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12. the snickers commercial? really? I thought it was cute, but yeah there were probably cretins who

Reply to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:51 AM

Apr 2018

would react. No reason to pull the ad, but what she said--did you take that to mean she felt that way or was just commenting on how immature much of the country was/is? The latter is how I took it...

The other thing seems to be about some homophobic basketball player. While the article appeared on her blog, I guess I'm too stupid to see where that shows Joy's homophobia. Seems at first glance, at least, that she is EXPOSING homophobia. What did I miss?

Her comments about Charlie Crist were deplorable, I certainly agree, but I thought she'd long ago apologized for that.

I'm just getting the uncomfortable feeling that this is not only targeted, but a runaway train, just as with Al Franken. I doubt with this level of uproar, she will even get the chance to defend herself. sigh....

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I'm a fan of Joy Reid - also a fan of the truth... [View all] Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 OP

Wow, nice catch. Also notice that there are no comments on that article Azathoth Apr 2018 #1

Interesting, but not conclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #57

If her lawyer was actually enough of a fuckwit to bring in the FBI she has bigger problems. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #2

She has plausible deniability Azathoth Apr 2018 #15

Again, she's already apologized for those post there's no reason why she would have uponit7771 Apr 2018 #53

Why did she apologize for hacked posts? Azathoth Apr 2018 #55

She's not, she's saying they're hacked ... damn, what am I missing ?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #60

You just said she apologized for the posts. Now you're saying she didn't Azathoth Apr 2018 #61

She's not apologizing for inartful post she didn't write herself, what about that is confusing !?!? uponit7771 Apr 2018 #92

She apologized for some posts about Charlie Crist, those are separate from mythology Apr 2018 #120

The fact that they brought in the FBI, knowing the risk, is a positive indication... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #62

Nope, she's not telling the truth. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #64

Okay, so maybe the hacked blog post was what was archived years ago. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #69

Only if it was "hacked" within 3 days of being posted. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #72

Which is possible to be hacked within seconds of being posted uponit7771 Apr 2018 #76

And possible for someone with an active blog to not notice a post they didn't write, themselves? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #79

Well, the large audience she had at the time didn't notice either which adds to her point uponit7771 Apr 2018 #82

it was archived three days after it was posted Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #83

Spider, it takes seconds to hack and seconds to spoof a post ... come on man uponit7771 Apr 2018 #84

Yes, but it's exceptionally implausible... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #85

It's even more implausible that no one else noticed the posting or she didn't get crap uponit7771 Apr 2018 #86

Because of her acknowledged history of homophobic blog posts re Charlie Crist? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #87

No, at the time in 2007 she had a progressive audience and editors that would've jumped uponit7771 Apr 2018 #89

She *admitted* and *apologised for* the things she said about Crist. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #91

Cause a couple of trillion people noticed, like they did in 2007 right? ... NO !!! Cause those... uponit7771 Apr 2018 #94

Here, in case you missed it Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #96

We agree on the date, looks like we differ on whether someone would've said something to her uponit7771 Apr 2018 #97

She was a little-known regional radio host with a little-read blog Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #99

Joan Walsh disagrees with that assessment about "little" I'll accept her knowledge of the Reid. uponit7771 Apr 2018 #101

Comments aren't archived because they're on a separate page. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #104

Not all comments sections are on different pages uponit7771 Apr 2018 #105

But these are. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #106

I don't see those pages being archived elsewhere I also give Reid TBOTD seeing nothing about her uponit7771 Apr 2018 #107

'immediate backlash against the Crist post' melman Apr 2018 #102

Relatively speaking yes it did uponit7771 Apr 2018 #103

So calling in the proper authories to investigate is an automatic sign of guilt? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #133

Joy Reid is not anti-gay and she apologized for insensitive inartful post of the past. Few if any .. uponit7771 Apr 2018 #3

We can prove she's lying Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #4

That's not proof she's lying when scrapers like LoC and TWBM pic up changes to sites that uponit7771 Apr 2018 #5

If the site had been changed then that would appear with a newer archival timestamp Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #7

You didn't post the blog inputs her experts says were spoofed, again I'm skeptical uponit7771 Apr 2018 #9

It's not my fault you don't understand how archiving works. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #13

I understand ad homs via condescension, usually a tactic when one can't back up a claim uponit7771 Apr 2018 #48

Here you go: Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #49

Link and quote her saying this was hacked, again ... I want to read it from her or her uponit7771 Apr 2018 #56

Right here: Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #58

Again, words she's already apologized for EVEN IF THEY WERE HERS. I'll give her TBOTD when uponit7771 Apr 2018 #65

Nope, she hasn't apologised for it, she's claimed it was "hacked" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #70

No she has not apologized melman Apr 2018 #63

Yes, that's true but for the latest comments that recently came to light... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #66

This is false on its face, she did apologize for post she's written in the past she has not uponit7771 Apr 2018 #67

What? melman Apr 2018 #75

Don't know what's confusing about not having to apologize for something she didn't do uponit7771 Apr 2018 #77

I don't think she's anti-gay anymore...I agree. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #6

I'm skeptical, you're posting about what she's apologized for in the past and not the post uponit7771 Apr 2018 #8

She hasn't referenced the post I mentioned... Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #10

Then she apologized for her comments in the past already, I covered that. Reid isn't Anti-gay uponit7771 Apr 2018 #11

