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speedoo

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116. I agree.

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 03:25 AM

Aug 2012

Obama is not in trouble.

But I also think it's unfortunate that the OP has misinformed everyone about what Zeleny said, leading everyone to over react to what was actually said.

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Do you view Bill Clinton speaking at the Dem convention an act of desperation [View all] CatWoman Jul 2012 OP

I'm just hoping he doesn't try to nominate Hillary. Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #1

LOL... CherokeeDem Jul 2012 #5

Agree. I thnk it's a brilliant move. President Clinton is as close to a rock star as we have in SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #105

NYT Reporters are elitist idiots bluestateguy Jul 2012 #2

Silly elleng Jul 2012 #42

And for the benefit of their reputations with the Park Avenue cocktail party crowd. lunatica Jul 2012 #46

Um I actually spend a fair amount of time with the Park Avenue cocktail party crowd... brooklynite Jul 2012 #47

The only association I'm making is with self-appointed journalists trashing Clinton lunatica Jul 2012 #55

I'm not getting that they're trashing Clinton so much as Obama and I think it's bullshit. whathehell Jul 2012 #78

Not an act of desperation siligut Jul 2012 #3

This. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2012 #52

not at all!! grasswire Jul 2012 #4

The right wingers on Yahoo are always saying dems are "desparate" Jessy169 Jul 2012 #6

Yahoo Right Wingers SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #38

Very wise and principled????????? Bohunk68 Jul 2012 #73

Clinton is a 'principled individual'???? Ever heard the name Ricky Ray Rector? If not, coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #117

I heard that too Politicalboi Jul 2012 #7

No. Simple star power. JohnnyLib2 Jul 2012 #8

No. I think it is a call to more prosperous times. nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #9

It makes sense to show off the most recent former pres who was a success. Unlike dimbear Jul 2012 #23

Hit the nail right on the head-- snooper2 Jul 2012 #36

No way - KT2000 Jul 2012 #10

Of course the reporter is trying to create drama. That's what reporters do these days. Raster Jul 2012 #14

Seriously? No, I do not. I consider it an honor that an extremely popular former President.... Raster Jul 2012 #11

I know it is rare for Democrats to exhibit party unity Horse with no Name Jul 2012 #12

Hogwash. They'd be insane if they DIDN'T have Bill Clinton speak. DFW Jul 2012 #13

I didn't know that about Nixon and Eisenhower CatWoman Jul 2012 #26

The Eisenhower ploy was disgusting DFW Jul 2012 #106

Well said Gman Jul 2012 #34

I heard Clinton speak last year at a local college. xmas74 Jul 2012 #40

+1 JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #70

I agree I love his spech in 2008 too. Johonny Jul 2012 #75

New poll out today says Bill Clinton is popular with 2/3 of Americans. You don't let an asset applegrove Jul 2012 #15

I see it as Bill finally getting over 4 yrs ago marlakay Jul 2012 #16

No, it's smart politics. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #17

Drama for the "horserace" they think they need for ratings. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #18

Mr. President X 2 at the Dem convention an act of desperation? I need eye drops.. lonestarnot Jul 2012 #19

No. Bill worked hard for him in 2008. People will listen to the big dog. onehandle Jul 2012 #20

bill will kick ass and take names!!! spanone Jul 2012 #21

The only act of desperation I see here is that of the reporter nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #22

The Third Way stars are converging. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #24

If they could re-animate him Reagan would give every speech at the RNC Convention. yourout Jul 2012 #25

.... CatWoman Jul 2012 #28

I don't see it as an act of desperation, but I suppose one could argue that Bill is... Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #27

No; smart. elleng Jul 2012 #29

No, it's just smart. And the NYT guy did not say that. speedoo Jul 2012 #30

Lol, no jberryhill Jul 2012 #31

not at all. Hamlette Jul 2012 #32

If he had we might be saying Kalidurga Jul 2012 #37

Not no but HELL NO! It is as in your face as Barack could possibly be.... Dubya, Daddy and Big Dick Rowdyboy Jul 2012 #33

I like the way you put that! JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #74

Rowdy is kinda like that CatWoman Jul 2012 #82

This stuff just writes itself! They're such clowns.... Rowdyboy Jul 2012 #97

One of the best Presidents of my lifetime. Of course he should speak. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #35

Hell no. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #39

The score would be 23,000,000 to ZERO rufus dog Jul 2012 #41

Absolutely NOT! nt Raine Jul 2012 #43

He's spoken at pretty much every DNC in recent years Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #44

You are correct - stark contrast malaise Jul 2012 #45

I don't want him to speak ibegurpard Jul 2012 #48

Uhmmmm.... RobinA Jul 2012 #49

If Clinton wasn't speaking, the same reporter would call it a snub by Obama to the Clintons. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #50

No, I view it as an incredibly popular President being asked to speak at the largest Arkana Jul 2012 #51

Absolutely not. reflection Jul 2012 #53

yes Enrique Jul 2012 #54

It might be an act of desperation on Clinton's part but not Obama's tularetom Jul 2012 #56

Absolutely not. WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #57

It seems like the most obvious thing would be for the most recent Dem prez before Obama to speak gollygee Jul 2012 #58

No, not at all. H2O Man Jul 2012 #59

It was Jeff Zeleny Joanie Baloney Jul 2012 #60

spoke at every convention Enrique Jul 2012 #71

we have had dealings with Zeleny before rurallib Jul 2012 #80

thanks for the link, Joanie CatWoman Jul 2012 #91

Any time, m'dear Joanie Baloney Jul 2012 #94

Please, let's be accurate re. What Zeleny said. speedoo Jul 2012 #99

You're right Joanie Baloney Aug 2012 #113

I agree. speedoo Aug 2012 #116

I don't think it's an act of desperation. Bill Clinton has a very high approval rating right now. Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #61

If Clinton had not spoken or had been relegated to the first day, they would have said Mass Jul 2012 #62

Not desperation brush Jul 2012 #63

When you have the two best politicians of current times available, and one is nominated Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #64

more like veneration MjolnirTime Jul 2012 #65

Did you watch Ed's program last night? Major Hogwash Jul 2012 #66

A little bit, yes. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #67

Clinton has spoken at every convention since 1988 Enrique Jul 2012 #79

He's speaking in 2012 to evoke the economy of the 1990s. That's not a strong position Romulox Jul 2012 #98

before Bush, Jr ex-presidents always addressed the conventions WI_DEM Jul 2012 #68

Looks to me like we're flexing our star power. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #69

No. I think it's an act of party unity. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #72

To the contrary. It shows we're PROUD of our former President, pnwmom Jul 2012 #76

"Desperation" isn't even in Obama's picture. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #77

Unrec for concern trolling 33Greeper Jul 2012 #81

are you out of your fucking mind? CatWoman Jul 2012 #83

Have you seen anybody else react that way DevonRex Jul 2012 #88

He's a Democratic President who will speak at the Democratic Convention, nothing wrong with that. 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #84

The accusation is a swerve to detract from BushCo not attending the GOP convention. AtomicKitten Jul 2012 #85

No, I view it as a given, it's standard. W not at the GOP one is the oddity (though we know why) themaguffin Jul 2012 #86

The idea that it is "desperation" is a raging crock of steaming shit. He has spoken at the last 3. RBInMaine Jul 2012 #87

Absolutely not...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2012 #89

Desperation? To give a former President and great born campaigner a mic in front of the electorate? dmallind Jul 2012 #90

While I'm sure we'll enjoy Clinton's speech, because hughee99 Jul 2012 #92

What Dem In Their Right Mind Wouldn't Want Him To Speak.... NCTraveler Jul 2012 #93

Sounds like some in the media want us to believe that. gkhouston Jul 2012 #95

Seems totally natural to me loyalsister Jul 2012 #96

he's extremely popular, and Romney is using him in an ad. Not even close to desperation. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #100

I would hope that Jimmy Carter is also asked to speak and appear Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #101

Not at all. I have problems with Clinton policies hifiguy Jul 2012 #102

No way. Jamastiene Jul 2012 #103

An act of desperation ...? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #104

No, you hit the nail on the head about the contrast of Bush and Cheney not going. nt Incitatus Jul 2012 #107

People actually like Democratic former Presidents. alphafemale Jul 2012 #108

I like the idea BECAUSE... Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #109

Laughable. If he didn't speak then that would be making news. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #110

No graywarrior Jul 2012 #111

No- btw, I voted for him twice before I learned all about the DLC-today I despise the repeal of bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #112

I think Part of the Reason Clinton was picked is that Ted Kennedy is no longer with us JI7 Aug 2012 #114

Bill Clinton is larger than life, and is now rehabilitated. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #115