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FuzzyRabbit

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23. Divide and conquer!

Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:47 PM

Apr 2018

Last edited Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Reid is an important voice against Trumps and Republican's insanity. So even if only a few hundred thousand people watch her, her influence and example is important. You can bet other broadcasters are paying attention to her.

Therefore she must be silenced, or at least her voice weakened. And if they can get liberals to do it for them, so much the better.

Those who think her websites cannot be hacked should learn how the internet works. It is relatively easy, if you learn how. And you can believe that the Russians know how.

And to divide Democrats is easier than falling off a rock. Just put out a rumor that a Democratic candidate did or said something slightly wrong, even if it was years ago, many Dems will turn on them in an instant. Even if there is no evidence the Dem did it.

We have got to be more thoughtful, people. Just because something is on TV or on the internet does not make it true. Especially if something is on TV or the internet.

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I'm going to say something blunt about the Joy-Ann Reid story... [View all] brooklynite Apr 2018 OP

She's sure important to SOMEONE. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #1

Thank you. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #4

Yeah, but besides that, got any other proof? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #16

Given that she previously apologized for writing homophobic posts in that same time frame mythology Apr 2018 #26

So you post articles that are all opinion. Blue_true Apr 2018 #48

Occam's Razor is bullshit. padfun Apr 2018 #66

You want some Occam's Razor? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #70

Good point. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #86

I imagine Joy will "put it out there" when Cha Apr 2018 #81

If posts were uncovered in her blog mercuryblues Apr 2018 #139

Grand.. you've put together more evidence Cha Apr 2018 #80

Just summarizing what you & the other good people of DU are doing. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #136

Glad you did.. I hadn't seen Cha Apr 2018 #138

Exactly MFM008 Apr 2018 #121

Couldnt agree more BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #2

Shes on MSNBC every weekend, and is often the fill in host for prime time. Agschmid Apr 2018 #27

... BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #46

I dont watch her, hell I dont even have cable. Agschmid Apr 2018 #134

Yep Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #94

Good points. I dont watch her. I dont have cable. CentralMass Apr 2018 #3

You could stream MSNBC on the machine you're using now. rickford66 Apr 2018 #29

The problem with 24 hour news channels HopeAgain Apr 2018 #125

Some of us non whites like her. LexVegas Apr 2018 #5

Some of us old white guys like her too. TomSlick Apr 2018 #13

... LexVegas Apr 2018 #14

" H2O Man Apr 2018 #28

Some of us old white ladies like her too. I like brainy women, & Joy qualifies. nt Hekate Apr 2018 #39

I'm in the old white ladies cheer section for Joy radical noodle Apr 2018 #76

I'm right there with you, too. Pathwalker Apr 2018 #156

Some of us white little ol ladies Cha Apr 2018 #83

Me too appleannie1943 Apr 2018 #127

Some of us old gay white guys adore her. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #144

I hadn't heard of her until today. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #6

Yeah. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #7

Name one of the other better known black female hosts Control-Z Apr 2018 #69

I believe that's my point. (n/t) OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #71

And, an excellent point it Cha Apr 2018 #101

Wow, that went right over my head. Control-Z Apr 2018 #112

Russia proves that it is easy. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #8

Thank you TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #9

Anytime. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #18

They see what they want to see, sadly. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #49

Russian propaganda is very effective Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #96

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #55

Because she's a well-spoken, articulate critic of Trump and his ilk? Retrograde Apr 2018 #10

"Why does this remind me of the accusations against Franken last December?" brooklynite Apr 2018 #11

Very similar situations: Franken apologized for the fake groping picture, ecstatic Apr 2018 #42

+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #72

I feel the same way about the hacking of DU on election night GusBob Apr 2018 #12

this NatBurner Apr 2018 #63

It's tactic to demoralize Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #99

Yep. Scurrilous Apr 2018 #120

Joy is must see TV. She should get her prime time show back. Marcuse Apr 2018 #15

Yes, there are literally dozens of people watching BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #17

That's the same response Fox Fake News people come back with Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #98

I couldnt care less. BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #114

Yes you do Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #118

I don't know if Reid was hacked or not, but I can certainly see why she would be targeted. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #19

There would only be a wedge if there was a significant pro- and anti- Reid constituency... brooklynite Apr 2018 #21

Not true. The potential wedge (even if it was merely a media invention) would be... Garrett78 Apr 2018 #24

Most people of color and most LGBTQ people have no idea who Reid is brooklynite Apr 2018 #33

So what? peabody Apr 2018 #40

Great point, peabody.. I was thinking Cha Apr 2018 #102

Thanks! It's disgusting peabody Apr 2018 #108

They have their own agenda.. starting with glenn greenwald.. Cha Apr 2018 #119

And you know this how? Hekate Apr 2018 #44

Yeah, that was a rather bold claim. Blue_true Apr 2018 #53

Do you have any empirical evidence to back this claim up? tia uponit7771 Apr 2018 #56

Again, that doesn't matter. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #65

Very well said Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #100

You're working hard to ignore the obvious here. yardwork Apr 2018 #132

Divide and conquer! FuzzyRabbit Apr 2018 #23

What you said, FuzzyRabbit Hekate Apr 2018 #45

Thank You, FuzzyRabbit! Cha Apr 2018 #107

She also has a huge online following tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #20

