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205. Yes, the devil is in the details

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:54 AM

Apr 2018

which were woefully lacking in the proposal.

Guaranteeing $15/hour sounds great if you are healthy enough to work full time. However, it is also inflationary which hurts those with little or no money much harder than those in the middle and upper classes.

Then there are the questions about how the guaranteed jobs intertwine with the rest of the social safety net. Do I have to work 40 hours a week or can I only work 6 hours a week because more than that would make me ineligible for other government programs?

I also had a contagious disease a few months ago and wasn't supposed to have much contact with the public for about three weeks. Are they going to keep my job open for me? Then I was off my feet for over two weeks recently so I doubt that I would have been useful at work during that period.

Those and similar types of questions come from someone who is willing to work. Imagine what would occur with the segment of the population that is looking only for discretionary funds?

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Bernie Sanders to unveil plan to guarantee every American a job [View all] Donkees Apr 2018 OP

Bernie, leading the way... as usual!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #1

Hmmm, ok sure awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #2

Yeh, more free stuff the country cannot afford. If the government guarantees a job at $15/hr its politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #133

The funds to pay taxes and buy government securities come from government spending CarlitosMMT Apr 2018 #175

Why are they afraid to say "a guaranteed minimum income." nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #201

Maybe because they don't see it that way? whathehell Apr 2018 #312

I understand how monetary policy works. I majored in Finance and Accounting. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #262

As Carlitos suggested Plucketeer Apr 2018 #276

Nobody is talking about 'over-printing' money CarlitosMMT Apr 2018 #295

ALWAYS MONEY FOR TAX CUTS THOUGH EH? Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #180

That's why Democrats and those that profess to be Democrats have to stop.... George II Apr 2018 #251

Are you saying I do that? Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #293

See my post below to my link in which I responded to a previous poster. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #271

Ok. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #294

I got news for you the private sector is not capable of solving the problem without profits Stargazer99 Apr 2018 #300

Booooo. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #307

Can you explain your statement? Caliman73 May 2018 #315

Blah blah blah. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #319

TAX CUTS AND THROW MORE MONEY AT THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!! liberalnarb Apr 2018 #305

You're worried about a 'government welfare program"? I will let your words speak for themselves. Doremus Apr 2018 #275

You should be grateful that you had the opportunities and quit assuming everyone has Stargazer99 Apr 2018 #299

What will tuition cost once it is free for the student? MichMan Apr 2018 #302

You're unable to read the primary sources? LanternWaste Apr 2018 #304

Dude... Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #308

More "'free stuff"?....You sound like Mitt Romney... whathehell Apr 2018 #310

Video: The Sanders Institute Talks: A National Job Guarantee Donkees Apr 2018 #8

Thanks for posting this... the "right to a job" message needs to be spread far and wide. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #13

I hope the first to sign up are those poor unemployed educators from Burlington College George II Apr 2018 #139

Ouch. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #186

.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #236

I read somewhere that there's also a plan in the works for free woodworking classes. George II Apr 2018 #239

Stop..... ehrnst Apr 2018 #240

Actually, he's lagging behind a number of Democrats with Hortensis Apr 2018 #15

I prefer quiet and effective ehrnst Apr 2018 #237

And I think they're ALL following FDR's example. Who cares who came up with it? Doremus Apr 2018 #277

No, he's following Corey Booker, who has already introduced his bill. pnwmom Apr 2018 #76

Even before Senator Booker Rep. John Conyers introduced Amimnoch Apr 2018 #106

Thanks! pnwmom Apr 2018 #107

Hillary too... Zoonart Apr 2018 #177

Corey Booker, to his credit, has come over to Bernie's side on a number of issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #153

Bernie FOLLOWED John Conyers and Cory Booker on this, not the other way around. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #154

Wow. It seems that some are determined to push some of our fine Democratic politicians KitSileya Apr 2018 #199

Yeah, I know, it's on the tip of my tongue, and I think it also has something to do with pnwmom Apr 2018 #202

Thta's about right too. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #309

That's not what happened here. You know that. George II Apr 2018 #245

... BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #285

One, Bernies's bill is more extensive. Two, Sanders has a long track record of involvement on this Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #219

Bernie hasn't introduced his bill so we don't know exactly what it is yet. And if it is "dumb" pnwmom Apr 2018 #226

That's a fair point Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #261

I would feel better about Bernie now if he hadn't left the party immediately pnwmom Apr 2018 #274

I realize that a lot of people sincerely feel the way that you do. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #278

The problem is that he didn't unite strongly with Democrats after he lost the 2016 primaries pnwmom Apr 2018 #283

I disagree, but only by degree, so I can generaly accept where you are coming from Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #292

Not familiar with Sanders' track record on the issue. ehrnst Apr 2018 #241

I quoted this above Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #264

So one of his advisors has a track record, and Sanders organized a town hall on it. ehrnst Apr 2018 #290

How do you know that, it's not even written yet? George II Apr 2018 #246

Yep JustAnotherGen May 2018 #313

RTFA TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #94

And coming up with a competing "plan" (of course it's still only a "draft") George II Apr 2018 #140

That's right, TheSmarterDog! Cha Apr 2018 #171

Well, pointing a way, anyway. Orsino Apr 2018 #223

Old idea floated around the time of the New Deal. haele May 2018 #316

Oh Bernie snowybirdie Apr 2018 #3

He won't. He can't. MineralMan Apr 2018 #5

Thats the ticket! attack the messenger. Who the fuck cares what your beef is with him if the JCanete Apr 2018 #16

Bernie is certainly not the first person to think of this.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #47

I dont' think so, and I hardly see why that's relevant. Its being proposed by a Senator. Like it or JCanete Apr 2018 #54

They dont seem to understand that just because they didnt notice until Bernie did it EffieBlack Apr 2018 #75

fucking a effie...lovely, jump on the strawman. I have never personally credited sanders with JCanete Apr 2018 #82

But he's not the one in the Senate proposing them mcar Apr 2018 #130

Why mention Clinton here? There must be a reason. George II Apr 2018 #145

no shit? A reason? Its called an appeal to reason. JCanete Apr 2018 #155

Reason? haha, that's your FIRST mistake JC!! Seriously, your posts make sense... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #247

lol@your "fucking a effie" Get so mad you bring up Hillary!? Cha Apr 2018 #181

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #183

no that's not what happened. You clearly misunderstand the reason I brought Clinton up. I dont' have JCanete Apr 2018 #184

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Apr 2018 #187

seriously? Its that important that you are right and I am wrong that you will mischaracterize JCanete Apr 2018 #190

Youi are in denial as to how silly sanders proposals are Gothmog Apr 2018 #215

No, I didn't miss it. George II Apr 2018 #243

It wasn't missed sammythecat Apr 2018 #259

+1 nt brer cat Apr 2018 #227

Bwahahahaha sheshe2 Apr 2018 #291

Using a strawman to call out a strawman. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #281

FDR True Blue American Apr 2018 #88

FDR, 1932 old. True Blue American Apr 2018 #97

However... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #189

I doubt fans of any politician give much, if any, thought to the origins of a politicians ideas. sammythecat Apr 2018 #250

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #289

Is it any better than Booker's? At least Booker's proposal is already completed..... George II Apr 2018 #141

No that's great. So two Senators are in favor of this and I applaud them both. If Booker's plan is JCanete Apr 2018 #158

So once again, let's split our efforts and dilute the Democratic legislative effort. George II Apr 2018 #163

It seems like something we should be forcused on. I dont' expect Booker to come here and post it. JCanete Apr 2018 #185

Spot on!! Bernie haters gotta hate... sad to see when we should be uniting to get InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #164

It's more like Bernie is coming around to Democrats way of thinking. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #228

Assuming there's some truth in that, fine... let's rally around the ideas that UNITE us. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #230

It matters when it's presented as his, and original. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #280

Another impossible goal from Senator Sanders. MineralMan Apr 2018 #4

It will appeal to his base who will support him rather than the real Democrat, unfortunately. Doodley Apr 2018 #6

So recent history has shown. MineralMan Apr 2018 #10

What is so special is that we get the before, during and after threads grantcart Apr 2018 #18

+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2018 #77

Show me how even middling goals democrats put forward are possible without peopel first JCanete Apr 2018 #19

Block Trump. For pete's sake! MineralMan Apr 2018 #20

It means nothing if we simply pave the way for the next trump, but that was a strange direction JCanete Apr 2018 #24

I give up. Back to ignoring all Bernie posts. MineralMan Apr 2018 #26

Given your input here, I really think that's the right decision to make. JCanete Apr 2018 #28

Aw, Geez... MineralMan Apr 2018 #29

Amen. shanny Apr 2018 #105

I do not blame you Gothmog Apr 2018 #84

I also believe in living in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #216

Obama was vilified and the GOP heralded for their obstruction on every issue. What people bettyellen Apr 2018 #32

Again, we have to make the climate. There was no climate demanding a border wall. Somehow JCanete Apr 2018 #39

Lying to the public is just that. That we need to cut military spending, tax more is part of the bettyellen Apr 2018 #73

incremental change does not happen unless you threaten bigger change. You can't get compromise JCanete Apr 2018 #78

Only if you believe in magical voter revolutions Gothmog Apr 2018 #86

I'm done with wasting time responding to you on this topic until you address points I've JCanete Apr 2018 #91

Good luck with believing in magic Gothmog Apr 2018 #95

so you actually won't or can't address my points. Noted. I hope you enjoy hearing yourself speak. JCanete Apr 2018 #98

I had fun addressing your amusing attempts at arguments on the other thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #108

If we do not gain control of Congress True Blue American Apr 2018 #117

well doned...you found something from back in January. No new news has come of this, at all...which JCanete Apr 2018 #124

3 months? True Blue American Apr 2018 #143

Maybe check your source... KTM Apr 2018 #272

I have addressed your attempts at argument as to magical revolutions on the other thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #120

The lie is in always disparaging incremental change and pretending that a big ask is bettyellen Apr 2018 #93

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #96

I see your own paycheck is your pet issue. Wont argue that cis white men bettyellen Apr 2018 #99

bettyellen, that's dissapointing. If you can't attack my words frame me. Literally in my post I JCanete Apr 2018 #102

Pay discrimination against POC and women is a much bigger issue, yet was dismissed as identity bettyellen Apr 2018 #127

who are those people who dismissed this? Show that dismissal? Because we have banks and big JCanete Apr 2018 #129

If your always talking about how corps are unfair to you, its about your paycheck. I get that you bettyellen Apr 2018 #132

I'm not talking about how they are unfair to "ME". You made that shit up to support your argument. JCanete Apr 2018 #156

Im side eyeing this wedge/ distraction crap pretty hard. If identity politics are bettyellen Apr 2018 #168

Nonsense. You are pointing in the wrong direction. That is not what I want at all and we can't JCanete Apr 2018 #173

Free college for everyone- in practice, totally racist, conceptually fucking stupid and bettyellen Apr 2018 #174

in practice totally racist how. Conceptually stupid how? This is exactly what a first world nation JCanete Apr 2018 #179

The poorest and POC would be excluded as their public education suck. bettyellen Apr 2018 #206

oh that? eh.... I didn't devle into the numbers so I don't know how much Sanders plan JCanete Apr 2018 #210

At least some Democratic Senators got their hands dirty actually trying to ehrnst Apr 2018 #232

Pay discrimination against POC and women was dismissed as not a top priority. George II Apr 2018 #252

We cant pander to this ignorant anxiety white men have about an inclusive and fair economy bettyellen Apr 2018 #273

Yes- a huge effort was made to downplay these issues to court Mr Anxiety from the rust belt. You bettyellen Apr 2018 #288

Of course you ignore the fact that the banking regulations that you speak of TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #165

I have no reason to ignore that. I'm not surprised that the JCanete Apr 2018 #176

The point is that you decided to attack the Democratic senators TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #191

Look, I'll have to tackle a lot of this later, but you can't use "jobs" as an excuse for not doing JCanete Apr 2018 #192

Why not? TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #204

shitttt.....lost connection lost a post...good lord. will ahve to return to this later. JCanete Apr 2018 #209

The reason deregulation happens and will continue to happen is because those that profess... George II Apr 2018 #253

You are getting too close to home Gothmog Apr 2018 #109

Exactly right! mountain grammy Apr 2018 #74

The ACA is a Democratic piece of legislation and policy. Which Democrat are you calling "sicko"? George II Apr 2018 #255

LOL, that's EXACTLY what most Democrats said when Bernie advocated for same-sex marriage rights InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #22

OK. That's great. Now, who's President again? MineralMan Apr 2018 #23

Same sex marriage does not cost $400 billion R B Garr Apr 2018 #44

How is it a distraction? Its relevant to the way the attack is framed. JCanete Apr 2018 #79

It makes sense that you would not know what the R B Garr Apr 2018 #193

I've seen a study you've cited before and it was problematic. As lamen as I am JCanete Apr 2018 #195

Your thoughts are not even close to matching anything R B Garr Apr 2018 #196

how is that? I agree, proposal costs matter. All of the factors involved in those costs JCanete Apr 2018 #197

Your arguments make TOO much sense... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #211

Bernie didn't "lead" on that issue - he came around to it, the way most Dems did. LisaM Apr 2018 #66

When did Bernie ''advocate'' for SSM? Chitown Kev Apr 2018 #172

Bernie did NOT advocate for same-sex marriage rights two decades ago. He advocated for states pnwmom Apr 2018 #203

Facts are good things to use in these discussions Gothmog Apr 2018 #217

Nonsense. See post 203. We are fact based at DU emulatorloo Apr 2018 #238

Not nonsense... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #242

Go back and look at the Gallup polling on same sex marriage BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #286

I want to go a step further, actually. Guaranteed income regardless of work. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #53

I've never understood how guaranteed basic income doesn't get eaten up by inflation... brooklynite Apr 2018 #58

Works elsewhere Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #60

There's a difference between localized markets and a national economy... brooklynite Apr 2018 #70

Works elsewhere Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #72

Its nice seeing people I often disagree with here on the same page philosophically. JCanete Apr 2018 #182

I would go much further. The whole point of my existence politically today Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #249

These proposals will not work in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #83

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #7

$15/hour will undercut the union wage for many of those public works jobs. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #9

FDR used the NIRA to counteract the overlap between the WPA/CCC and unions LanternWaste Apr 2018 #41

It will give them cause to renegotiate higher wages. it will give corporations an incentive to pay JCanete Apr 2018 #112

ahhh, what has Bernie done in the last 2 years to implement this repeated $15/hr talking point? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #11

He's talked a lot. He's made, like, speeches and stuff. MineralMan Apr 2018 #21

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #25

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #89

But Will It Pay Actual Dollars? Me. Apr 2018 #12

How nice. How is he going to accomplish that? lunamagica Apr 2018 #14

The displacement of workers due to tech is a real issue comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #17

This is just as cruel RandySF Apr 2018 #27

I look forward to the day when a serious group of politicians (one cant do anything*, and you know Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #57

Or trump promising to bring back coal Gothmog Apr 2018 #90

OK, and can he guarantee me affordable housing with it? LisaM Apr 2018 #30

Do it like they do in the Nordic countries, but not now, cant do it now. Nazis are Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #59

I'm fine running on jobs for as many as possible, but I'm not for hyperbole unless he Hoyt Apr 2018 #31

Wow!! So now we're comparing Bernie to Fascist-in-Chief tRump?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #37

Well Sanders' and his supporters bashing of Clinton on trade did help get trump elected. Hoyt Apr 2018 #43

Bernie has been speaking truth to power for as long as I can remember... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #49

Speaking truth to power is almost meaningless if over a very long period of time one Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #62

Yes, like caucusing with Democrats... I get it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #68

On issues where you have support. But again, cant even promise children we wont let them die at Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #69

I agree he speaks against right wing BS. Problem is, he has no viable way of doing what Hoyt Apr 2018 #63

