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stevenleser

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83. Pretty unconvincing rationalization that ignores the "why" of this situation

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:41 AM

Apr 2018

I’ve watched this stuff unfold for the last 3 years since Sanders originally announced his candidacy. The folks making most of these accusation on Sanders’ behalf are not interested in issues of equality.

Folks making antisemitism accusations here on Sanders’ behalf are folks I’ve never seen in the Jewish forum here and are folks who, once engaged, clearly know nothing about antisemitism or Jewish issues. Folks making accusations of homophobia are folks I’ve never seen in the LGBT forum here.

Again, these accusations are not being made to help those communities, and it is very troubling behavior. One wonders what would happen if Sanders or someone from his position in the political spectrum were actually in power here. Would his administration make a point of attempting to destroy his opponents this way once they had control of the security apparatus of the country?

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I've read a lot of dumb stupid misogynist shit on this website over the years. [View all] boston bean Apr 2018 OP

Exactly BB... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1

Still doing their thing over there eh?? boston bean Apr 2018 #2

Don't know what they post over there, just recognized some screen names... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #3

Seems the American MRA exported their shit to Canada. boston bean Apr 2018 #4

I most certainly DO remember that... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #5

What is "MRA" & "JPR" ? Alwaysna Apr 2018 #27

I have tried to figure that out for 5 min and can't. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #29

i think the ME part is "Men's rights" but I forget what the "A" stands for... CTyankee Apr 2018 #31

Agree! Sampan Apr 2018 #32

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #33

Deceased DU member, JackPine Radical had NOTHING hlthe2b Apr 2018 #38

If you say so... Callmecrazy Apr 2018 #43

I KNOW SO... as do a lot of long term DUers who knew him well hlthe2b Apr 2018 #45

WHATEVER YOU SAY...... Callmecrazy Apr 2018 #47

Most people here are not fans of JPR, yet you come here and say it is "better than DU" hlthe2b Apr 2018 #48

I SAID IT WAS NAMED AFTER HIM... Callmecrazy Apr 2018 #50

No one who states they think " JPR is better than DU in some ways" has ANY right to tell ANY DUer hlthe2b Apr 2018 #51

This is a discussion board and I'll say whatever I want... Callmecrazy Apr 2018 #52

You have no right to tell me or any DUer to post or not post, especially when you espouse JPR hlthe2b Apr 2018 #53

So if ''most people around here don't like it", everyone has to agree? whathehell Apr 2018 #68

So you go to your next door neighbor's house and remark on how much nicer is the neighbor's across hlthe2b Apr 2018 #69

Huh?..I've no idea what you're talking about whathehell Apr 2018 #72

No error here. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #73

Lol..Really? Then do show us where I "promoted" JPR whathehell Apr 2018 #74

Glad to hear that... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #75

Lol..I knew you couldn't prove your accusation whathehell Apr 2018 #77

Again, if you think the TOS allow for promoting that or any other conspiracy anti-Democratic website hlthe2b Apr 2018 #78

Again, you've failed to show my ''promoting" anything whathehell Apr 2018 #80

You need only search DU archives. I will not do your homework for you. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #81

Again, I don't need to do anything..If you're so sure I violated TOS, whathehell Apr 2018 #82

I wouldn't worry about that person, they intentionally misstate the position of the person they stevenleser Apr 2018 #97

thanks Steve... I had come to that conclusion... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #98

Thanks for answering. Alwaysna Apr 2018 #57

Thanks, that's it. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #41

First of all thanks for the link apkhgp Apr 2018 #94

Oh fuck that nonsense. Codeine Apr 2018 #49

Hey Codeine hlthe2b Apr 2018 #70

No it isn't better than anything.. JPR is full of CT Cha Apr 2018 #58

It is a nasty board that often supported Trump over Hillary. pnwmom Apr 2018 #65

Men's Rights Activist Freddie Apr 2018 #56

Men's Rights Activists and JackPine Radical Volaris Apr 2018 #93

MRA - Men's Rights Association. JPR - Jackpine Radicals. haele Apr 2018 #112

... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #36

I thought it was about mens rights in child custody cases sarah FAILIN Apr 2018 #42

much more than that. hlthe2b Apr 2018 #46

Problem RandomAccess Apr 2018 #55

Here we go again sarah FAILIN Apr 2018 #66

I agree on equal rights True Blue American Apr 2018 #84

I think it started there... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #59

I'm just talking about equal parenting sarah FAILIN Apr 2018 #67

What???? BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #44

My First Reaction.. busterbrown Apr 2018 #6

I a mostly try to explain, then when met with hostiility become hostile myself! LOL boston bean Apr 2018 #20

The notion of "outside looking in" is one I had never considered before. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #7

Looking in is a hard thing to do. It can create defensiveness boston bean Apr 2018 #21

Me, too. NellieStarbuck Apr 2018 #8

Not an easy thing to admit cause one might feel shame. But in that honesty you are free! boston bean Apr 2018 #22

You're one of the few people on this forum I actually give a fuck about A HERETIC I AM Apr 2018 #9

I really appreciate that! I am no perfect angel and will probably never be. boston bean Apr 2018 #11

This is the lesson A HERETIC I AM Apr 2018 #16

LOL!! boston bean Apr 2018 #17

... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2018 #19

I agree absolutely. I was not always a feminist. MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #10

+1000 For those of us who grew up in the 50's and 60's Stonepounder Apr 2018 #12

Nice post! So true. These times we are living are some if the greatest boston bean Apr 2018 #18

Yup. And more.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #13

I have done that. I am sorry. boston bean Apr 2018 #14

Thank you! I appreciate it! NT Adrahil Apr 2018 #15

Now that the FBI provided the Catastrophuck nickname for Orange Julius Caesar rzemanfl Apr 2018 #23

One could say that for some Turbineguy Apr 2018 #24

There are some voices that I really miss. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #25

K&R mcar Apr 2018 #26

I agree. I'm getting tired of this career execution of people because of prior things... Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #28

K&R from Florida... BlueJac Apr 2018 #30

+1 n/t. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #102

Well said. I have noticed the blog/entertainment R B Garr Apr 2018 #34

I like Joy Reid, for an msm tool she's OK. Mosby Apr 2018 #35

A simple apology is a simple apology. An apology given from the heart with an explanation as to why boston bean Apr 2018 #39

Pffft, this is an anonymous site, they could be back in already. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #54

Depends. If they committed crimes based on those vile attitudes, then no. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #62

she apologized and I think that's great Mosby Apr 2018 #64

No one is perfect from cradle to grave. leanforward Apr 2018 #37

Purists of any stripe ruin respectful debate lunatica Apr 2018 #40

Thank you for this. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #60

I am disappointed with Joy. But I am much more angry at the "why" stevenleser Apr 2018 #61

+1. Anyone who opposes said candidate, must be destroyed, at ANY cost. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #71

Yes, unearthing anti-gay statements can help. David__77 Apr 2018 #79

Pretty unconvincing rationalization that ignores the "why" of this situation stevenleser Apr 2018 #83

I don't see opposition research as a new thing. David__77 Apr 2018 #85

Thank you for confirming that this is how a slice of Sanders supporters view this stevenleser Apr 2018 #86

I am an Obama supporter. David__77 Apr 2018 #87

Yes and the sky is blue. Are there any other irrelevant pieces of information stevenleser Apr 2018 #88

The behavior of searching someone's publicly available blogs? David__77 Apr 2018 #89

The horrors. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #92

The alleged democratic challenger was a nut job Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #91

The nut job and prejudice are probably true. But again, a certain segment of Sanders supporters stevenleser Apr 2018 #96

So what? tonedevil Apr 2018 #100

Yes, it's miscreant behavior, particularly when it is directed at Joy and various other people as stevenleser Apr 2018 #101

I certainly think that... tonedevil Apr 2018 #104

How is it gratuitous? David__77 Apr 2018 #105

I love how you just shifted right away from the homophobic nutjob to Joy. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #106

Shifted from Joy? How about you try rereading the OP again to remind yourself what all this is about stevenleser Apr 2018 #108

Um Steve, you brought up Jon Svitasky. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #110

Um yes, as another example of what was done to Joy. There are other examples stevenleser Apr 2018 #111

So we are back to my issue. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #113

Do you not like finding and disseminating candidates' "racist or homophobic posts?" David__77 Apr 2018 #95

No, I don't like discovering that people are bigots. And I am not happy when thats a part of a stevenleser Apr 2018 #99

Unearthing anti-gay statements can help. David__77 Apr 2018 #103

what? Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #107

Reread my post again and see if you can respond to what I actually wrote instead of a straw man. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #109

Kick and rec backtoblue Apr 2018 #63

Years ago greymattermom Apr 2018 #76

Totally. If the person demonstrates growth, yes. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2018 #90