It makes more sense JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #22

This LeftInTX Apr 2018 #57

Why would it matter if she was popular or not? peabody Apr 2018 #25

You may be underestimating... Whiskeytide Apr 2018 #30

Your premise--which is that she's a nobody & nobody would waste time hacking-- ecstatic Apr 2018 #31

If you read that paper, spoofing requires the attacker to have access to the original server Azathoth Apr 2018 #43

Here ya go, in case you're interested. But it sounds like ecstatic Apr 2018 #60

Unlike you, I'm not 100% confident either way Azathoth Apr 2018 #75

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #58

And that's *now*. Almost no one knew who she was back in 2006 when she was allegedly hacked Azathoth Apr 2018 #32

Why do you continue to assert the hack was in 2006? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #64

From the statement: "At no time has Ms. Reid claimed that the Wayback machine was hacked" Azathoth Apr 2018 #74

It is their assertion that the blog was hacked. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #77

There is no evidence of a supposed "breach" at the Wayback Machine Azathoth Apr 2018 #78

Please cite the claim that the hack occurred in 2006. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #85

Yawn Azathoth Apr 2018 #89

You've got nothing, then? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #93

I'm not the only poster pointing out the obvious to you Azathoth Apr 2018 #95

Why are you still arguing with me? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #109

Nice shift into baiting Azathoth Apr 2018 #113

Yeah, but those pages are in the Internet Archive. they were archived in 2006. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #84

I specifically stated that I take no position as to the validity of their claim. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #90

They have to be asserting it. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #91

I don't know what they're asserting. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #103

Except they've said they aren't claiming that the archive was hacked. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #105

They also said that that the timestamps were altered. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #110

They've made no such claim relating to the Internet Archive or LOC archive Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #111

That's right. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #115

That makes their assertions nonsense Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #116

And once again Azathoth Apr 2018 #106

It doesn't matter to them Azathoth Apr 2018 #92

Why does the supposedly archived homophobic posts have no comments Blue_true Apr 2018 #34

We are being ratfcked.Again.DU is "not that important" either, yet this site was mugged, vandalized Hekate Apr 2018 #35

+10000 oasis Apr 2018 #61

And by a number of posters who also went to take down Franken. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #73

Shes being used as a practice target. berni_mccoy Apr 2018 #36

Yup..they got Franken...they are going for bigger targets.. HipChick Apr 2018 #38

You think Joy Reid is a bigger target than a US Senator? BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #47

Just as DU was Hekate Apr 2018 #51

You didn't learn anything about how the Russians TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #37

I'll support her no matter what vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #41

Wrong. Everyone in media who opposes Putin's puppet is important. Hassler Apr 2018 #50

I vividly recall you supported Kirsten Gillibrand over Al Franken also rufus dog Apr 2018 #52

Figures hlthe2b Apr 2018 #68

This is very naive and just flat out wrong. R B Garr Apr 2018 #54

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #59

++++ hlthe2b Apr 2018 #67

she is a tough interviewer KT2000 Apr 2018 #62

I watch her. She is important to me.... Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #79

Remember how the reports about Al Franken trickled in? How do you know Joy Reid pnwmom Apr 2018 #82

I believe Joy! iluvtennis Apr 2018 #87

not many people know about DU and yet you post stuff trying to convince people of stuff JI7 Apr 2018 #88

Ikr Cha Apr 2018 #104

I enjoy watching Joy.... chillfactor Apr 2018 #97

Because it's devisive and ... GeorgeGist Apr 2018 #117

Why rob the corner Pizza parlor when there's a bank next door? Cattledog Apr 2018 #122

When you hide in an elite bubble... NCTraveler Apr 2018 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Apr 2018 #124

Yeah, hacking and crime doesnt work like that Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #126

Most people don't watch... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #128

She's not that important? kcr Apr 2018 #129

I just want to know which side is going to be wearing the tinfoil hats by the end. Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #130

To drive a wedge between African Americans and LGBT. And it's working. yardwork Apr 2018 #131

In the grand scheme of things DU isn't that important titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #133

Just a point here... Adrahil Apr 2018 #135

Evidently some people like her show #1 show for her time slot FloridaBlues Apr 2018 #137

Why would the FBI be involved if there was no evidence of what she claims? ehrnst Apr 2018 #140

Why would the FBI be involved? Because she asserted that a crime occurred. brooklynite Apr 2018 #141

So you are asserting that she would lie to involve the FBI. ehrnst Apr 2018 #142

It is possible that she was a victim of hacking, and also that the blog posts were hers oberliner Apr 2018 #147

MSNBC's Joy Reid Leads Weekend Ratings Surge - March 30, 2018 JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #143

Thank you for the report on Joy Reid's Rating Surge, Cha Apr 2018 #146

for someone not that important, she sure has the spotlight.. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #145

Yeah, it sure grinds some people down to a nub ehrnst Apr 2018 #149

I'll be blunt. Lots of claims here. Where are the numbers? Malikshah Apr 2018 #148

And another OP that will not age well. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author iamateacher Apr 2018 #151

Disagree. Why was DU hacked in the last election? Nt onlyadream Apr 2018 #152

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #153

Oops, didn't see your comment when I wrote mine, but spot on. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #155

DU, as much as I am a fan, isn't that important either. Probably less important than Reid. Yet... stevenleser Apr 2018 #154

She really isn't all that, I agree. I see nobody discussing this anywhere besides here and DailyKos m-lekktor Apr 2018 #157