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54. I agree - Democrats do best

Reply to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #53)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:51 AM

Apr 2018

when they have a young, charismatic nominee

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Bill Clinton
Barack Obama

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I believe Sanders will win the nomination in 2020 [View all] NewJeffCT Apr 2018 OP

And I believe snowybirdie Apr 2018 #1

Right? Zoonart Apr 2018 #4

I don't see a counter argument there NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #13

No heavyweight ..YET! Wwcd Apr 2018 #34

I supported Bernie for President in 2016, but am unlikely to do so this time out. emulatorloo Apr 2018 #65

your description sounds almost Trumpian NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #73

I voted for Sen. Sanders in the primary last time and he won't get my vote in a 20 primary...none of Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #190

Nonsense, Hes the complete opposite of Trump emulatorloo Apr 2018 #221

Why do you qualify with you weren't a Sanders supporter? Cary Apr 2018 #89

The Democrats have a lot great talent right now PatSeg Apr 2018 #91

he may pull a Mario Cuomo NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #160

I don't remember that now PatSeg Apr 2018 #166

No way are Democrats leftynyc Apr 2018 #107

Boy I hope you are right! Thekaspervote Apr 2018 #119

I would leave the party leftynyc Apr 2018 #120

Somebody already did Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #117

Why do you assume that Sanders voters will all remain with him? brooklynite Apr 2018 #191

Good one, Cha Apr 2018 #38

They said the same thing about Trump IronLionZion Apr 2018 #118

You do realize that Sanders condone the booing of Congressman John Lewis at the national convention Gothmog Apr 2018 #2

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #5

Thank you Thank you Thank you, Goth! Cha Apr 2018 #8

He's one of the most hated politicians. 65million ppl aren't wrong. Wwcd Apr 2018 #35

Count me as one of the Democrats who will never support Sanders Gothmog Apr 2018 #109

Count me as a recent independent turned democrat who ill never support Sanders Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #124

There are many who see bernie & his entourage exactly as you do. Wwcd Apr 2018 #139

He can go ahead & run in 2020 but he'll get his *** kicked again by a girl. Wwcd Apr 2018 #134

Sanders got little of the non white vote in the primaries in 2016 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #10

Ha! Cha Apr 2018 #15

So you are counting on limbaugh's operation chaos II? Gothmog Apr 2018 #21

a lot of Republicans crossed over in 2016 as well NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #29

Crossover Republicans don't win elections for Democrats. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #22

There is no way that the base of the party will be supporting sanders Gothmog Apr 2018 #110

he got somewhere around 45% of the vote in 2016 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #168

He got that 45% thanks to a little help from Russia and not getting attacked by the media or GOP. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #173

If you think Russia won't try to help him again NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #177

He said his wife did his taxes and they had been busy, but he would release them asap.... MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #179

So you are saying he can win the nomination without the support of the Democratic base. lunamagica Apr 2018 #136

Yes NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #164

There won't be that many candidates for long. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #198

Sanders will likely get a great deal less this cycle due to the John Lewis stunt Gothmog Apr 2018 #163

Sanders would have to release his tax returns mcar Apr 2018 #12

I doubt that sanders will release his tax returns Gothmog Apr 2018 #16

I don't think he will either mcar Apr 2018 #17

I don't either. I always woner what is he hiding lunamagica Apr 2018 #137

I've only seen Maryland actually pass a law NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #19

New Jersey and California Gothmog Apr 2018 #30

Jerry Brown vetoed? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #44

Slippery slope Gothmog Apr 2018 #115

That's disappointing.. They're tax returns.. everyone Cha Apr 2018 #200

I agree Gothmog Apr 2018 #216

Regardless of states passing laws requiring the release mcar Apr 2018 #103

Those laws will be ruled unconstitutional. former9thward Apr 2018 #209

He can't release them. Wwcd Apr 2018 #42

They will show that he is very rich. Blue_true Apr 2018 #152

Although I agree with your sentiments about Sanders comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #18

Sanders may run and if he runs sanders will be very divisive Gothmog Apr 2018 #47

I certainly hope you are correct. Let's see who actually runs. comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #83

I am concern Sanders runs. Blue_true Apr 2018 #155

That is what I fear also. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #154

I agree with everything ecxept for the part where you said he isn't running lunamagica Apr 2018 #133

As a likely front runner, Sanders will get put under a spotlight. Blue_true Apr 2018 #150

This-he was never vetted and damn well will be this time. He will implode. bettyellen Apr 2018 #158

I hope you are correct NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #170

I will never forget that. +1000 Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #192

Tried and true loser unfortunately. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #3

Sanders didn't lose because of voting irregularities though! comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #25

Sir Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #37

Who is this 'they' that changed voting tallies? comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #41

Not a Democrat. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #210

Detroit votes weren't counted? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #48

see Wayne and Warren Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #211

Turns out, the only campaign that was 'rigged' was Clinton's. Wwcd Apr 2018 #45

He tried being a Democrat, and found it not to his taste. Orsino Apr 2018 #6

I don't think the Democrats are going to make the same mistake again. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #40

I don't object to anyone becoming a Democrat, perhaps not even to leap into the presidency... Orsino Apr 2018 #46

Yep. That is a huge part my problem with it, as well. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #75

That bothered me too. Chemisse Apr 2018 #84

I can understand his not wanting to be doomed to phone-banking for the party. Orsino Apr 2018 #88

So you want him to run as a 3rd Party? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #57

He was obviously unsure about his commitment to our party, and ought to run elsewhere, Orsino Apr 2018 #59

He was sure enough to not run as a 3rd Party to make things worse. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #68

I will support our party's nominee. Orsino Apr 2018 #85

Obviously... I'll never understand this "cut your nose off to spite your face" mentality. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #159

While both Hillary and Bernie are critical to 2018 and 2020, we need younger candidates to run. marble falls Apr 2018 #7

"we need younger candidates to run" .... Maxine Waters would be 90 at the and of her terms Exotica Apr 2018 #9

Damn. I've heard her on Rachel and other shows and I knew she was a relatively new Rep..... marble falls Apr 2018 #20

"she was a relatively new Rep" ....she has been in Congress for 28 years Exotica Apr 2018 #31

I am VERY worried about a Bernie run for that exact reason (divisiveness). Chemisse Apr 2018 #93

I am most worried that there is a total bloodbath in the primaries Exotica Apr 2018 #116

Bernie would never run as an Independent -- RandomAccess Apr 2018 #214

I would strongly prefer NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #23

Would LOVE for Maxine to run in 2020... and she's almost 80 now... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #24

Not to be ageist tparrett62 Apr 2018 #11

I do think... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #14

I sincerely hope not. I cannot take another 4 years of tRUMP. nt jrthin Apr 2018 #26

God help us all. Atman Apr 2018 #27

Lol. Tipperary Apr 2018 #28

What nomination?? The Bernie Party? Lil Missy Apr 2018 #32

I think he would win if he did run, but I don't think he will. bluedigger Apr 2018 #33

I'd be fine with that too, if that's what Bernie decides to do. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #36

We would lose the general. So I am not OK with it. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #193

Huh?? Why would we lose the general? Perhaps, you were confused by my response above... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #199

Sorry...I am just so afraid if he runs...we lose. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #201

2020 is make or break, that's for sure! Can't imagine what this country - & the world! - will look InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #203

More likely to see a unicorn.... Historic NY Apr 2018 #39

IMO, if Sanders wins the nominations, we will get four more years of Trump. Doodley Apr 2018 #43

I tend to agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #51

Agreed. And Trump's campaign would be devastating. Doodley Apr 2018 #71

Yup. Thanks for nothing. Wwcd Apr 2018 #62

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2018 #111

Fully agree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #49

If all my family and friends are a gauge revmclaren Apr 2018 #50

Just NO. Cha Apr 2018 #52

As one who has decades more years behind me than ahead of me, Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #53

I agree - Democrats do best NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #54

Im sick of threads about Sanders and Hilary YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #55

This is more about Sanders in 2020 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #58

Is he a Democrat? YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #63

Well, no Clinton YET! Wwcd Apr 2018 #72

I'm sick of people thinking any mention of Bernie Sanders has anything to do with betsuni Apr 2018 #70

Keep that divide going!! Wwcd Apr 2018 #74

Yep, my point exactly YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #82

Hopefully not. We need new blood and new ideas. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #56

I agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #66

Maybe if minorities don't vote. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #60

If the minority vote NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #67

no way DrDan Apr 2018 #61

Sanders is about Sanders awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #64

agree NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #95

Bernie, a Democrat of his own convenience, is largely respondsible for the Democratic loss democratisphere Apr 2018 #69

They fking hate him. And that's up to him to woo them over. Wwcd Apr 2018 #77

Agreed. democratisphere Apr 2018 #98

"BT" It'd be a familiar model anyway. Wwcd Apr 2018 #132

I am not a fan of Bernie, but I think James Comey had a lot more to do with our defeat. StevieM Apr 2018 #86

Disagree. Few thousand more votes in this state and that state would have resulted democratisphere Apr 2018 #99

Agree. And there were plenty of hands stirring the pot for the Trump to succeed. Wwcd Apr 2018 #102

I think it was a combination of diferent factors. Sanders, Comey Assange, Russia, voter supression lunamagica Apr 2018 #146

I disagree. Blue_true Apr 2018 #161

There were so many things that weakened her, but Comey made the knock-out blow. n/t Chemisse Apr 2018 #167

I see what you are saying, but Comey had already taken two devastating shots at her before October. StevieM Apr 2018 #181

I disagree. nancy1942 Apr 2018 #76

no mshasta Apr 2018 #78

So what party's nomination will he win? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #79

I give both Sanders an equal chance for the Democraic nomination in 2020 DFW Apr 2018 #80

I have not detected a huge dropoff NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #100

It is two years before the primary season is in full swing DFW Apr 2018 #106

interesting NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #108

I was referring to your post immediately above this one, not the OP, but while we're at it DFW Apr 2018 #126

What you said; good insight as always. No one in their right mind will actually say out loud... Hekate Apr 2018 #162

I was remiss in addressing one thing you mentioned DFW Apr 2018 #208

I will not support him this time katmondoo Apr 2018 #125

A hint of that huge drop-off came loud & clear when he was protested out of the building Wwcd Apr 2018 #140

Well played Hekate Apr 2018 #157

No tax returns, no nomination. nt oasis Apr 2018 #81

I am looking for Tom Steyer to be our nominee. StevieM Apr 2018 #87

Has he announced? still_one Apr 2018 #128

Well, no one has announced yet. But he seems like he might be looking to enter the race. StevieM Apr 2018 #135

I'd like it if he surprised me with a lot more energy RandomAccess Apr 2018 #215

I voted for Sanders last time but probably won't next time. Chemisse Apr 2018 #90

Sanders needs to go away Botany Apr 2018 #92

Nope. not going to happen Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #94

I hope you are correct NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #96

That will lead to 4 more years of Trump. grossproffit Apr 2018 #97

bullshit. Sanders couldn't change his party affiliation back to independent fast enough after 2016 still_one Apr 2018 #101

Has support for Sanders plunged NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #104

Support for what? Not for President, and mostly from his echo chamber or still_one Apr 2018 #122

Yes Gothmog Apr 2018 #138

Yeah, no. Yavin4 Apr 2018 #105

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2018 #112

If you think this is bad you might, oh I don't know, try participating in the primary process! BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #113

I said I did not support any candidate during the process NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #143

Sanders again MFM008 Apr 2018 #114

Bernie will have to release his tax returns this time. yardwork Apr 2018 #121

Will the 45 percent or so of 2016 primary voters NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #149

Some of them will, yes. yardwork Apr 2018 #218

Can't argue with any of that.... disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #123

No fucking NO! lillypaddle Apr 2018 #127

+1 Amimnoch Apr 2018 #174

I'd certainly enthusiastically support him again. He's my favorite mvd Apr 2018 #129

I feel the same way. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #165

Impossible to predict accurately now. You left out Biden bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #130

I believe a Democrat musette_sf Apr 2018 #131

I'll retire to Bedlam. nt aka-chmeee Apr 2018 #141

So you didn't vote in the 2016 Primary but you want to influence the 2020 Primary by giving us your politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #142

where did I say I didn't vote? NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #153

UJhhhh. How about in the second line of your OP? You said that you didn't support anyone in 2016. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #182

that doesn't mean NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #184

I believe you are wrong lunamagica Apr 2018 #144

so the tax returns are on the way then? bigtree Apr 2018 #145

because tax returns have been proven NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #148

what else does his base not care about? bigtree Apr 2018 #219

I believe. Blue_true Apr 2018 #147

He's not interested in being President. His goal is promoting his Media Empire Wwcd Apr 2018 #151

Nomination in what Party, exactly? He won't get a second bite at the Democratic apple Hekate Apr 2018 #156

I truly believe hes simply too old lunatica Apr 2018 #169

Not only no, but fuck no. Adrahil Apr 2018 #171

You're willing to go a little farther than I would. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #175

Nope. Never. nt. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #172

I will vote for the nominee, but we should avoid premature assumptions & work for 2018 now. moriah Apr 2018 #176

not if I have anything to say about it. If he joined the democratic party, I might think about it. demosincebirth Apr 2018 #178

not as a dem he wont samnsara Apr 2018 #180

78 is too old Tarc Apr 2018 #183

I think we all need to chill. Focus on midterms YOHABLO Apr 2018 #185

nomination of which party? spanone Apr 2018 #186

Joe Lieberman for Senate party? eom Kolesar Apr 2018 #187

When he lost the Democratic nomination in 2006 NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #188

I don't think so...he has burned to many bridges...and I hope not because he will lose a general. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #189

Lol grantcart Apr 2018 #194

i'm really glad you believe we'll still have elections in 2020 0rganism Apr 2018 #195

Please, no Bernie and no Hillary. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #196

I doubt Clinton will run again NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #207

Then I will no longer have a party. And Trump will win again. With the popular vote this time. ashtonelijah Apr 2018 #197

I don't agree.... chillfactor Apr 2018 #202

If Biden runs hes got my vote Loki Liesmith Apr 2018 #204

For what party? His own??? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #205

Long game Mrsmoodle Apr 2018 #206

Welcome to DU NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #212

Thanks Mrsmoodle Apr 2018 #223

You bet there is, welcome to DU! marble falls Apr 2018 #213

I suspect many of the 2016 anti-Clinton Sanders voters will abandon Sanders if he runs again. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #217

nyet. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #220

perfect librechik Apr 2018 #222