I wish people would use critical thinking skills and ask themselves why someone would Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #71

YOU are simply stating what most Democrats want - an explanation as to "how". tonyt53 Apr 2018 #87

Jon Stewart, Sam Bee, Steven Colbert and Trevor Noah speak truth to power more effectively ehrnst Apr 2018 #229

Not at all... but Rome wasn't built in a day. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #231

Rome actually got built, not just talked about and promised. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #233

It did... so we all have something to look forward to, exactly my point! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #234

I'll put my faith in legislators who are getting what they talk ehrnst Apr 2018 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #38

... LexVegas Apr 2018 #33

With what monies? Skidmore Apr 2018 #34

He might be undercut by a more robust proposal. UBI. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #35

That's a big fucking deal, and this is one area where I think Sanders is antiquated. I would take JCanete Apr 2018 #42

Some as recently as a couple of years ago have discussed bringing back legislation signed by Carter. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #46

One person; Of course that will prove it's viability MichMan Apr 2018 #114

No, its to get peoples attention. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #137

Good grief. honest.abe Apr 2018 #36

Totally unnecessary and will only fire his base. GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #40

Spot on... Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #101

So who is Corey Booker firing up? and what does totally unnecesary even mean? Unnecesary to who? JCanete Apr 2018 #113

If he is proposing the same thing, GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #119

unemployment rates are at a historic low but the job pay is abysmal. Arguably a decent minimum wage JCanete Apr 2018 #122

Did you even read my post. I agree wages are too low GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author mcar Apr 2018 #134

Bernie proposes something that has zero chance of ever becoming real. Yavin4 Apr 2018 #45

Yes. yes, yes. We can see R B Garr Apr 2018 #48

Cory Bookers' new big idea: guaranteeing jobs for everyone who wants one Donkees Apr 2018 #50

Booker is pandering to Bernie supporters Yavin4 Apr 2018 #64

Booker is a pragmatist, he will never be accepted by comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #80

so then he's not pandering to Sanders supporters...and believes in this? I can't follow you guys.. JCanete Apr 2018 #115

Of course he's pandering to Sanders' supporters comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #126

oh, I see. Okay. That is a reasonable theory, and I agree, understandable. nt JCanete Apr 2018 #159

It's called a "smart move"!! If Bernie doesn't run in 2020, lot's of his supporters... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #214

If he would get together with all of us and FIRST dedicate himself to electing ANY Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #65

Did you read this thread?! The ONLY one being compared to Rethuglians and Nazi tRump is Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #212

A guaranteed job with free healthcare and free college. democratisphere Apr 2018 #51

Free babysitting up next! nt R B Garr Apr 2018 #52

Probably saving that for 2020! democratisphere Apr 2018 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #67

That was what the Soviet Union did katmondoo Apr 2018 #56

And very little got done. comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #81

It was just a little different than this, on so many levels. But okay. JCanete Apr 2018 #116

Yet store shelves were virtually empty and restaurants ran out of food early in the lunch hour. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #144

I worked with the poor and unemployed for 30 years. This is impossible. Hamlette Apr 2018 #85

I'd be interested in seeing what interview you are referring to. I'd be surprised if Sanders, as JCanete Apr 2018 #118

Interview here: "Bernie Sanders admits he isn't sure how to break up big banks" betsuni Apr 2018 #131

Then talk to Elizabeth Warren..... she said, if Republican open up Dodd-Frank Civic Justice Apr 2018 #149

Banks are privately owned business. What authority does anyone have to break them up? Hamlette Apr 2018 #138

really? heaven05 Apr 2018 #92

GREAT job Rep John Conyers, and Sen Cory Booker!! Amimnoch Apr 2018 #100

Again? sigh Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #142

I beg your pardon re: Again?? Amimnoch Apr 2018 #146

Not you...again as in someone latching on to someone Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #147

Ah okay :) Amimnoch Apr 2018 #148

Thank you! SunSeeker Apr 2018 #296

Bernie has the current zentrum Apr 2018 #103

Precisely! Like most of Bernie's proposals, they first are ridiculed... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #213

Our Revolution is a 501(c)(4). That means they dont have to disclose their donors emulatorloo Apr 2018 #244

He's always authentic. zentrum Apr 2018 #260

Yes, but that's what scares supporters of OTHER politicians... sad to see. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #266

Yup. zentrum Apr 2018 #287

That.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #256

Yup. I've seen that too. zentrum Apr 2018 #263

Pains me to read... never thought I'd see that here. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #267

The rightward shift.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #268

You said it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #270

Recommended. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #104

Bernie "Pied Piper" Sanders is warming up for 2020. PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #110

Ideas are his strong suit. JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #111

Lawmakers never give him a chance. romanic Apr 2018 #150

The downside to being a Team of One. JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #151

Is it the chicken or the egg that came first? KitSileya Apr 2018 #200

So what is it that makes him an "outlier?" ehrnst Apr 2018 #222

And here's the irony...the fact that Bernie is "not one of them" is PRECISELY why InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #269

Everyone will be employed feeding all the ponies Codeine Apr 2018 #121

Ponies? Nah, we're all getting unicorns!! grossproffit Apr 2018 #123

Dus Version of ponies used to be gay marriage. Just sayin Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #157

I see what u did there..;) disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #257

I'm sure it will be as successful as all of his other legislative acts. FSogol Apr 2018 #125

Yep.... I designed one of these plans too... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #135

Senator Sanders "will unveil a plan"..... George II Apr 2018 #136

Leaders lead. Followers follow. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #166

Hey Aloha, Jackie.. from the article.. Cha Apr 2018 #188

That's a lazy way to propose legislation. If something like this is to have any chance... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #220

It's definitely no surprise. Cha Apr 2018 #221

I heard Corey Booker's plan already...I thought it had merit. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #152

"A chicken in every pot, a new Tesla in every garage, and FREE BEER!" VOX Apr 2018 #160

Don't tempt me...I won't post the picture, but the talk going around is.... George II Apr 2018 #167

Free kittens? TOTALLY ON BOARD! VOX Apr 2018 #198

Don't forget the free catnip!!! TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #207

Catnip is a right! VOX Apr 2018 #208

Works for me!!! nt LAS14 Apr 2018 #161

... mcar Apr 2018 #162

"A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or.. Cha Apr 2018 #170

Yes, I'm sure we'll see that any day now. ehrnst Apr 2018 #224

GODDAM KIDS THESE DAYS WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE!!! QC Apr 2018 #169

Either that or a non conservative version of UBI would be terrific mvd Apr 2018 #178

I read the 3rd paragraph three times and still can't believe it's not a Republican proposal DFW Apr 2018 #194

Yes, the devil is in the details TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #205

Good. Somebody has to dream big alarimer Apr 2018 #218

What good purpose does it serve to smear Democrats? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #225

Because it's the truth. alarimer Apr 2018 #311

Looks like bernie is behind the times all american girl Apr 2018 #248

K&R.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #254

Still my Faux pas Apr 2018 #258

America already tries to keep about 5% of Americans unemployed. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #265

Twitter Link: ... met with Sen. Sanders and his staff on February 8. His staff began drafting ... Donkees Apr 2018 #279

...and the end of homelessness, too demosincebirth Apr 2018 #282

well-intentioned but i think misguided in the long term 0rganism Apr 2018 #284

That's nothing. I'm guaranteeing everyone will win... NNadir Apr 2018 #297

The CCC and the WPA 2.0 gay texan Apr 2018 #298

Working to make the USA more pleasing to Putin katmondoo Apr 2018 #301

Last week's news snowybirdie Apr 2018 #303

Thank you Sen. Sanders Devil Child Apr 2018 #306

Yup, yup... you know what catching flak means!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #320

It's MY Senator - Cory Booker's bill JustAnotherGen May 2018 #314

Thanks for clarifying this, JAG. brer cat May 2018 #317

Democrats are getting it done! (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #318

A great proposal and a way to implement and pay for it. I hope all Democratic Senators.... George II May 2018 #321