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bettyellen

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136. It's always been about putting people in their place. And they gotta get over it.

Tue May 1, 2018, 07:32 PM

May 2018

I got a FB on from someone who read a couple of calm, rational responses I had to someone who was literally flooding the board w venom towards Joy Reid. They don’t understand why she would ever be forgiven or that she (and other straight people) could change their thinking. This is someone who is solidly anti-war. They were in the Navy. I guess I’m supposed to hate him for that? I don’t know but it was a solid rant w sexist crap and a fuck you and...... I’m the “bully”?!? Sure, Jan. Women are really not entitled to express opinions becasue dudes hear it as scolding.
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Black Folk Outrage vs. White Folk Outrage [View all] EffieBlack Apr 2018 OP

Kick dalton99a Apr 2018 #1

Just another attempt at diversion by the Repuks. olegramps Apr 2018 #29

THIS! Zoonart Apr 2018 #2

I'm with the Black Folks' Cha Apr 2018 #3

Well put rock Apr 2018 #4

Amen! BarbD Apr 2018 #5

Word! K & R. VOX Apr 2018 #6

K and R oasis Apr 2018 #7

Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Apr 2018 #8

So true Rebl2 Apr 2018 #9

Oh please! lunatica Apr 2018 #10

It kind of offends me personally. I'm fucking here trying to fight the good fight and this is my poboy2 Apr 2018 #31

Just who are you expecting "thanks" from? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #37

Didn't you know? They give out participation trophies wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #39

Oh, you poor dear. Shall I fetch the smelling salts and pull up your fainting couch? Tarc Apr 2018 #51

Hello? Care to respond? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #55

It's tiring JustAnotherGen May 2018 #65

If that made you uncomfortable and you think it is racist nini May 2018 #72

It isn't a valid point though. John Fante May 2018 #108

If the shoe doesn't fit you then don't worry nini May 2018 #133

Reread your post, but replace "white" with "black". John Fante May 2018 #138

OK - I'll bite EffieBlack May 2018 #140

I was talking about post #133. John Fante May 2018 #143

Got it - but it would also make no sense to replace white with black unless you knew what EffieBlack May 2018 #144

Fair enough, and I agree - this generalization is harmless John Fante May 2018 #145

I added an addendum EffieBlack May 2018 #141

In he context of Twitter, it certainly is a valid point. bettyellen May 2018 #137

Agreed left-of-center2012 May 2018 #124

What's the problem? JustAnotherGen May 2018 #66

You don't get the broad brush stereotype in that tweet? lunatica May 2018 #70

You don't get satire? EffieBlack May 2018 #73

Yes. I get satire lunatica May 2018 #76

Interesting that you don't know enough about any of it to recognize satire EffieBlack May 2018 #80

These robotic responses lead me to believe sarcasm is not a tool they wanna share w POC.... bettyellen May 2018 #103

The author was racially stereotyping both white people AND black people lunatica May 2018 #127

No - it's all text JustAnotherGen May 2018 #116

Exactly. iluvtennis Apr 2018 #11

I get your point, but I doubt even half of whites are outraged about that joke, and Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #12

Well said LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #19

More whitesplaining, sorry. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #41

Oh. You are making a big assumption about my color. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #44

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #45

Blacksplaining, really??? Delete your post! marble falls May 2018 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author John Fante May 2018 #109

LOVE the Twitter comments to that. Definitely worth the read. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #13

Worth recalling Michele Wolf's final line: "Flint still doesn't have clean water". Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #14

and when was the last time any of these correspondents asked any administration official EffieBlack Apr 2018 #15

Yup. You are right on point there and Michelle Wolf had great cutting remarks about the media. . . n Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #18

Right after they asked about Puerto Rico's situation post-Maria. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #38

What utter hogwash mythology Apr 2018 #16

Whoosh! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #21

ROFL Effie, you beat me to it! Amimnoch Apr 2018 #25

Almost better than the tweet does ... EffieBlack Apr 2018 #26

Yes, if your intention is to divide and drive fighters for the cause away, congrats! poboy2 Apr 2018 #32

You're not a "fighter for the cause" if something someone says on an online board drives you away EffieBlack Apr 2018 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #35

Not to mention, nothing shows privilege more than threatening to remove support b/c of tone. KitSileya May 2018 #110

Awesome post! EffieBlack May 2018 #123

I think the intention was to call out white privilege in an incredibly effective way. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #113

This response JustAnotherGen May 2018 #67

Please spare a moment to think of the suffering, the struggle... BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #17

Right. We're entitled to drive intoxicated and kill as many as we want erronis Apr 2018 #59

"Too rich to fail"... booooooom, right on the money!! Good line!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #112

White folks are outraged about Flint not having water and unarmed blacks killed by cops oberliner Apr 2018 #20

Pssssst... it's sarcastic. bettyellen May 2018 #79

Blanket issues much? askyagerz Apr 2018 #22

K&R! workinclasszero Apr 2018 #23

It's always interesting to see how long it takes for outraged whitesplaining to enter these threads EffieBlack Apr 2018 #24

Instantly almost every time Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #27

Exactly.. HipChick Apr 2018 #33

You know that you didn't have to wait too long. MrScorpio Apr 2018 #43

Me too Effie JustAnotherGen May 2018 #68

Why are they so DIVISIVE? EffieBlack May 2018 #69

I can't see it JustAnotherGen May 2018 #115

Yep. joshcryer May 2018 #91

If that is their goal, they need to step up their game EffieBlack May 2018 #94

Raggedy zombies because Twitter is always so literal... oMG it's like bettyellen May 2018 #107

Dang! These folks are something else! Digital Puppy May 2018 #111

I do not get the defensiveness, Effie mcar May 2018 #125

Ha! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #28

K&R Gothmog Apr 2018 #30

THIS! + a brazillion! K&R. nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #36

K&R greatlaurel Apr 2018 #40

No. This WHCD thing does not break along color lines. Squinch Apr 2018 #42

I am outraged at your outrage, Effie! ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #46

This is discriminatory to white people, stating that they are only outraged about Sanders makeup. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #47

I suppose that some are predisposed to see discrimination, whereas others require proof. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #48

Proof of what? You find it funny to lie about a race? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #52

I'm just applying the same skepticism to a claim of racial bias that you applied previously EffieBlack Apr 2018 #54

Your response made no sense & is unrelated to your OP and my response. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #62

I'm not going to engage in a point-by-point analysis of a satirical tweet that you clearly don't get EffieBlack May 2018 #63

I'm not "feeling" your list is discriminatory. It is on its face discriminatory. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #64

I'm sick of this "You are hypersensitive, you can put me on ignore" being directed at PoC on DU. moriah May 2018 #82

You're kidding, right? Sailor65x1 May 2018 #85

I'm aware. After seeing many say to her that if she doesn't like having her life experiences... moriah May 2018 #89

Unfortunately your use of logic is wasted here Bradshaw3 May 2018 #128

Many a man has wept bitterly betsuni May 2018 #131

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #83

Grievance industry? EffieBlack May 2018 #86

Brave warriors fighting against the tyranny of Big Grievance. betsuni May 2018 #88

"The grievance industry" NCTraveler May 2018 #129

Still no response? Interesting EffieBlack May 2018 #130

Are you really taking the Tweet literally? And LOL at you're list of things white people bettyellen May 2018 #99

Brilliant post. This thread (and the tweet that inspired it) belongs John Fante May 2018 #139

I find it funny people pretending not to see sarcasm. Deliberately obtuse, it's no way bettyellen May 2018 #106

Without qualifiers Red Mountain Apr 2018 #49

Thank you for the whitesplaining - i mean "edits" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #56

K&R ck4829 Apr 2018 #50

K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #53

Because EffieBlack Apr 2018 #57

Just had to go check my melanin content. I'm still Caucasian, but the first four items Atticus Apr 2018 #58

NYT: "She Died After Collapsing on a Plane the Pilot Refused to Divert" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #60

Yes, I had already read about that ignorance. My post meant that it Atticus May 2018 #120

That about sums it up. Where are the pleas for racial equality? As they say, "crickets"! George II Apr 2018 #61

Sadly true. IluvPitties May 2018 #71

K&R ismnotwasm May 2018 #74

Or get it but have another agenda. EffieBlack May 2018 #75

There you go! brer cat May 2018 #119

What's the fly over the headcount so far? HA HA bettyellen May 2018 #78

LOL EffieBlack May 2018 #81

My favorite is, "It's getting a bit too racial in here" betsuni May 2018 #84

And, of course: You are being divisive. EffieBlack May 2018 #87

At least they didn't say *up in here*. Oy vey. Embarrassed for a few people. bettyellen May 2018 #95

Do you see anything problematic about this tweet? oberliner May 2018 #90

No. EffieBlack May 2018 #92

It seems potentially problematic, but I am trying to think it through a bit more oberliner May 2018 #96

On what planet is this a serious analysis and not sarcasm? bettyellen May 2018 #93

What do you think the message of the tweet is? oberliner May 2018 #97

it's about some serious problems that are ignored way too much by Americans who'd rather blabber on bettyellen May 2018 #98

You are leaving out any reference to race in your explanation of the meaning of the tweet oberliner May 2018 #100

That when horrible shit happens to black people, crickets and "you're being racial". moriah May 2018 #101

Are you claiming not to understand it's sarcasm? I've asked twice. bettyellen May 2018 #102

I am claiming that it seems to be making a point about race (perhaps using sarcasm to do so) oberliner May 2018 #104

Since you refuse to answer in good faith, I am done here. bettyellen May 2018 #105

Huh? oberliner May 2018 #117

So you are not sure what sarcasm means? betsuni May 2018 #122

You think everyone here might be wrong about it being a sarcastic comment? bettyellen May 2018 #132

Pattern and practice EffieBlack May 2018 #135

It's always been about putting people in their place. And they gotta get over it. bettyellen May 2018 #136

The point: Huckabee Sanders/Trump/Republican apologists are obviously majority white. betsuni May 2018 #121

The tweet isn't calling out Trump supporters, it's calling out whites in general. John Fante May 2018 #142

The context is outrage on Twitter. And you know that. bettyellen May 2018 #146

Remember that old blog, Stuff White People Like? betsuni May 2018 #147

Which makes it even funnier EffieBlack May 2018 #148

This is funny s**t GaryCnf May 2018 #114

Good grief, if the labels annoy you, Croney May 2018 #118

National Brother Week still_one May 2018 #126

I knew this thread would be lively! mokawanis May 2018 #134

Sorry I was late to the party. sheshe2 May 2018 #149

Another K&R sheshe2 May 2018 #150

K&R Me. May 2018 #151

This needs to stay active GaryCnf May 2018 #152