No she didn't. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #14

Yeah, she did ... sigh uponit7771 Apr 2018 #24

Na'. She apologized for her posts on Charlie Crist. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #25

BULL SHIT !!! Her quotes right here !! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #29

My bad. I apologize. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #31

The issue is there were more post that came up through an archive search that are about uponit7771 Apr 2018 #37

She posted em, tho. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #71

She's saying she didn't and the FBI is looking into it, she's earned the TBOTD. I think that's uponit7771 Apr 2018 #74

Heres the letter in its entirety. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #52

Thank you for Joy's apology, uponit. Cha Apr 2018 #88

NP, Some are trying to say Reid is anti-gay when there's nothing about her that says such uponit7771 Apr 2018 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #131

the snickers commercial? really? I thought it was cute, but yeah there were probably cretins who hlthe2b Apr 2018 #12

+1, all of this noise is to claim Reid is anti-gay. The one thing I would've changed in the uponit7771 Apr 2018 #17

This is what she said... Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #18

Well, I don't agree with her assessment, but hopefully I hang out with more enlightened people hlthe2b Apr 2018 #21

She apologized for her Crist comments. She claims these posts were all hacked. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #22

Well, I'm going to give her benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #36

Reid actually apologized about ALL of her post not just the Christ one (link) uponit7771 Apr 2018 #44

++++ hlthe2b Apr 2018 #45

Heres the entire apology Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #59

seems pretty comprehensive to me, even if she chose the Crist issue to focus on... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #78

IKR !! At this point it looks like some are just pushing some true bullshit uponit7771 Apr 2018 #80

+1, she apologized and moved on. They're working overtime to present her as anti-gay uponit7771 Apr 2018 #26

Wow melman Apr 2018 #16

Sigh, there's no claim of hacking the post in the OP and the OP hasn't posted what uponit7771 Apr 2018 #19

Why are you so eager to see a liberal peabody Apr 2018 #20

I don't accept your framing melman Apr 2018 #23

Even after she apologized for them, Reid is not anti-gay ... uponit7771 Apr 2018 #30

Don't be sorry; just face peabody Apr 2018 #35

You notice the excitement. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #129

I'm as non-homophobic as a man could be ... in fact, I've smoked a pole or two on occasion ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #27

Are you repulsed by two men kissing? Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #28

She's saying AMERICANS are repulsed by it, why throw this bullshit ass'd shade?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #32

lol no she's not. She's definitely including herself among those. Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #34

In the Hardaway post not the second one of two men kissing. I don't see where she said ".. I..." uponit7771 Apr 2018 #39

She said she couldn't watch Brokeback Mountain... Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #68

People can desire ... or NOT desire ... to watch certain intimate acts ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #93

I do not want to watch two males having sex ......... stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #126

I clarified in my edit, and the answer is ... yeah ... more or less. mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #33

+1, I don't like movies where black men are sexualized by white women or teenage sex uponit7771 Apr 2018 #42

Exactly. We all 'have our things we don't especially care to watch' but that doesn't mean ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #51

RIGHT !!! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #73

I can't answer your question, but too much PDA hlthe2b Apr 2018 #38

Sorry ... maybe I went too far in establishing my bona-fides ;) mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #40

Oh,hell I can talk about anything. It is sitting there with no where to look except to stare... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #41

Fair enough ... what I'm really getting at is it's a far cry from 'homophobia' for someone to say .. mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #46

I get your point... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #47

Glad we agree in the end :) (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #54

Yesterday's papers tirebiter Apr 2018 #43

I'm Tired bluestateboomer Apr 2018 #50

Besides my other random ramblings on this thread can I just say ... I've known a lot of women ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #81

She is NOT saying they are all fake. She is saying some were altered. pnwmom Apr 2018 #95

Seems to me like Putin is winning, again ... (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #98

The claim is "screenshot manipulation" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #100

It's sad that she appears to be lying janterry Apr 2018 #109

SOME archived versions could have been manipulated, too. The one claim doesn't exclude the other. pnwmom Apr 2018 #110

There are timestamps of the date of archival. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #112

In view of everything that's happened this year, including the alteration of the DNC emails, pnwmom Apr 2018 #113

The second alternative is not, in fact plausible Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #114

There is nothing implausible about the idea that Russian hackers could embellish and alter pnwmom Apr 2018 #115

So could the fact that casual homophobia was more acceptable a decade ago Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #116

That's a dead link. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #117

Works fine for me. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #118

This is the message I get. pnwmom Apr 2018 #121

Works for me too. progressoid Apr 2018 #130

It's obvious to me that there was no hack. Captain Stern Apr 2018 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Apr 2018 #108

Here's my surprised face... Adrahil Apr 2018 #127

Ikr.. You saw it was Cha Apr 2018 #128

Could it be Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #111

What would it take for people to believe these posts were not hacked? oberliner Apr 2018 #119

The network says they've turned info over to the FBI, which is investigating. pnwmom Apr 2018 #122

The FBI will probably say nothing oberliner Apr 2018 #123

If they indict someone they will. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #124

Ask why now? Why her? Adrahil Apr 2018 #125

He is my 2nd favorite Celtic of all time. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #132

A hacker could see some comments and then treestar Apr 2018 #134

Because she is not claiming all are hacks mercuryblues Apr 2018 #136

And the DU post date is the SAME as Joy Reid's post date. scipan Apr 2018 #137