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Ms. Toad

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11. It is a real problem.

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:51 AM

Apr 2018

Particularly their use of the courts. As someone can't just say, "that's stupid." You actually have to walk through and explain step by step why you can't use the Uniform Commercial Code to establish you are not required to have a driver's license. Not that I've ever had to do that. . .

(I drafted opinions in an appellate court, and these sovereign citizens were maddening - they had just enough connection to the law that you couldn't get away with just saying, "that's just stupid." To be the target and have to spend a fortune defending against the nonsense would be even worse. At least I was getting paid to do it.)

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These "Sovereign Citizen" groups are a menace. [View all] Archae Apr 2018 OP

Most of them are ignorant white wing racist gun-nuts. Hoyt Apr 2018 #1

The ADL did a training session on hate groups for my firm Gothmog Apr 2018 #2

Once you start believing moondust Apr 2018 #3

Menace? They're white supremacist terrorists. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #4

Not all of them, there are black sovereign citizen groups Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #5

Is that a statistical standard or statistical aberration? LanternWaste Apr 2018 #8

My experience is racism isnt an overriding factor for most of them Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #14

I had a relative like that Generic Brad Apr 2018 #6

He end up going to jail? Archae Apr 2018 #7

He did not Generic Brad Apr 2018 #12

You should search Youtube for videos TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #9

They are a huge scourge for sure Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #10

It is a real problem. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #11

WA had to install KT2000 Apr 2018 #13

Tennessee citizens know how to deal with them jmowreader Apr 2018 #15

I bet the FBI is overwhelmed keeping up with these nutters. nt Ilsa Apr 2018 #16

Trump directed them to focus only only Muslim Extremists Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #17

I'm not certain I believe that the FBI would Ilsa Apr 2018 #18