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87. Yeah people of color know that the propaganda is bullshit

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 01:42 PM

Apr 2018

But of the 30% of American fools that still support the president, most are white people. And a lot of them live far away from any black person, for example in suburban Michigan, and many are much much less involved in politics than we are. So they don't really watch the news, and when they do get any neews, they are heavily influenced by Fox and Limbaugh and Breitbart bullshit on facebook.

Dems are a big tent. Tolerance for diversity and support for minorities and LGBTQs and women are non-negotiable parts of progressivism. But within those principles and values, different groups within the Dem big tent can be reached on different issues. To reach the suburban michiganite, the most effective strategy is to expose the lies of Fox and other right wing propaganda. To reach the hispanic Catholic pro-lifer, a different approach is needed. Dems are a big tent and we should embrace our diversity.

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Fellow DU members please be careful judging Trump supporters [View all] Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 OP

The US isn't going to "fall into civil war". Agschmid Apr 2018 #1

You're absolutely sure of that, huh? whathehell Apr 2018 #38

Echoes of 1860. Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #54

We've had "echoes of 1860" since 1860. Agschmid Apr 2018 #93

Impossible to have echoes of 1860 before 1860. Sneederbunk Apr 2018 #98

And I didn't say that. So? 🤷‍♂️ Agschmid Apr 2018 #123

No, no echoes of 1860 at all. muriel_volestrangler Apr 2018 #136

I knew a Trump presidency could happen. Agschmid Apr 2018 #92

Yes, we all knew it COULD happen, but most, including you, I suspect, whathehell Apr 2018 #100

No I canvassed in NH, I saw what was happening. Agschmid Apr 2018 #122

I canvassed in Illinois and saw other things happening.. whathehell Apr 2018 #135

Trump didn't lose the popular vote by 10 Million. Agschmid Apr 2018 #140

Yes he did. He lost to Hillary by near 3 million and whathehell Apr 2018 #142

Not factual. Agschmid Apr 2018 #144

Factual indeed whathehell Apr 2018 #148

Fuck them...at only 39 % and the truly delusional ones much less..that is what jail is for...fuck Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #2

Exactly.. HipChick Apr 2018 #6

Those who support a racist mysognistic asshat like Trump even after he has show his true colors Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #134

Those who saw in Trumpy some relief from their economic/social misfortunes Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #13

Trump leaves those who get involved with him broken and bleeding in the end. It was always so. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #132

Trumpanzees are beyond the reach of logic or reason. They are not worth talking to or arguing with dalton99a Apr 2018 #18

There may be a few who regret their vote...but those still supporting him are scum. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #131

I will welcome any rump voter who now realizes their mistake and vows to vote for dems Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #82

I agree...which is why I sad before the election...there were economic reasons but now Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #130

I see. sorry Demsrule. Misread. nt JCanete Apr 2018 #90

A small percentage of that population would be involved in a civil war...which I did say in the post Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #129

oops...edited my last post with the apology..meant to send it as a new post. Sorry about the JCanete Apr 2018 #143

You don't have to apologize...I know you are always fair.. no problemo. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #145

The only civil war that will occur will be online...so no real civil war. But I hear ya. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #3

I'll judge the hell out of them and I won't give their Trump love the time of day! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #4

Same here! Different Drummer Apr 2018 #16

I think there must be an apology for those people. Lint Head Apr 2018 #5

I agree forgiveness is a must Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #44

I think you misread the post you are responding to. Squinch Apr 2018 #79

Nah manor321 Apr 2018 #7

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #72

Has donald ever hidden.. tonedevil Apr 2018 #8

maybe, or maybe their fear based idea they might get a new job voting for Trump Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #55

Someone who... tonedevil Apr 2018 #86

Those who voted for Trump did not have any problem with the racist, sexist, bigotry that came from still_one Apr 2018 #9

Nope, sorry! leftofcool Apr 2018 #10

if you vote for a racist you are a racist . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #11

