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NewJeffCT

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51. I tend to agree

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:49 AM

Apr 2018

I think he has too many skeletons in his closet, and things that barely registered with Trump's with his daily scandals will be big issues for Sanders (tax returns for one) because that's just how the media works.

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I believe Sanders will win the nomination in 2020 [View all] NewJeffCT Apr 2018 OP

And I believe snowybirdie Apr 2018 #1

Right? Zoonart Apr 2018 #4

I don't see a counter argument there NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #13

No heavyweight ..YET! Wwcd Apr 2018 #34

I supported Bernie for President in 2016, but am unlikely to do so this time out. emulatorloo Apr 2018 #65

your description sounds almost Trumpian NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #73

I voted for Sen. Sanders in the primary last time and he won't get my vote in a 20 primary...none of Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #190

Nonsense, Hes the complete opposite of Trump emulatorloo Apr 2018 #221

Why do you qualify with you weren't a Sanders supporter? Cary Apr 2018 #89

The Democrats have a lot great talent right now PatSeg Apr 2018 #91

he may pull a Mario Cuomo NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #160

I don't remember that now PatSeg Apr 2018 #166

No way are Democrats leftynyc Apr 2018 #107

Boy I hope you are right! Thekaspervote Apr 2018 #119

I would leave the party leftynyc Apr 2018 #120

Somebody already did Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #117

Why do you assume that Sanders voters will all remain with him? brooklynite Apr 2018 #191

Good one, Cha Apr 2018 #38

They said the same thing about Trump IronLionZion Apr 2018 #118

You do realize that Sanders condone the booing of Congressman John Lewis at the national convention Gothmog Apr 2018 #2

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #5

Thank you Thank you Thank you, Goth! Cha Apr 2018 #8

He's one of the most hated politicians. 65million ppl aren't wrong. Wwcd Apr 2018 #35

Count me as one of the Democrats who will never support Sanders Gothmog Apr 2018 #109

Count me as a recent independent turned democrat who ill never support Sanders Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #124

There are many who see bernie & his entourage exactly as you do. Wwcd Apr 2018 #139

He can go ahead & run in 2020 but he'll get his *** kicked again by a girl. Wwcd Apr 2018 #134

Sanders got little of the non white vote in the primaries in 2016 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #10

Ha! Cha Apr 2018 #15

So you are counting on limbaugh's operation chaos II? Gothmog Apr 2018 #21

a lot of Republicans crossed over in 2016 as well NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #29

Crossover Republicans don't win elections for Democrats. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #22

There is no way that the base of the party will be supporting sanders Gothmog Apr 2018 #110

he got somewhere around 45% of the vote in 2016 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #168

He got that 45% thanks to a little help from Russia and not getting attacked by the media or GOP. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #173

If you think Russia won't try to help him again NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #177

He said his wife did his taxes and they had been busy, but he would release them asap.... MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #179

So you are saying he can win the nomination without the support of the Democratic base. lunamagica Apr 2018 #136

Yes NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #164

There won't be that many candidates for long. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #198

Sanders will likely get a great deal less this cycle due to the John Lewis stunt Gothmog Apr 2018 #163

Sanders would have to release his tax returns mcar Apr 2018 #12

I doubt that sanders will release his tax returns Gothmog Apr 2018 #16

I don't think he will either mcar Apr 2018 #17

I don't either. I always woner what is he hiding lunamagica Apr 2018 #137

I've only seen Maryland actually pass a law NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #19

New Jersey and California Gothmog Apr 2018 #30

Jerry Brown vetoed? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #44

Slippery slope Gothmog Apr 2018 #115

That's disappointing.. They're tax returns.. everyone Cha Apr 2018 #200

I agree Gothmog Apr 2018 #216

Regardless of states passing laws requiring the release mcar Apr 2018 #103

Those laws will be ruled unconstitutional. former9thward Apr 2018 #209

He can't release them. Wwcd Apr 2018 #42

They will show that he is very rich. Blue_true Apr 2018 #152

Although I agree with your sentiments about Sanders comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #18

Sanders may run and if he runs sanders will be very divisive Gothmog Apr 2018 #47

I certainly hope you are correct. Let's see who actually runs. comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #83

I am concern Sanders runs. Blue_true Apr 2018 #155

That is what I fear also. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #154

I agree with everything ecxept for the part where you said he isn't running lunamagica Apr 2018 #133

As a likely front runner, Sanders will get put under a spotlight. Blue_true Apr 2018 #150

This-he was never vetted and damn well will be this time. He will implode. bettyellen Apr 2018 #158

I hope you are correct NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #170

I will never forget that. +1000 Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #192

Tried and true loser unfortunately. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #3

Sanders didn't lose because of voting irregularities though! comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #25

Sir Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #37

Who is this 'they' that changed voting tallies? comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #41

Not a Democrat. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #210

Detroit votes weren't counted? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #48

see Wayne and Warren Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #211

Turns out, the only campaign that was 'rigged' was Clinton's. Wwcd Apr 2018 #45

He tried being a Democrat, and found it not to his taste. Orsino Apr 2018 #6

I don't think the Democrats are going to make the same mistake again. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #40

I don't object to anyone becoming a Democrat, perhaps not even to leap into the presidency... Orsino Apr 2018 #46

Yep. That is a huge part my problem with it, as well. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #75

That bothered me too. Chemisse Apr 2018 #84

I can understand his not wanting to be doomed to phone-banking for the party. Orsino Apr 2018 #88

So you want him to run as a 3rd Party? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #57

He was obviously unsure about his commitment to our party, and ought to run elsewhere, Orsino Apr 2018 #59

He was sure enough to not run as a 3rd Party to make things worse. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #68

I will support our party's nominee. Orsino Apr 2018 #85

Obviously... I'll never understand this "cut your nose off to spite your face" mentality. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #159

While both Hillary and Bernie are critical to 2018 and 2020, we need younger candidates to run. marble falls Apr 2018 #7

"we need younger candidates to run" .... Maxine Waters would be 90 at the and of her terms Exotica Apr 2018 #9

Damn. I've heard her on Rachel and other shows and I knew she was a relatively new Rep..... marble falls Apr 2018 #20

"she was a relatively new Rep" ....she has been in Congress for 28 years Exotica Apr 2018 #31

I am VERY worried about a Bernie run for that exact reason (divisiveness). Chemisse Apr 2018 #93

I am most worried that there is a total bloodbath in the primaries Exotica Apr 2018 #116

Bernie would never run as an Independent -- RandomAccess Apr 2018 #214

I would strongly prefer NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #23

Would LOVE for Maxine to run in 2020... and she's almost 80 now... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #24

Not to be ageist tparrett62 Apr 2018 #11

I do think... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #14

I sincerely hope not. I cannot take another 4 years of tRUMP. nt jrthin Apr 2018 #26

God help us all. Atman Apr 2018 #27

Lol. Tipperary Apr 2018 #28

What nomination?? The Bernie Party? Lil Missy Apr 2018 #32

I think he would win if he did run, but I don't think he will. bluedigger Apr 2018 #33

I'd be fine with that too, if that's what Bernie decides to do. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #36

We would lose the general. So I am not OK with it. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #193

Huh?? Why would we lose the general? Perhaps, you were confused by my response above... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #199

Sorry...I am just so afraid if he runs...we lose. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #201

2020 is make or break, that's for sure! Can't imagine what this country - & the world! - will look InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #203

More likely to see a unicorn.... Historic NY Apr 2018 #39

IMO, if Sanders wins the nominations, we will get four more years of Trump. Doodley Apr 2018 #43

I tend to agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #51

Agreed. And Trump's campaign would be devastating. Doodley Apr 2018 #71

Yup. Thanks for nothing. Wwcd Apr 2018 #62

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2018 #111

Fully agree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #49

If all my family and friends are a gauge revmclaren Apr 2018 #50

Just NO. Cha Apr 2018 #52

As one who has decades more years behind me than ahead of me, Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #53

I agree - Democrats do best NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #54

Im sick of threads about Sanders and Hilary YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #55

This is more about Sanders in 2020 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #58

Is he a Democrat? YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #63

Well, no Clinton YET! Wwcd Apr 2018 #72

I'm sick of people thinking any mention of Bernie Sanders has anything to do with betsuni Apr 2018 #70

Keep that divide going!! Wwcd Apr 2018 #74

Yep, my point exactly YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #82

Hopefully not. We need new blood and new ideas. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #56

I agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #66

Maybe if minorities don't vote. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #60

If the minority vote NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #67

no way DrDan Apr 2018 #61

Sanders is about Sanders awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #64

agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #95

Bernie, a Democrat of his own convenience, is largely respondsible for the Democratic loss democratisphere Apr 2018 #69

They fking hate him. And that's up to him to woo them over. Wwcd Apr 2018 #77

Agreed. democratisphere Apr 2018 #98

"BT" It'd be a familiar model anyway. Wwcd Apr 2018 #132

I am not a fan of Bernie, but I think James Comey had a lot more to do with our defeat. StevieM Apr 2018 #86

Disagree. Few thousand more votes in this state and that state would have resulted democratisphere Apr 2018 #99

Agree. And there were plenty of hands stirring the pot for the Trump to succeed. Wwcd Apr 2018 #102

I think it was a combination of diferent factors. Sanders, Comey Assange, Russia, voter supression lunamagica Apr 2018 #146

I disagree. Blue_true Apr 2018 #161

There were so many things that weakened her, but Comey made the knock-out blow. n/t Chemisse Apr 2018 #167

I see what you are saying, but Comey had already taken two devastating shots at her before October. StevieM Apr 2018 #181

I disagree. nancy1942 Apr 2018 #76

no mshasta Apr 2018 #78

So what party's nomination will he win? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #79

I give both Sanders an equal chance for the Democraic nomination in 2020 DFW Apr 2018 #80

I have not detected a huge dropoff NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #100

It is two years before the primary season is in full swing DFW Apr 2018 #106

interesting NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #108

I was referring to your post immediately above this one, not the OP, but while we're at it DFW Apr 2018 #126

What you said; good insight as always. No one in their right mind will actually say out loud... Hekate Apr 2018 #162

I was remiss in addressing one thing you mentioned DFW Apr 2018 #208

I will not support him this time katmondoo Apr 2018 #125

A hint of that huge drop-off came loud & clear when he was protested out of the building Wwcd Apr 2018 #140

Well played Hekate Apr 2018 #157

No tax returns, no nomination. nt oasis Apr 2018 #81

I am looking for Tom Steyer to be our nominee. StevieM Apr 2018 #87

Has he announced? still_one Apr 2018 #128

Well, no one has announced yet. But he seems like he might be looking to enter the race. StevieM Apr 2018 #135

I'd like it if he surprised me with a lot more energy RandomAccess Apr 2018 #215

I voted for Sanders last time but probably won't next time. Chemisse Apr 2018 #90

Sanders needs to go away Botany Apr 2018 #92

Nope. not going to happen Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #94

I hope you are correct NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #96

That will lead to 4 more years of Trump. grossproffit Apr 2018 #97

bullshit. Sanders couldn't change his party affiliation back to independent fast enough after 2016 still_one Apr 2018 #101

Has support for Sanders plunged NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #104

Support for what? Not for President, and mostly from his echo chamber or still_one Apr 2018 #122

Yes Gothmog Apr 2018 #138

Yeah, no. Yavin4 Apr 2018 #105

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2018 #112

If you think this is bad you might, oh I don't know, try participating in the primary process! BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #113

I said I did not support any candidate during the process NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #143

Sanders again MFM008 Apr 2018 #114

Bernie will have to release his tax returns this time. yardwork Apr 2018 #121

Will the 45 percent or so of 2016 primary voters NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #149

Some of them will, yes. yardwork Apr 2018 #218

Can't argue with any of that.... disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #123

No fucking NO! lillypaddle Apr 2018 #127

+1 Amimnoch Apr 2018 #174

I'd certainly enthusiastically support him again. He's my favorite mvd Apr 2018 #129

I feel the same way. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #165

Impossible to predict accurately now. You left out Biden bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #130

I believe a Democrat musette_sf Apr 2018 #131

I'll retire to Bedlam. nt aka-chmeee Apr 2018 #141

So you didn't vote in the 2016 Primary but you want to influence the 2020 Primary by giving us your politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #142

where did I say I didn't vote? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #153

UJhhhh. How about in the second line of your OP? You said that you didn't support anyone in 2016. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #182

that doesn't mean NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #184

I believe you are wrong lunamagica Apr 2018 #144

so the tax returns are on the way then? bigtree Apr 2018 #145

because tax returns have been proven NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #148

what else does his base not care about? bigtree Apr 2018 #219

I believe. Blue_true Apr 2018 #147

He's not interested in being President. His goal is promoting his Media Empire Wwcd Apr 2018 #151

Nomination in what Party, exactly? He won't get a second bite at the Democratic apple Hekate Apr 2018 #156

I truly believe hes simply too old lunatica Apr 2018 #169

Not only no, but fuck no. Adrahil Apr 2018 #171

You're willing to go a little farther than I would. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #175

Nope. Never. nt. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #172

I will vote for the nominee, but we should avoid premature assumptions & work for 2018 now. moriah Apr 2018 #176

not if I have anything to say about it. If he joined the democratic party, I might think about it. demosincebirth Apr 2018 #178

not as a dem he wont samnsara Apr 2018 #180

78 is too old Tarc Apr 2018 #183

I think we all need to chill. Focus on midterms YOHABLO Apr 2018 #185

nomination of which party? spanone Apr 2018 #186

Joe Lieberman for Senate party? eom Kolesar Apr 2018 #187

When he lost the Democratic nomination in 2006 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #188

I don't think so...he has burned to many bridges...and I hope not because he will lose a general. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #189

Lol grantcart Apr 2018 #194

i'm really glad you believe we'll still have elections in 2020 0rganism Apr 2018 #195

Please, no Bernie and no Hillary. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #196

I doubt Clinton will run again NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #207

Then I will no longer have a party. And Trump will win again. With the popular vote this time. ashtonelijah Apr 2018 #197

I don't agree.... chillfactor Apr 2018 #202

If Biden runs hes got my vote Loki Liesmith Apr 2018 #204

For what party? His own??? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #205

Long game Mrsmoodle Apr 2018 #206

Welcome to DU NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #212

Thanks Mrsmoodle Apr 2018 #223

You bet there is, welcome to DU! marble falls Apr 2018 #213

I suspect many of the 2016 anti-Clinton Sanders voters will abandon Sanders if he runs again. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #217

nyet. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #220

perfect librechik Apr 2018 #222