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31. No, he did not. I hate it when people twist what happened to suit their purposes.

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:52 PM

Apr 2018

He apologized, but stated that he did not harass or mistreat or abuse anyone. He said he was sorry that his apology, which was meant to smooth things over so all could move on, was misinterpreted as an admission of harassment, because nothing could be further from the truth.

Remember that the accusation against him by a twerking Republican who broke the news on Fox...that was before the "Me, too" movement. So he didn't realize what was coming & just apologized in the way that many apologize to smooth things over, while the ethics committee would investigate (he thought).

Also at the time, Democratic Sen. Menendez was being sued and under ethics investigation, but he wasn't asked to leave. I think that may be because Menendez posed no threat to those with aspirations for the Presidency or in the Senate.

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A fair reminder of what caused Franken's ouster [View all] wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 OP

A good reminder at that....Franken was railroaded - and Gillibrand added her two cents asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #1

Gillibrand led the charge. The others fell in line, including Schumer. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #24

exactly. n/t LittleGirl Apr 2018 #33

Yes Wiccan Priest Apr 2018 #34

Oh...I've never heard that expression before. I love that. Amidships. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #96

I'll never forgive any of them. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #41

100pc with you on this Alice11111 May 2018 #85

Does that include Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Chris Murphy? oberliner May 2018 #100

All of them wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #108

Did I stutter? Do I mumble? What part of "I'll never forgive any of them" was confusing to you? NurseJackie May 2018 #126

Yes n/t WyLoochka May 2018 #128

Harry Reid knows Republican tactics well. He would have shut down the Franken railroading. stuffmatters Apr 2018 #49

+1 Agree on Schumer lunasun Apr 2018 #55

Shumer failed on purpose. Tatiana Apr 2018 #56

Would Reid have shut it down? I hadn't realized that. What a bummer for us. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #78

I don't recall Leader Reid ever supporting the railroading of a Dem Senator by fellow D Senators stuffmatters May 2018 #90

Through that trumped up ouster of Franken,I kept thinking Alice11111 May 2018 #86

That was my immediate & constant thought too. stuffmatters May 2018 #92

Right...Schumer is the kind of guy who "falls in line". brooklynite Apr 2018 #82

Don't forget Warren and Sanders nt Trumpocalypse May 2018 #114

Oh, yeah. I had forgotten that they jumped on the bandwagon. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #134

Actually one of Franken's best friends says Dayton was the last nail in the coffin DFW May 2018 #151

With respect, that's not accurate. It went very quickly, just a few hours. Here's the timeline. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #154

I am telling it to you as told by my source, and this is the news cycle DFW May 2018 #156

I understand. But the fact is that he announced his resignation before the Gov namd his replacement. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #159

My friend will get a laugh out of "the Shadow" DFW May 2018 #175

Gillibrand added her non-cents! democratisphere Apr 2018 #54

Do you suppose she is catching on - or better yet have heard from her asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #66

Senators and Representatives from any state affect all of US with democratisphere Apr 2018 #73

As a NY constituent, and someone who pays attention to New York State politics... brooklynite Apr 2018 #83

I forgot about ALL the money in political campaigns...my point.. asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #84

Correct! IluvPitties Apr 2018 #59

Then he shouldn't have apologized and Trumpocalypse May 2018 #113

"fair" mythology Apr 2018 #2

Find proof that he apologized wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #3

I'm gonna take a nap. You can wait on my behalf. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #4

He didn't admit to mistreating them but he did acknowledge his behavior 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #5

Yes, he certainly can't deny that Tweeden photo wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #7

Two college kids can get drunk, engage in sex 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #10

Funny how the picture was floating around wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #12

I'm sure if Franken had stayed in office he would have been re-elected 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #16

Not just a progressive Dem but the one who got Sessions in hot water misanthrope Apr 2018 #19

Also Franken was also the Senator who outed Gorsuch an irrational implacable RW zealot stuffmatters Apr 2018 #61

The picture... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #45

Thank you Butterflylady Apr 2018 #48

Add to it that prior to that flap misanthrope Apr 2018 #69

It's subjective 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #51

From now on wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #57

We'll just photoshop pictures to avoid any hurt feelings 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #75

Don Jr.'s friend was wearing The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #50

Apparently that photographer's quote is fake wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #81

To Polack, fucking A Alice11111 May 2018 #89

I worked with a young man who had a sexual harassment complaint against him CrispyQ May 2018 #122

You have to be really careful about that stuff 94Mountaineer May 2018 #124

"The first thing I want to do is apologize" oberliner May 2018 #101

He's apologizing for the picture, not for having molested anyone. ucrdem May 2018 #103

That is true oberliner May 2018 #106

He did not apoligize wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #107

His wife is in AA and he also works a 12 step program Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #142

No, he did not. I hate it when people twist what happened to suit their purposes. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #31

And menendez's replacement would have been appointed by spooky3 Apr 2018 #64

Yikes. That's a scary thought. Sort of like a former Repub is now going to run for Franken's seat.nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #76

No, he did not say that. That was Gillibrand's interpretation Alice11111 May 2018 #87

I'm sure the DNC will tell painter to go pound sand, right? vi5 Apr 2018 #6

We can count on Dem elites to stick up for progressives wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #9

If Painter gets this nom.... vi5 Apr 2018 #11

The Gillibrand lynch mob wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #13

YEAH! Lucky you! BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #22

I hate sounding like a conspiracy guy... vi5 Apr 2018 #46

Those hoping that the dems will go bold, assuming they ever gain any influence again, CrispyQ May 2018 #123

That's o.k. vi5 May 2018 #127

One of the most comical posts I have read. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #15

Wait, did Painter join the Democratic Party? FakeNoose Apr 2018 #38

Jim Justice wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #39

He officially changed parties. BTW, he supported Franken. Alice11111 May 2018 #88

Painter iss a legend in his owm mind. Scruffy1 Apr 2018 #47

As we saw with Sanders, right now the rules are that anyone can run as a Democrat. stevenleser May 2018 #139

I would have no problem with that. vi5 May 2018 #149

You have a very low threshold of what you consider to be an attack or a bash stevenleser May 2018 #158

He will be back. Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #8

Just about everyone wishes Franken would have fought from the start. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #14

Franken was caught between a rock and a hard place wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #17

Agree and disagree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #20

To be fair wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #23

"He took the Senate investigation route before the accusations mysteriously mounted. " NCTraveler Apr 2018 #27

He put the party above a mudfight wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #37

He didn't consider the party. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #42

And everyone makes the right decisions wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #52

I disagree that there could have only been one outcome. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #68

Franken's only mistake wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #71

But it did look like he was going through the process, at least until he got stabbed in the back. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #18

Yes, if you define the process through such a limited scope as to ignore reality. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #21

Too bad Franken believed in the process n/t wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #25

Really is a shame he didn't understand the larger picture. nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #26

I have found that... pazzyanne Apr 2018 #63

I agree. Alice11111 May 2018 #91

So let's round up a lawless posse and hang'im from the nearest tree ? OnDoutside May 2018 #111

They can claim to have been... NCTraveler May 2018 #116

I don't think fighting was an option. ucrdem May 2018 #102

Look at Schummer right after. NCTraveler May 2018 #105

Schumer is a lawyer and did what lawyers do. ucrdem May 2018 #117

This is comical. NCTraveler May 2018 #118

For some perhaps. ucrdem May 2018 #119

minngal marieo1 Apr 2018 #28

Caused the ouster? I think sex can arguably be said to have caused anyone. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #29

Well now that you mension it.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #30

The real reason for Franken's ouster is njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #32

And trumpers basically weaponized this wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #35

They sure did njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #40

I guess chalk killing the Soul of the Senate, to Don, Jr. Alice11111 May 2018 #93

I wonder if my favorite situational ethics poster will drop by BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #36

I'm wondering the same thing. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #58

Who can blame him for leaving dreamland Apr 2018 #43

When you're right, you're right. marble falls Apr 2018 #44

It's been, what, four months now? mac56 Apr 2018 #53

They did it to shine their progressive credentials and get rid of a strong competitor. lark Apr 2018 #60

Yeah. It was all just so weird. Dems attacking the Senate brain Alice11111 May 2018 #94

Didn't Franken apologize and take responsibility? Renew Deal Apr 2018 #62

Yes, he did. Twice. nt scarletwoman Apr 2018 #65

All he materially apologized for wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #70

There was no reason for him to "admit wrongdoing" since he didn't commit any wrongdoing. scarletwoman Apr 2018 #72

You're right wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #74

"There's no excuse...I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate." oberliner May 2018 #99

No. Alice11111 May 2018 #95

Al Franken apologizes for sexual misconduct allegations oberliner May 2018 #97

No he didn't...that was after the USO thing which I think was ridiculous...there is no way what Demsrule86 May 2018 #109

100% documented, what you said there. No, Al Franken did nothing, absolutely nothing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #67

Read Al Franken's apology following accusation of groping and kissing without consent oberliner May 2018 #98

The usual suspects are now twisting Franken's words even though John Fante May 2018 #104

I am often surprised also...the GOP calls the tune and they dance around. Demsrule86 May 2018 #110

What posters are pushing a conservative agenda? Trumpocalypse May 2018 #115

Of course they are, their agenda is to remove all democrats from government. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #121

Then why did Franken admit to and Trumpocalypse May 2018 #112

He didn't. Denzil_DC May 2018 #120

Here Trumpocalypse May 2018 #125

Yes, you most definitely are guilty of misrepresentation. Denzil_DC May 2018 #129

Wow that's a lot of spin Trumpocalypse May 2018 #130

Well, you appear to be the expert on spin. Not so much on semantics, though. Denzil_DC May 2018 #131

Franken apologized Trumpocalypse May 2018 #132

Your question that I challenged: "Then why did Franken admit to and apologize for his actions?" Denzil_DC May 2018 #133

An apology is an admission of guilt. Trumpocalypse May 2018 #135

You don't know what words mean wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #136

Go easy there, wellst0nev0ter. Denzil_DC May 2018 #138

It's obvious he's not arguing in good faith wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #140

It was meant as a friendly heads up. Denzil_DC May 2018 #141

The word 'apology' means: Trumpocalypse May 2018 #143

No, it is not. Denzil_DC May 2018 #137

And prior to his resignation he apologized Trumpocalypse May 2018 #144

You can keep claiming that all you like, it still doesn't make it true. Denzil_DC May 2018 #145

You're projecting Trumpocalypse May 2018 #146

And you're now reduced to throwing psych jargon around like you knew what it meant. Denzil_DC May 2018 #147

Go right ahead Trumpocalypse May 2018 #148

OK. Denzil_DC May 2018 #150

Very selective editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #153

Editing? Denzil_DC May 2018 #155

More editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #157

Utter bullshit. Denzil_DC May 2018 #160

Still editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #161

Oh, I have "issues" now, do I? Denzil_DC May 2018 #163

There go again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #164

Anybody can certainly read what you've written. Denzil_DC May 2018 #165

Thanks again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #166

You're welcome. Denzil_DC May 2018 #167

And thank you yet again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #168

For what? Denzil_DC May 2018 #169

Thanks again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #170

What for? Denzil_DC May 2018 #171

More thanks! Trumpocalypse May 2018 #172

Well, if you're so keen to see your nonsense exposed to a wider audience, you're certainly welcome. Denzil_DC May 2018 #173

And thank you again! Trumpocalypse May 2018 #174

Franken wasn't ousted; he caved. FarCenter May 2018 #152

He should of fought back Trumpocalypse May 2018 #162

And yet Trump just admitted to paying off Stormy after lying about it and Trump is still POTUS Freethinker65 May 2018 #176

... TheDebbieDee May 2018 #177