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116. That makes their assertions nonsense

Reply to OilemFirchen (Reply #115)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:03 AM

Apr 2018

because the relevant blog posts were archived over a dozen years ago, with timestamps of their archive date.

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I'm going to say something blunt about the Joy-Ann Reid story... [View all] brooklynite Apr 2018 OP

She's sure important to SOMEONE. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #1

Thank you. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #4

Yeah, but besides that, got any other proof? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #16

Given that she previously apologized for writing homophobic posts in that same time frame mythology Apr 2018 #26

So you post articles that are all opinion. Blue_true Apr 2018 #48

Occam's Razor is bullshit. padfun Apr 2018 #66

You want some Occam's Razor? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #70

Good point. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #86

I imagine Joy will "put it out there" when Cha Apr 2018 #81

If posts were uncovered in her blog mercuryblues Apr 2018 #139

Grand.. you've put together more evidence Cha Apr 2018 #80

Just summarizing what you & the other good people of DU are doing. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #136

Glad you did.. I hadn't seen Cha Apr 2018 #138

Exactly MFM008 Apr 2018 #121

Couldnt agree more BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #2

Shes on MSNBC every weekend, and is often the fill in host for prime time. Agschmid Apr 2018 #27

... BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #46

I dont watch her, hell I dont even have cable. Agschmid Apr 2018 #134

Yep Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #94

Good points. I dont watch her. I dont have cable. CentralMass Apr 2018 #3

You could stream MSNBC on the machine you're using now. rickford66 Apr 2018 #29

The problem with 24 hour news channels HopeAgain Apr 2018 #125

Some of us non whites like her. LexVegas Apr 2018 #5

Some of us old white guys like her too. TomSlick Apr 2018 #13

... LexVegas Apr 2018 #14

" H2O Man Apr 2018 #28

Some of us old white ladies like her too. I like brainy women, & Joy qualifies. nt Hekate Apr 2018 #39

I'm in the old white ladies cheer section for Joy radical noodle Apr 2018 #76

I'm right there with you, too. Pathwalker Apr 2018 #156

Some of us white little ol ladies Cha Apr 2018 #83

Me too appleannie1943 Apr 2018 #127

Some of us old gay white guys adore her. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #144

I hadn't heard of her until today. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #6

Yeah. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #7

Name one of the other better known black female hosts Control-Z Apr 2018 #69

I believe that's my point. (n/t) OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #71

And, an excellent point it Cha Apr 2018 #101

Wow, that went right over my head. Control-Z Apr 2018 #112

Russia proves that it is easy. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #8

Thank you TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #9

Anytime. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #18

They see what they want to see, sadly. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #49

Russian propaganda is very effective Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #96

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #55

Because she's a well-spoken, articulate critic of Trump and his ilk? Retrograde Apr 2018 #10

"Why does this remind me of the accusations against Franken last December?" brooklynite Apr 2018 #11

Very similar situations: Franken apologized for the fake groping picture, ecstatic Apr 2018 #42

+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #72

I feel the same way about the hacking of DU on election night GusBob Apr 2018 #12

this NatBurner Apr 2018 #63

It's tactic to demoralize Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #99

Yep. Scurrilous Apr 2018 #120

Joy is must see TV. She should get her prime time show back. Marcuse Apr 2018 #15

Yes, there are literally dozens of people watching BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #17

That's the same response Fox Fake News people come back with Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #98

I couldnt care less. BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #114

Yes you do Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #118

I don't know if Reid was hacked or not, but I can certainly see why she would be targeted. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #19

There would only be a wedge if there was a significant pro- and anti- Reid constituency... brooklynite Apr 2018 #21

Not true. The potential wedge (even if it was merely a media invention) would be... Garrett78 Apr 2018 #24

Most people of color and most LGBTQ people have no idea who Reid is brooklynite Apr 2018 #33

So what? peabody Apr 2018 #40

Great point, peabody.. I was thinking Cha Apr 2018 #102

Thanks! It's disgusting peabody Apr 2018 #108

They have their own agenda.. starting with glenn greenwald.. Cha Apr 2018 #119

And you know this how? Hekate Apr 2018 #44

Yeah, that was a rather bold claim. Blue_true Apr 2018 #53

Do you have any empirical evidence to back this claim up? tia uponit7771 Apr 2018 #56

Again, that doesn't matter. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #65

Very well said Sugarcoated Apr 2018 #100

You're working hard to ignore the obvious here. yardwork Apr 2018 #132

Divide and conquer! FuzzyRabbit Apr 2018 #23

What you said, FuzzyRabbit Hekate Apr 2018 #45

Thank You, FuzzyRabbit! Cha Apr 2018 #107

She also has a huge online following tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #20

It makes more sense JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #22

This LeftInTX Apr 2018 #57

Why would it matter if she was popular or not? peabody Apr 2018 #25

You may be underestimating... Whiskeytide Apr 2018 #30

Your premise--which is that she's a nobody & nobody would waste time hacking-- ecstatic Apr 2018 #31

If you read that paper, spoofing requires the attacker to have access to the original server Azathoth Apr 2018 #43

Here ya go, in case you're interested. But it sounds like ecstatic Apr 2018 #60

Unlike you, I'm not 100% confident either way Azathoth Apr 2018 #75

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #58

And that's *now*. Almost no one knew who she was back in 2006 when she was allegedly hacked Azathoth Apr 2018 #32

Why do you continue to assert the hack was in 2006? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #64

From the statement: "At no time has Ms. Reid claimed that the Wayback machine was hacked" Azathoth Apr 2018 #74

It is their assertion that the blog was hacked. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #77

There is no evidence of a supposed "breach" at the Wayback Machine Azathoth Apr 2018 #78

Please cite the claim that the hack occurred in 2006. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #85

Yawn Azathoth Apr 2018 #89

You've got nothing, then? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #93

I'm not the only poster pointing out the obvious to you Azathoth Apr 2018 #95

Why are you still arguing with me? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #109

Nice shift into baiting Azathoth Apr 2018 #113

Yeah, but those pages are in the Internet Archive. they were archived in 2006. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #84

I specifically stated that I take no position as to the validity of their claim. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #90

They have to be asserting it. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #91

I don't know what they're asserting. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #103

Except they've said they aren't claiming that the archive was hacked. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #105

They also said that that the timestamps were altered. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #110

They've made no such claim relating to the Internet Archive or LOC archive Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #111

That's right. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #115

That makes their assertions nonsense Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #116

And once again Azathoth Apr 2018 #106

It doesn't matter to them Azathoth Apr 2018 #92

Why does the supposedly archived homophobic posts have no comments Blue_true Apr 2018 #34

We are being ratfcked.Again.DU is "not that important" either, yet this site was mugged, vandalized Hekate Apr 2018 #35

+10000 oasis Apr 2018 #61

And by a number of posters who also went to take down Franken. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #73

Shes being used as a practice target. berni_mccoy Apr 2018 #36

Yup..they got Franken...they are going for bigger targets.. HipChick Apr 2018 #38

You think Joy Reid is a bigger target than a US Senator? BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #47

Just as DU was Hekate Apr 2018 #51

You didn't learn anything about how the Russians TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #37

I'll support her no matter what vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #41

Wrong. Everyone in media who opposes Putin's puppet is important. Hassler Apr 2018 #50

I vividly recall you supported Kirsten Gillibrand over Al Franken also rufus dog Apr 2018 #52

Figures hlthe2b Apr 2018 #68

This is very naive and just flat out wrong. R B Garr Apr 2018 #54

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #59

++++ hlthe2b Apr 2018 #67

she is a tough interviewer KT2000 Apr 2018 #62

I watch her. She is important to me.... Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #79

Remember how the reports about Al Franken trickled in? How do you know Joy Reid pnwmom Apr 2018 #82

I believe Joy! iluvtennis Apr 2018 #87

not many people know about DU and yet you post stuff trying to convince people of stuff JI7 Apr 2018 #88

Ikr Cha Apr 2018 #104

I enjoy watching Joy.... chillfactor Apr 2018 #97

Because it's devisive and ... GeorgeGist Apr 2018 #117

Why rob the corner Pizza parlor when there's a bank next door? Cattledog Apr 2018 #122

When you hide in an elite bubble... NCTraveler Apr 2018 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Apr 2018 #124

Yeah, hacking and crime doesnt work like that Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #126

Most people don't watch... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #128

She's not that important? kcr Apr 2018 #129

I just want to know which side is going to be wearing the tinfoil hats by the end. Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #130

To drive a wedge between African Americans and LGBT. And it's working. yardwork Apr 2018 #131

In the grand scheme of things DU isn't that important titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #133

Just a point here... Adrahil Apr 2018 #135

Evidently some people like her show #1 show for her time slot FloridaBlues Apr 2018 #137

Why would the FBI be involved if there was no evidence of what she claims? ehrnst Apr 2018 #140

Why would the FBI be involved? Because she asserted that a crime occurred. brooklynite Apr 2018 #141

So you are asserting that she would lie to involve the FBI. ehrnst Apr 2018 #142

It is possible that she was a victim of hacking, and also that the blog posts were hers oberliner Apr 2018 #147

MSNBC's Joy Reid Leads Weekend Ratings Surge - March 30, 2018 JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #143

Thank you for the report on Joy Reid's Rating Surge, Cha Apr 2018 #146

for someone not that important, she sure has the spotlight.. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #145

Yeah, it sure grinds some people down to a nub ehrnst Apr 2018 #149

I'll be blunt. Lots of claims here. Where are the numbers? Malikshah Apr 2018 #148

And another OP that will not age well. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author iamateacher Apr 2018 #151

Disagree. Why was DU hacked in the last election? Nt onlyadream Apr 2018 #152

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #153

Oops, didn't see your comment when I wrote mine, but spot on. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #155

DU, as much as I am a fan, isn't that important either. Probably less important than Reid. Yet... stevenleser Apr 2018 #154

She really isn't all that, I agree. I see nobody discussing this anywhere besides here and DailyKos m-lekktor Apr 2018 #157