+1... SidDithers Apr 2018 #52

Exactly lunamagica Apr 2018 #97

So if we're not nice to them mac56 Apr 2018 #12

just calling it as I see it Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #46

And so do THEY mac56 Apr 2018 #73

We don't get what we give and that's the problem. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #74

No we don't tazkcmo Apr 2018 #119

The only way to please a racist is to be racist like them. dalton99a Apr 2018 #14

I understand the sentiment, but I'm sick of being polite to these people. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #15

My sympathies. I guess I can afford to be magnanimous because most people I know hate Trump. Chemisse Apr 2018 #21

I don't know about a civil war, but otherwise I think you make a good point. Chemisse Apr 2018 #17

thank you Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #51

Realism Civic Justice Apr 2018 #19

We've been friends for 40 years. We have coffee once per week. 3Hotdogs Apr 2018 #20

awesome Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #57

If they regret voting for him, I can muster up some sympathy wryter2000 Apr 2018 #22

It doesn't matter how you treat them, they are not gonna change... kentuck Apr 2018 #23

Everybody is capable of changing. They need to come to understand the reason why they JCanete Apr 2018 #94

I do believe they hate the "liberals" more than liberals hate them, in general. kentuck Apr 2018 #107

Only after they a-p-o-l-o-g-i-z-e and beg forgiveness HAB911 Apr 2018 #24

Reality: "80 percent of evangelicals would vote against Jesus Christ himself if he ran as a Democrat dalton99a Apr 2018 #25

Kriced, they are not worth our effort HAB911 Apr 2018 #28

unfortunately alot are not going to change and theres nothing going to change that Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #59

you're better person than I am HAB911 Apr 2018 #89

Just like they don't understand me mountain grammy Apr 2018 #88

I bet a lot of those 18% of white evangelicals Mariana Apr 2018 #95

If Trump's tariff policies go into effect greymattermom Apr 2018 #115

I "judge" people based on what they say and how they act. xor Apr 2018 #26

I hope the division between the Trumpians and conservative grow Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #63

Fuck the trump voters. End of story. Paladin Apr 2018 #27

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #53

Thank you! Honestly, this "understand them" BS makes my skin crawl! "Suspicious" at least! nt Atticus Apr 2018 #108

From MLK Jr.'s Six Principles Of Nonviolence, G_j Apr 2018 #29

MLK is just so outdated and naive G_j Apr 2018 #43

your post was futher down the list Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #64

"You know the people he faced were as hateful and dangerous as any of today's "deplorables"." kentuck Apr 2018 #45

I suppose if you consider support for Trump an evil act. G_j Apr 2018 #58

He didn't hide his viewpoints. kentuck Apr 2018 #71

Nah. No thanks. MineralMan Apr 2018 #30

Any trump* supporters in my life already know how I feel about them Siwsan Apr 2018 #31

if you are soft on Trump, you are dead to me, period. Moostache Apr 2018 #32

Nope. No passes. Adrahil Apr 2018 #33

I cut no slack to Deplorable scum who still support Trump. oasis Apr 2018 #34

This is the way we would like to be treated. MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #35

Where did he go?? kentuck Apr 2018 #36

I've judged them and found them wanting. I will continue to judge them for their racism, bigotry octoberlib Apr 2018 #37

More "be nice to Trump supporters" advice. Aristus Apr 2018 #39

somewhere, right now, a "bleeding heart libtard" hating Deplorable troll is reading this, Takket Apr 2018 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author EffieBlack Apr 2018 #41

I'm So Sick of This Kind of Thing Leith Apr 2018 #42

It is up to them to start treating others with something other than contempt ThoughtCriminal Apr 2018 #47

I agree for a far simpler reason... brooklynite Apr 2018 #48

that says it all Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #68

exactly.You have to understand how they are thinking in order to talk to them, and that takes JCanete Apr 2018 #91

Agreed. KTM Apr 2018 #102

Am I really reading this on DU? gibraltar72 Apr 2018 #49

Anyone who voted for Trump had no problem voting for an open bigot... SidDithers Apr 2018 #50

Nonsense PJMcK Apr 2018 #56

You're fucking adorable. Are there cotton candy clouds in your world? nt TeamPooka Apr 2018 #60

well I do live in a state that legalized weed Backwoodsrider Apr 2018 #67

If a RUMP follower was burning on the side of the road...I'd pull over to help them. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #61

I live in deep red Trump land. xmas74 Apr 2018 #62

No and hell no!!!!!! Butterflylady Apr 2018 #65

Fuck the high road. I am officially DONE with the high road forever. alphafemale Apr 2018 #66

Exactly how Trump supporters were created. Belligerent Apr 2018 #84

9 post wonder...huh? alphafemale Apr 2018 #120

You can satisfy yourself by throwing stones. Belligerent Apr 2018 #124

So mass shootings and run downs are now our fault? JDC Apr 2018 #69

There's a different way to approach this. If we know trump supporters are pretty far gone currently, JCanete Apr 2018 #99

Cant rec this post enough. KTM Apr 2018 #104

Nodody said anything about turning our backs JDC Apr 2018 #109

Not left out intentionally. I should have imlied that somebody set the bomb. I say no quarter JCanete Apr 2018 #110

Trump is giving America a sh*t sandwich and 39% of the people are still convinced it is roast beef. dameatball Apr 2018 #70

I don't give a shit what the deplorables do workinclasszero Apr 2018 #75

I have no problem with those that have now learned what they voted for and are disgusted. RKP5637 Apr 2018 #76

You must be white and talking just to other white people EffieBlack Apr 2018 #77

Yeah people of color know that the propaganda is bullshit sharedvalues Apr 2018 #87

I really don't care if white folk want to reach out to Trump supporters, BUT EffieBlack Apr 2018 #103

Dems are the party of diversity and inclusion sharedvalues Apr 2018 #138

Diversity does not require the inclusion of white people whose interests are dangerous to minorities EffieBlack Apr 2018 #141

What you say is fair sharedvalues Apr 2018 #147

I take great care when judging them. CentralMass Apr 2018 #78

Trump supporters are idiots and racists Gothmog Apr 2018 #80

Nope. Squinch Apr 2018 #81

Focus on propaganda. They were LIED to by the right wing media sharedvalues Apr 2018 #83

Yep, decades of work has paid off. nt JCanete Apr 2018 #101

Bullshit. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #106

I don't believe the analogy should be the Civil War FakeNoose Apr 2018 #85

Nope. Sorry. They all new he was an anti-immigrant racist misogynist who mocked the disabled lunamagica Apr 2018 #96

Nope, not if they're not sorry for their vote. Lunabell Apr 2018 #105

This "if we're not nice to them they'll go full on Nazi!" line is a terrible argument. Mayberry Machiavelli Apr 2018 #111

Fuck them! maveric Apr 2018 #112

Yea, see their reason(s) whaveter they are (yea right, we know what they are) have already declared Afromania Apr 2018 #113

Yes! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #127

They have to acknowledge that their vote for Trump was a huge mistake first. Mayberry Machiavelli Apr 2018 #114

Fuck the racist pieces of shit MrScorpio Apr 2018 #116

Not everybody who voted for Trump was a Trump supporter elocs Apr 2018 #117

"Evolving" seems to be the thing so why not. jalan48 Apr 2018 #118

Fuck that! In my view there is zero difference between them and.... Bonhomme Richard Apr 2018 #121

Because of this marvelous thing called a secret ballot Blindingly apparent Apr 2018 #125

How do you forgive them for what they are putting this country through? liberal N proud Apr 2018 #126

They are supporting a traitor JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #128

Oh, boy. The old hold hands and sing kumbayah ploy. Vinca Apr 2018 #133

Trump voters have one thing that binds them together Bettie Apr 2018 #137

Look, every openly horrible thing he's said and pulled would have been the last straw for me. Mc Mike Apr 2018 #139

There can be no redemption without responsibility. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #146