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kstewart33

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90. I agree with you, NCT. But...

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 03:04 PM

Apr 2018

more than anything, your post is the hundredth or so example that whenever the name 'Bernie' is the subject of or mentioned in a post, the discussion immediately degenerates into a waste of time. Back and forths, back and forths.

Can we call a moratorium on Bernie posts for awhile? They are a complete waste of time and do nothing but damage the unity in our community.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] NCTraveler Apr 2018 OP

Yeah, okay Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #1

Thank you for your support. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #3

As you might have noted Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #26

I must be a bit more optimistic. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #34

Jesus, the first response you get on this board is that? Fuck this Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #76

Bullshit Kentonio Apr 2018 #108

I agree with you, NCT. But... kstewart33 Apr 2018 #90

How is your "don't think" not an ad hominem? Cary Apr 2018 #67

How is it so? Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #71

Telling someone that no one cares about them isn't diverting to someone's person? Cary Apr 2018 #72

If you believe that it was in your opinion Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #105

I already have. Scoopster Apr 2018 #2

wow, such solid proof that you've laid this stuff aside and stopped attacking Sanders... JCanete Apr 2018 #39

Where is sanders magical voter revolution? Gothmog Apr 2018 #57

so fight for those proposals, or stand in the way goth? Nobody can make people insist on something JCanete Apr 2018 #62

Or try living in the real world and not lie about magical voter revolutions Gothmog Apr 2018 #64

+1000. ehrnst Apr 2018 #68

There is something magical about a turf that won't flush? Cary Apr 2018 #70

when did he do that Goth? Show me a link to him saying this. So has every proposal ever.These things JCanete Apr 2018 #73

JCanete, let's face it, Sanders has not performed. Hortensis Apr 2018 #91

of course you're not alone in that observation. It doesn't make it correct. Sanders presence has JCanete Apr 2018 #92

I gave Sanders his due for his role in 2016's outcome. Hortensis Apr 2018 #99

I am at the airport but I made you run away on this issue earlier Gothmog Apr 2018 #111

my claim that communism is now acceptible? Jesus, that's a gop a tactic as I've heard on these JCanete Apr 2018 #113

Do you ever tire of being wrong Gothmog Apr 2018 #129

you're welcome to bother proving anybody ever said anything you are pretending was said. JCanete Apr 2018 #130

Again, Sanders lied and justified his platform based on a magical voter revolution Gothmog Apr 2018 #131

so, just looking at the first 2 to start, you are entirely mischaracterizing both. JCanete Apr 2018 #134

Sanders lied to his supporters about his proposals being feasible in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #136

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2018 #142

Goth, I can't go anywhere with this. Instead of taking anything I said and actually addressing it, JCanete Apr 2018 #143

The fact that you are in denial about the premise of the Sanders platform is not my fault Gothmog Apr 2018 #144

I didn't say you don't have a point of view.You clearly have that. But I"m tired of trying to JCanete Apr 2018 #145

The concept that you think that you have made valid arguments amuses me Gothmog Apr 2018 #147

So you feel you are the arbiter of who espouses "progressive ideals" Cary Apr 2018 #69

Well by all means feel free to define them for me yourself. Its my version of progressive ideals. JCanete Apr 2018 #74

At the moment we are besieged by fascists Cary Apr 2018 #75

And not just Democratic but in some cases one must vote for the rightwing democrat Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #77

Some will, some won't, so what? Cary Apr 2018 #85

Degree of radicalism/extremism can probably be quantified, Hortensis Apr 2018 #93

It takes all kinds. Cary Apr 2018 #96

I do. I have. How is this relevant to what we're talking about? nt JCanete Apr 2018 #87

Come on. Cary Apr 2018 #88

The original conversation was about what is magical talk and thinking...not about JCanete Apr 2018 #89

Rise above Cary Apr 2018 #94

Cary, is your interest ever in having a conversation? Or do you think there are points involved. JCanete Apr 2018 #95

Nice ad hominem Cary Apr 2018 #97

how is yours not? JCanete Apr 2018 #98

I added.to my answer Cary Apr 2018 #100

The same way you can get into a room with a bunch of people who all agree that JCanete Apr 2018 #101

I see Cary Apr 2018 #102

I never said that. If you at any point have something to teach, maybe I'll learn from it. JCanete Apr 2018 #103

You aren't listening Cary Apr 2018 #104

And I think you're the one playing the game, so that's where we are. For my part, JCanete Apr 2018 #106

Unfortunately you just reaffirm my theory Cary Apr 2018 #109

You are literally attacking my motives. Your attack goes to my character, which IS out of bounds for JCanete Apr 2018 #110

I gave you my honest assessment Cary Apr 2018 #112

why I push back against your baseless assesment? And if I do then that's more proof that you were JCanete Apr 2018 #114

I told you why you push back Cary Apr 2018 #115

please tell me you're just fucking with me already. To literally JCanete Apr 2018 #118

Your words are not the words I expect to hear from an honest broker Cary Apr 2018 #123

Especially one who accuses everyone else of "playing games." (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #141

Yes he is always about how others are at fault for not toeing his line Cary Apr 2018 #146

Bernie gets more criticism here on DU panader0 Apr 2018 #4

Nonsense. n/t FSogol Apr 2018 #6

Can you link to the forum you are talking about? NCTraveler Apr 2018 #7

The forum is DU panader0 Apr 2018 #8

Massive change from your first comment. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #9

He said from a certain group and then later some posters. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #21

"...at the peril of the Democratic Party."? Hortensis Apr 2018 #116

This really has me scratching my head. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #11

Well, there's a surprise...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #47

