant, now and future? Apparently not hlthe2b Apr 2018 #128

DO YOU know better than Tammy Duckworth about how safe the Senate floor is for her infant? ehrnst Apr 2018 #132

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #135

Straw man. When did I say you were male? ehrnst Apr 2018 #154

that's nonsense Egnever Apr 2018 #211

Oh, you think that they're going to be just fine with pumping on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #224

In what way is anyone inconvenienced by a person putting Squinch Apr 2018 #320

Omg - you are so funny! Chemisse Apr 2018 #234

"The child is giving up rights to a protective environment" ?? mcar Apr 2018 #256

That's very true. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #193

What if the baby decides that a huge hall full of loud people makes it cry? DetlefK Apr 2018 #18

Then the mother can hand the baby over to a babysitter to take it out. But a nipple pnwmom Apr 2018 #83

You think that she wants to park a crib on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #301

The OP says nothing about nursing, just allowing babies in the Senate chambers MichMan Apr 2018 #26

But Duckworth has made it clear that this is about nursing. However, pnwmom Apr 2018 #31

Yes, to overturn the ban, not set up a nursery on the Senate floor. ehrnst Apr 2018 #312

I disagree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #67

Fine.. I applaud you for not trying to inflate your own opinion by claiming I or others have no hlthe2b Apr 2018 #77

I have nursed at the mall and only once was I asked to leave. I always was very discreet. I refused Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #95

Pot, meet kettle... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #155

"Those disrputive crying babies." pangaia Apr 2018 #145

I don't think it should be allowed, since it would interfere with the function of the Senate... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #147

I've been in board meetings with a nursing mother, and it was a small conference room. ehrnst Apr 2018 #148

Oh, I forgot that babies don't cry. My memories of being in theaters & church w/crying babies must Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #280

Were those babies nursing in church? ehrnst Apr 2018 #293

What working women do.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #338

You do need to pump on a regular basis during work hours. ehrnst Apr 2018 #339

Luckily for her and her baby, 100% of the Senate disagrees. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #290

Inasmuch as the Senate has existed for about 240 years (100 members for the last 58 years).... George II Apr 2018 #188

Crying Babies? Mitch McConnell has been allowed on the Seante floor for years. FSogol Apr 2018 #204

How come Iceland's parliament manages just fine with nursing babies mainer Apr 2018 #250

Thanks! Great point! nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #291

Sorry, but No. DetlefK Apr 2018 #5

Babies are in many workplaces. They don't belong on factory floors or dangerous places. pnwmom Apr 2018 #33

THAT was the accomodation I recommended. NO. they do not belong on factory floors or dangerous hlthe2b Apr 2018 #38

The Senate floor is not full of bright lights, loud noises, and disruption. 95% of the time, pnwmom Apr 2018 #41

So you think that the Senate can work in noisy disruptive environs ehrnst Apr 2018 #42

Offices Yes. But not places where they inconvenient people trying to do their jobs. DetlefK Apr 2018 #51

How is a nursing baby going to keep them from doing their job? ehrnst Apr 2018 #138

They will hear it. DetlefK Apr 2018 #160

Babies fall asleep after nursing. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #162

I never knew that you can just turn them off and on again. DetlefK Apr 2018 #166

You are confused on what I was saying. ehrnst Apr 2018 #174

Your first-hand experience with childbirth issues is a font of knowledge Tarc Apr 2018 #255

Easy. You rub their cheek with a nipple. They reflexively turn toward it with an open mouth, pnwmom Apr 2018 #326

Maybe we should ban babies from all public places flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #173

Apparently noisy public places are suddenly unsafe for babies, who can't nurse there... ehrnst Apr 2018 #176

Lol, or when teachers want fair pay flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #184

Yep- suddenly it's "those poor, poor children!!" ehrnst Apr 2018 #186

And failing to renew CHIP. As a bargaining tool. flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #195

Breastfed babies nurse off and on. They fall asleep after breastfeeding and if they're hungry again pnwmom Apr 2018 #325

Offices, no. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #164

The presence of women used to be considered disruptive in offices. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #177

Except the presence of babies is *actually* disruptive. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #208

Babies can't cry while they are nursing. ehrnst Apr 2018 #209

what a dumb comment Egnever Apr 2018 #215

What a dumb comeback ehrnst Apr 2018 #240

People don't normally nurse their babies 8 hours a day. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #219

Exactly. The wheels of state will not come to a grinding halt if a baby nurses every few hours ehrnst Apr 2018 #241

No. Not "exactly". Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #249

Well, she's trying to get the conversation started for more workplaces where it is possible ehrnst Apr 2018 #294

How does the government of New Zealand ever get anything done? ehrnst Apr 2018 #300

Well, they're not really civilized over there. Not like us. Mariana Apr 2018 #331

lolz obamanut2012 Apr 2018 #167

In what way will a nursing baby once every few hours "inconvenience" others on the Senate floor? ehrnst Apr 2018 #242

Someone on the senate floor Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #23

When people bring their children to my workplace, its disruptive. milestogo Apr 2018 #54

In what way? ehrnst Apr 2018 #246

Noise and distraction milestogo Apr 2018 #274

So it's a situation where there are cubicles. ehrnst Apr 2018 #275

Many people at my company are allowed to work from home. milestogo Apr 2018 #278

I thought you said that people are bringing kids in to the office and are disruptive ehrnst Apr 2018 #302

Oopsie. nt Mariana Apr 2018 #332

Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. The majority only likes babies in utero. Vinca Apr 2018 #65

While reading the comments above Heartstrings Apr 2018 #165

Yeah, I can hear that too. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #169

After they tell her that "they are only concerned with what is best for the baby and mother" ehrnst Apr 2018 #247

Tammy Duckworth may have to breastfeed in a BATHROOM off the Senate floor, pnwmom Apr 2018 #68

Does she not have an office? Tipperary Apr 2018 #134

Her office is in the Hart Senate Office Building. Ilsa Apr 2018 #157

There is a place like that off of Statuary Hall Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #190

Is it comfortable? A quiet room with soft chairs, maybe Ilsa Apr 2018 #192

Theres no rocker... Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #196

Cool! Thanks! nt Ilsa Apr 2018 #199

Can she vote from there? ehrnst Apr 2018 #248

Go fight someone else. Action_Patrol Apr 2018 #279

Thanks, and I agree. I was just horrified to think she would be forced to use a bathroom. Tipperary Apr 2018 #202

They already allow babies on the senate floor unblock Apr 2018 #81

Oh my lord this thread is fucking hilarious. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #100

Need to think long-term about this one TheRealNorth Apr 2018 #141

Which will only serve.... thewhollytoast Apr 2018 #143

No, just make the rule Nursing Mothers period flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #181

that is not what is being proposed I don't think Egnever Apr 2018 #218

+1 sandensea Apr 2018 #221

I think a nursing room should be installed in the Capitol Building. Ilsa Apr 2018 #159

Careful, That's what I'm promoting and I was excoriated & accused of "mansplaining"tho I'm FEMALE! hlthe2b Apr 2018 #220

That would be great - there are way more female employees in the Senate than just Senators. ehrnst Apr 2018 #304

That's an excellent idea, but it wouldn't solve Sen. Duckworth's situation. Mariana Apr 2018 #333

I am not sure we want to let this happen dsc Apr 2018 #161

LOL leftstreet Apr 2018 #194

Has anyone been or worked in a child care facility lately? Heartstrings Apr 2018 #175

minngal marieo1 Apr 2018 #187

What about comfort animals? Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #197

What. The. Actual. Fuck. flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #201

Everything I post is sarcasm. Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #205

Once babies are officially allowed on the floor, it will be appropriate... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #200

How card is it to just bring in some sort of opaque screen or something and a nice small couch Afromania Apr 2018 #203

Or better yet how hard is it to have the baby wait for the few minutes it takes to vote. Egnever Apr 2018 #216

Some of congress is already comprised of infants, so should be fine. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2018 #207

Fuck that Egnever Apr 2018 #210

Yes, the work of Men will not wait or be paused for mere childcare. ehrnst Apr 2018 #225

They can hold the vote Egnever Apr 2018 #227

One more person who has obviously never successfully breastfed a baby. nt pnwmom Apr 2018 #230

ahaha Egnever Apr 2018 #233

Owning a breast pump is not mark of any special knowledge of breastfeeding. pnwmom Apr 2018 #235

Good for you! Egnever Apr 2018 #238

So now you don't think that they should hold the vote. ehrnst Apr 2018 #239

no not at all Egnever Apr 2018 #243

+1. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #244

From what I understand, they don't hold the vote for anybody. ehrnst Apr 2018 #232

Women find children irritating, too. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #237

The arrogance and presumption of adults who forget that babies are human -- pnwmom Apr 2018 #245

I don't enjoy being around babies because I have forgotten babies are human? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #253

Your enjoyment or non-enjoyment is beside the point. This is about a woman Senator's pnwmom Apr 2018 #254

No, much of the discussion here is broader than one woman in the Senate. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #257

The OP is about Duckworth's attempt to bring in her nursing baby and not exclude herself pnwmom Apr 2018 #258

I understand what the OP is about. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #264

You mean like in New Zealand? ehrnst Apr 2018 #305

No, I don't mean like any legislature anywhere. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #306

The New Zealand parlaiment is a workplace. ehrnst Apr 2018 #307

Fallacy of composition. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #309

So what were you talking about here? ehrnst Apr 2018 #310

It's pretty straightforward. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #313

When did I say that "people should be bringing their infants to the workplace?" ehrnst Apr 2018 #315

Right here: Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #317

No, that is not about babies, that's about women. ehrnst Apr 2018 #318

Yes, very much so. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #319

you, calling babies larvae is is absolutely a method of dehumanizing? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #335

Fuck the sexist attitude of those in the Senate who would stop her. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #228

it's not sexist to say babies don't belong on the senate floor. Egnever Apr 2018 #229

Nursing babies belong in any non-dangerous public place that mothers belong in. pnwmom Apr 2018 #231

no sorry they don't Egnever Apr 2018 #236

Well, other civilized countries manage. ehrnst Apr 2018 #308

It's just behind other countries, in terms of what is done there to accomodate families ehrnst Apr 2018 #311

I really can't understand what everyone's (or some) problem is with this, they're losing the context George II Apr 2018 #259

I know. It's so overblown. I can't figure out why some people are so threatened by this. pnwmom Apr 2018 #260

I just looked it up: George II Apr 2018 #263

The topic of breastfeeding always brings out the knuckle-draggers here. Squinch Apr 2018 #277

This message was self-deleted by its author Egnever Apr 2018 #212

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #217

I knew this thread was gonna be lively mokawanis Apr 2018 #251

What next? Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #252

You're seriously going to compare the Senate chamber to an operating room? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #261

Apparently, Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #262

Were you joking? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #265

Admittedly exaggerating Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #267

Friends here disagree all the time. pnwmom Apr 2018 #268

I forget a lot of stuff these days! Mme. Defarge Apr 2018 #269

Sometimes that's a handy feature. pnwmom Apr 2018 #270

That's some slippery slope there.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #303

Yes! "Breast feeding!!! Run away! Run away!" Squinch Apr 2018 #314

OK, kids. It's essentially saying that a Senator with a child under one can bring that child Squinch Apr 2018 #266

What about grandchildren? MichMan Apr 2018 #273

What about them? If some guy wants to carry his 6 month old grandchild onto the senate Squinch Apr 2018 #276

Have you seen the crazy shit republicans have done in the last decade? Egnever Apr 2018 #292

Yes, we do understand some men's fear of breast feeding, Squinch Apr 2018 #298

No you don't understand a thing Egnever Apr 2018 #321

Poor dears. So troubled by the presence of infants. Squinch Apr 2018 #323

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #324

The reply to my reply must have been a doozie! And I didn't even get to see it! Squinch Apr 2018 #336

There can't be many, most Senators are over 60 years old. George II Apr 2018 #282

Didn't see if anyone posted it here, but the Senate approved the rule change unanimously: George II Apr 2018 #281

And she wins! Apparently the GOP led Senate is more progressive on this ehrnst Apr 2018 #297

Wow! The Senate Republicans see reason for once mcar Apr 2018 #316

Inviting someone to make the 50th recommendation. nt LAS14 Apr 2018 #322

They let one give the SOTU Address, FFS. n/t Orsino Apr 2018 #327

If a senator in Austalia can breastfeed while addressing parliament in 2017, and... haele Apr 2018 #334

I think it's about the boobies. Makes 'em nutty. Squinch Apr 2018 #337