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FakeNoose

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73. Reconstruction is what caused the KKK to happen

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 11:46 AM

Apr 2018

The white people got scared and said "Holy shit, what are we gonna do about these uppity POCs?"

Southerners who joined the KKK after the Civil War, didn't consider themselves racists before the war. Things were different then, in the old days a white person couldn't be convicted of harming a POC. So during Reconstruction they found it necessary to wear hoods and keep their identities secret. It's not right, but that's how it happened.

That same fear occurs nowadays when a retail manager sees 2 POCs walking into the store together. He thinks "It must be a hold-up or something. I'd better call the police, just in case."

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So... **TWO** GODDAMNED MINUTES?? [View all] Blue_Tires Apr 2018 OP

Well...seriously...it was the middle of the afternoon... CincyDem Apr 2018 #1

That manager must have Spidey Sense or something... Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #3

Otherwise Starbucks' black female COO would have Hortensis Apr 2018 #123

No worries Blue_Tires JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #2

Thanks for the Green Book comment.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #12

These times JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #21

I hear ya.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #23

For black travelers in the '40s - '70s BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #34

Wealthy / Affluent black folks in Cadillacs JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #38

This is why my mother STAUNCHLY REFUSED BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #47

Oh my goodness! JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #54

My mom used to talk about "Chicken Bone Beach" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #59

This is fascinating history- dawg day Apr 2018 #125

Not just "where to sleep" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #127

Ruth and the Green Book mia Apr 2018 #62

Thank you for posting. madaboutharry Apr 2018 #64

You're welcome! mia Apr 2018 #67

Thank you for posting! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #65

I didn't know about "The Green Book" until today. mia Apr 2018 #68

When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #71

I had a gay version of this when I was in college dsc Apr 2018 #94

It's pretty sad BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #98

It was mostly for eateries and clubs dsc Apr 2018 #101

Geez. I had no idea what a Green Book was until I Googled it. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #33

After the Emancipation in the mid-late 1860s post-Civil War BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #40

Reconstruction is what caused the KKK to happen FakeNoose Apr 2018 #73

Correct BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #76

New Green Book would be a great idea. nt Anon-C Apr 2018 #35

+1,000 malaise Apr 2018 #61

She's a dumb bigot, too Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #86

Publish one online or on an app, Ilsa Apr 2018 #89

Jeez. It takes me 5 minutes to decipher their damn menu. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #4

same here before i say the standard...just get me a cup of coffee dembotoz Apr 2018 #25

Yeah, I've loitered at the cash register longer than that catrose Apr 2018 #29

They look like typical office attired millennials MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #5

And they are TRULY millennials BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #56

Yep! MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #102

They also said the cops just came up and ordered them to leave ExciteBike66 Apr 2018 #6

Police have no choice. If owner wants you off property they have to oblige MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #11

She's not even the owner JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #18

I'm not saying it would not otherwise have ended in a removal ExciteBike66 Apr 2018 #22

The cops also radioed for a supervisor to show up. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2018 #66

Police have a responsibility to assess the situation and ask relevant Witnesses uponit7771 Apr 2018 #44

They DO "have a choice" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #63

I call massive BS... lame54 Apr 2018 #81

That doesn't apply to premises open to the public EffieBlack Apr 2018 #95

the police have a choice in making the arrest which in this case was without probable cause. MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #99

They can't remove the person unless they are actually trespassing, regardless what the owner/manager EffieBlack Apr 2018 #106

Thank you! This is good information MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #108

No problem! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #110

+1. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #117

The Philly police should look bad. That Police Commissioner should be ashamed... Anon-C Apr 2018 #45

Not sure what was actually said ExciteBike66 Apr 2018 #49

I know you won't see this but this is for other posters here BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #77

I can only hope this is the event that opens up the long-needed national discussion. Boomerproud Apr 2018 #7

If a white supremacist mercuryblues Apr 2018 #14

I'm looking for the JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #20

Yeah, there's that. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #46

Are those the actual guys? Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #8

Good one! mcar Apr 2018 #28

I have a 4 yr old and gdaughter and you are sooooo right. efhmc Apr 2018 #60

Holy shit. mercuryblues Apr 2018 #9

Something was very wrong with that manager. She is obviously a hateful racist bigot. OregonBlue Apr 2018 #10

The fact that she has not come forward with any evidence of MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #15

There seemed to be other customers in the coffee shop Grammy23 Apr 2018 #31

My husband's ex-wife was Native American, liberalhistorian Apr 2018 #37

"she'd have been out numbered by the customers who knew otherwise." BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #79

I think there were customers heard on the video Grammy23 Apr 2018 #116

The guy who they were meeting BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #120

I've ready very similar stories by African Americans MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #103

In other words... BigMin28 Apr 2018 #26

I wonder if this is the tip of her iceberg. zentrum Apr 2018 #41

See my post #118 below. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #119

Just look at the interview she did. No answers. JI7 Apr 2018 #43

Something was very wrong with the police too. hunter Apr 2018 #58

Her black co-workers say she harassed them (the co-workers) and that she had also thrown other tblue37 Apr 2018 #118

Horrendous. zentrum Apr 2018 #124

Racist shitheads are everywhere arent they? ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #13

They've always been there, they just all started coming out in the open ooky Apr 2018 #19

It makes me so mad and so sad. I am shocked to discover how many hateful bigots there are in America OregonBlue Apr 2018 #88

And cellphone cameras EffieBlack Apr 2018 #96

Daily News Article for the non Twitter folks JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #16

And the cops did NOT read them their Miranda Rights per that interview BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #17

And the Constitution EffieBlack Apr 2018 #97

Here is the latest BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #100

"There was no specific policy regarding the crime of Defiant Trespass" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #109

Here is what should be included in any "new policy" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #126

That woman was probably a marshmallow Baitball Blogger Apr 2018 #24

2 minutes? 2 fcking minutes? mcar Apr 2018 #27

Oh my God I did not know the woman never spoke to them MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #30

"I remember Rizzo" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #52

One of the most evil people in my lifetime MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #115

Since it's apparent this was an isolated, racist person... Chakaconcarne Apr 2018 #32

I agree. While I never go to Starbucks, but only because of personal preference, Stonepounder Apr 2018 #51

Guess you missed this other "isolated racist person" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #53

It wasn't isolated, this is sad really I think Starbucks is a company that tries uponit7771 Apr 2018 #92

I am floored if that timeline is accurate blake2012 Apr 2018 #36

FFS...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #39

The manager probably mistook them for someone else that had been there awhile Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #42

That neighborhood (Rittenhouse Square) is only 3% black BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #74

OK, no Starbucks coffee for me. lark Apr 2018 #48

that's them? are you sure there weren't some crips or bloods standing behind them? kaotikross Apr 2018 #50

In defense of the store manager... mark67 Apr 2018 #55

Even if it was five minutes or ten minutes, that manager wasn't aware of Starbucks' policy.... George II Apr 2018 #57

Starbucks policy is different depending on the store location oberliner Apr 2018 #69

Problem is, none of these "policies" get posted in these Starbucks BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #82

never heard of the paper bag test fescuerescue Apr 2018 #114

These two should end up owning their own Starbucks location. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #70

That's not even time enough to figure out what to order. MineralMan Apr 2018 #72

Take the damn locks off the door. Have some humanity Pepsidog Apr 2018 #75

Sigh. You haven't encountered the people who smash toilets and paint the walls with shit. hunter Apr 2018 #83

Yea I get it and feel bad for the small owner but Starbucks is a big boy and can handle vandals Pepsidog Apr 2018 #85

Not only that, here in Canada, one cannot use Starbucks restroom if you are akbacchus_BC Apr 2018 #122

"No way a paying customer will vandalise the facilities!" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #128

The friend they were meeting told cops theyd go somewhere else, cops said No, too late EffieBlack Apr 2018 #78

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #93

These men acted with class and dignity in the face of ignorance. Pepsidog Apr 2018 #80

Figured as much. Afromania Apr 2018 #84

Yeah, when you frame it that way. But they did hang around griloco Apr 2018 #87

Like dog years differ from human ones, evidently racist minutes are different from regular ones. betsuni Apr 2018 #90

oh I thought this would be about Stormy Daniels and Trump milestogo Apr 2018 #91

No, in that case, the headline would have liberalhistorian Apr 2018 #105

So. Does this mean if I walk into a Starbucks Horse with no Name Apr 2018 #104

Are you black, brown or white? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #111

The timeline blows any claim the former manager makes out of the water. Blue_true Apr 2018 #107

A perfect illustration of why cops don't "have to" arrest people just because the manager says so EffieBlack Apr 2018 #112

Yep. Blue_true Apr 2018 #113

This is so horrible. Those two guys were waiting for a friend akbacchus_BC Apr 2018 #121