WAit, how in the FUCK can the person who said what is in that link be allowed to post HERE? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Apr 2018 #139

Agree completely to his clout, as many previous Democrats noted we need both wings to fly karynnj Apr 2018 #13

You shouldnt completely agree with a blatant lie. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #14

The way I parse it he is not lying on anything karynnj Apr 2018 #15

The lie is blatant. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #16

I am missing something -what is the lie. karynnj Apr 2018 #17

Exactly, what is the "blatant" lie? panader0 Apr 2018 #18

You just can't talk to some people. I've tried many times to point out rainin Apr 2018 #28

Spot on outside of your last sentence. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #32

Ha! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #22

But her emails. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #23

Wow...that explains so much! Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #29

If we lose to the russian KGB again I will know why Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #82

Back in the DU primary wars, I proposed the idea of promoting your preferred candidates w/o bashing FSogol Apr 2018 #5

I have issues with Bernie. Blue_true Apr 2018 #10

This is how we win 4now Apr 2018 #12

This is how we win. IF we live our words. Hortensis Apr 2018 #19

Well, that's good RandomAccess Apr 2018 #20

lol RandiFan1290 Apr 2018 #24

... progressoid Apr 2018 #51

You're a better person than I am. Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #25

I am watching the local Our Revolution attack an Asian candidate due to race Gothmog Apr 2018 #58

Not surprised at all. nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #60

Bernie, along with Jill Stein, are largely respondsible for drumpf residing democratisphere Apr 2018 #27

Bullshit. More Clinton supporters defected to McCainin 2008 than Sanders supporters to Trump Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #36

Apathy gave them drumpf. Pathetic! democratisphere Apr 2018 #37

Yes it was a dark day when President McCain was elected in 2008 emulatorloo Apr 2018 #42

Tens of millions of Americans made individual choices in both elections Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #46

Trump won the election because of around 100,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania emulatorloo Apr 2018 #49

Clearly it's not water under the bridge. progressoid Apr 2018 #53

I am saying it should be water under the bridge. I think it may be in the real world. emulatorloo Apr 2018 #55

Right. IRL it's not a thing. progressoid Apr 2018 #56

Bernie Sanders Voters Helped Trump Win and Here's Proof radical noodle Apr 2018 #61

yes, but what is that proof of? Is it proof that somehow Sanders turned voters who would JCanete Apr 2018 #63

So half as many Sanders voters went with the GOP as did 2008 Clinton voters. And this... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #65

It is estimated that something like 12% of Bernie voters voted for Trump . . . markpkessinger Apr 2018 #121

Your narrative might be compelling radical noodle Apr 2018 #124

Right, and so will the great majority of Bernie supporters . . . markpkessinger Apr 2018 #125

I don't see any non-Democrats radical noodle Apr 2018 #126

If Bernie had won the nomination . . . markpkessinger Apr 2018 #127

No he would not have radical noodle Apr 2018 #128

bullshit devoid of evidence. No excuses for that. nt JCanete Apr 2018 #40

Simple math makes it very easy to understand. democratisphere Apr 2018 #43

The math does, it just doesn't back up your claim that Sanders had a negative impact JCanete Apr 2018 #44

Makes you wonder where certain folks fall on the whole "hanging chad" thing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #83

I hate the word "righteous" HopeAgain Apr 2018 #30

Thank you for your thoughts about the use of a word. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #31

problem is that if that's your usage then even in your post about how you are not JCanete Apr 2018 #41

I readily admit that I used to love Bernie Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #33

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Apr 2018 #59

+1 Cary Apr 2018 #66

And for the most likely democrat to win their demographic. Which might mean a rightwing democrat. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #84

In Texas we support the Democrat on the ballot Gothmog Apr 2018 #150

Let me help you with that a little, you forgot the . Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #151

Please no offense meant... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2018 #35

No offense taken. Thank you kindly. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #52

Bully for you. alarimer Apr 2018 #38

I will say one thing. I have not seen lies posted about Sen.Sanders they would disappear in a New Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #48

righteous critiques ornotna Apr 2018 #45

Noble, but I will continue fighting to rescue my party from Bernie and his Bros. ashtonelijah Apr 2018 #50

It Is Unfortunate How So Many Do Not Understand Why Millions Upon Millions Of Americans PaulX2 Apr 2018 #86

Perhaps people don't understand lapucelle Apr 2018 #132

That's fine, many of us will feel like we finally do have a party that represents us again. Kentonio Apr 2018 #133

Ah, the magic of having an old white man wagging his finger on your behalf. Great again, are we? ashtonelijah Apr 2018 #148

Careful, trying to insult fellow DU members by insinuating they are Republicans is against TOS. Kentonio Apr 2018 #149

Wanting a demagogue who hates the Democratic Party to hijack the party ashtonelijah Apr 2018 #152

when Bernie confirms the 2020 run his acolytes are pressing BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #54

Righteous? BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #78

The 1% Wins Again - When Will They Get Tire Of Winning? PaulX2 Apr 2018 #80

Yallow...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #119

Channel your energy in a positive Democratic direction. democratisphere Apr 2018 #81

I have come to the point when I see a post with Bernie Sanders in the tittle kacekwl Apr 2018 #107

Good! nt Raine Apr 2018 #117

Plus a thousand nolabels Apr 2018 #120

I guess, then, we should dispense with primaries altogether . . . markpkessinger Apr 2018 #122

Yeah, the press says Sanders is the front runner: establishment, anointed, betsuni Apr 2018 #138

"Righteous" DiverDave Apr 2018 #135

Take care. Have a safe trip. nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #137