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156. I am telling it to you as told by my source, and this is the news cycle

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:31 PM

May 2018

What was said publicly and what was known and said by the parties mentioned and when may also be on a different timeline from what we knew as the general public. This guy is very close to Franken, has breakfast once or more times a week with him, and spoke with convincing authority. I'm not claiming infallibility for anyone, of course, including myself, and I only had 45 minutes with my friend in DC in January, but he didn't seem to be speculating.

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A fair reminder of what caused Franken's ouster [View all] wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 OP

A good reminder at that....Franken was railroaded - and Gillibrand added her two cents asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #1

Gillibrand led the charge. The others fell in line, including Schumer. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #24

exactly. n/t LittleGirl Apr 2018 #33

Yes Wiccan Priest Apr 2018 #34

Oh...I've never heard that expression before. I love that. Amidships. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #96

I'll never forgive any of them. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #41

100pc with you on this Alice11111 May 2018 #85

Does that include Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Chris Murphy? oberliner May 2018 #100

All of them wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #108

Did I stutter? Do I mumble? What part of "I'll never forgive any of them" was confusing to you? NurseJackie May 2018 #126

Yes n/t WyLoochka May 2018 #128

Harry Reid knows Republican tactics well. He would have shut down the Franken railroading. stuffmatters Apr 2018 #49

+1 Agree on Schumer lunasun Apr 2018 #55

Shumer failed on purpose. Tatiana Apr 2018 #56

Would Reid have shut it down? I hadn't realized that. What a bummer for us. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #78

I don't recall Leader Reid ever supporting the railroading of a Dem Senator by fellow D Senators stuffmatters May 2018 #90

Through that trumped up ouster of Franken,I kept thinking Alice11111 May 2018 #86

That was my immediate & constant thought too. stuffmatters May 2018 #92

Right...Schumer is the kind of guy who "falls in line". brooklynite Apr 2018 #82

Don't forget Warren and Sanders nt Trumpocalypse May 2018 #114

Oh, yeah. I had forgotten that they jumped on the bandwagon. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #134

Actually one of Franken's best friends says Dayton was the last nail in the coffin DFW May 2018 #151

With respect, that's not accurate. It went very quickly, just a few hours. Here's the timeline. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #154

I am telling it to you as told by my source, and this is the news cycle DFW May 2018 #156

I understand. But the fact is that he announced his resignation before the Gov namd his replacement. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #159

My friend will get a laugh out of "the Shadow" DFW May 2018 #175

Gillibrand added her non-cents! democratisphere Apr 2018 #54

Do you suppose she is catching on - or better yet have heard from her asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #66

Senators and Representatives from any state affect all of US with democratisphere Apr 2018 #73

As a NY constituent, and someone who pays attention to New York State politics... brooklynite Apr 2018 #83

I forgot about ALL the money in political campaigns...my point.. asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #84

Correct! IluvPitties Apr 2018 #59

Then he shouldn't have apologized and Trumpocalypse May 2018 #113

"fair" mythology Apr 2018 #2

Find proof that he apologized wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #3

I'm gonna take a nap. You can wait on my behalf. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #4

He didn't admit to mistreating them but he did acknowledge his behavior 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #5

Yes, he certainly can't deny that Tweeden photo wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #7

Two college kids can get drunk, engage in sex 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #10

Funny how the picture was floating around wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #12

I'm sure if Franken had stayed in office he would have been re-elected 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #16

Not just a progressive Dem but the one who got Sessions in hot water misanthrope Apr 2018 #19

Also Franken was also the Senator who outed Gorsuch an irrational implacable RW zealot stuffmatters Apr 2018 #61

The picture... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #45

Thank you Butterflylady Apr 2018 #48

Add to it that prior to that flap misanthrope Apr 2018 #69

It's subjective 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #51

From now on wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #57

We'll just photoshop pictures to avoid any hurt feelings 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #75

Don Jr.'s friend was wearing The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #50

Apparently that photographer's quote is fake wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #81

To Polack, fucking A Alice11111 May 2018 #89

I worked with a young man who had a sexual harassment complaint against him CrispyQ May 2018 #122

You have to be really careful about that stuff 94Mountaineer May 2018 #124

"The first thing I want to do is apologize" oberliner May 2018 #101

He's apologizing for the picture, not for having molested anyone. ucrdem May 2018 #103

That is true oberliner May 2018 #106

He did not apoligize wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #107

His wife is in AA and he also works a 12 step program Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #142

No, he did not. I hate it when people twist what happened to suit their purposes. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #31

And menendez's replacement would have been appointed by spooky3 Apr 2018 #64

Yikes. That's a scary thought. Sort of like a former Repub is now going to run for Franken's seat.nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #76

No, he did not say that. That was Gillibrand's interpretation Alice11111 May 2018 #87

I'm sure the DNC will tell painter to go pound sand, right? vi5 Apr 2018 #6

We can count on Dem elites to stick up for progressives wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #9

If Painter gets this nom.... vi5 Apr 2018 #11

The Gillibrand lynch mob wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #13

YEAH! Lucky you! BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #22

I hate sounding like a conspiracy guy... vi5 Apr 2018 #46

Those hoping that the dems will go bold, assuming they ever gain any influence again, CrispyQ May 2018 #123

That's o.k. vi5 May 2018 #127

One of the most comical posts I have read. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #15

Wait, did Painter join the Democratic Party? FakeNoose Apr 2018 #38

Jim Justice wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #39

He officially changed parties. BTW, he supported Franken. Alice11111 May 2018 #88

Painter iss a legend in his owm mind. Scruffy1 Apr 2018 #47

As we saw with Sanders, right now the rules are that anyone can run as a Democrat. stevenleser May 2018 #139

I would have no problem with that. vi5 May 2018 #149

You have a very low threshold of what you consider to be an attack or a bash stevenleser May 2018 #158

He will be back. Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #8

Just about everyone wishes Franken would have fought from the start. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #14

Franken was caught between a rock and a hard place wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #17

Agree and disagree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #20

To be fair wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #23

"He took the Senate investigation route before the accusations mysteriously mounted. " NCTraveler Apr 2018 #27

He put the party above a mudfight wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #37

He didn't consider the party. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #42

And everyone makes the right decisions wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #52

I disagree that there could have only been one outcome. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #68

Franken's only mistake wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #71

But it did look like he was going through the process, at least until he got stabbed in the back. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #18

Yes, if you define the process through such a limited scope as to ignore reality. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #21

Too bad Franken believed in the process n/t wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #25

Really is a shame he didn't understand the larger picture. nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #26

I have found that... pazzyanne Apr 2018 #63

I agree. Alice11111 May 2018 #91

So let's round up a lawless posse and hang'im from the nearest tree ? OnDoutside May 2018 #111

They can claim to have been... NCTraveler May 2018 #116

I don't think fighting was an option. ucrdem May 2018 #102

Look at Schummer right after. NCTraveler May 2018 #105

Schumer is a lawyer and did what lawyers do. ucrdem May 2018 #117

This is comical. NCTraveler May 2018 #118

For some perhaps. ucrdem May 2018 #119

minngal marieo1 Apr 2018 #28

Caused the ouster? I think sex can arguably be said to have caused anyone. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #29

Well now that you mension it.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #30

The real reason for Franken's ouster is njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #32

And trumpers basically weaponized this wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #35

They sure did njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #40

I guess chalk killing the Soul of the Senate, to Don, Jr. Alice11111 May 2018 #93

I wonder if my favorite situational ethics poster will drop by BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #36

I'm wondering the same thing. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #58

Who can blame him for leaving dreamland Apr 2018 #43

When you're right, you're right. marble falls Apr 2018 #44

It's been, what, four months now? mac56 Apr 2018 #53

They did it to shine their progressive credentials and get rid of a strong competitor. lark Apr 2018 #60

Yeah. It was all just so weird. Dems attacking the Senate brain Alice11111 May 2018 #94

Didn't Franken apologize and take responsibility? Renew Deal Apr 2018 #62

Yes, he did. Twice. nt scarletwoman Apr 2018 #65

All he materially apologized for wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #70

There was no reason for him to "admit wrongdoing" since he didn't commit any wrongdoing. scarletwoman Apr 2018 #72

You're right wellst0nev0ter Apr 2018 #74

"There's no excuse...I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate." oberliner May 2018 #99

No. Alice11111 May 2018 #95

Al Franken apologizes for sexual misconduct allegations oberliner May 2018 #97

No he didn't...that was after the USO thing which I think was ridiculous...there is no way what Demsrule86 May 2018 #109

100% documented, what you said there. No, Al Franken did nothing, absolutely nothing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #67

Read Al Franken's apology following accusation of groping and kissing without consent oberliner May 2018 #98

The usual suspects are now twisting Franken's words even though John Fante May 2018 #104

I am often surprised also...the GOP calls the tune and they dance around. Demsrule86 May 2018 #110

What posters are pushing a conservative agenda? Trumpocalypse May 2018 #115

Of course they are, their agenda is to remove all democrats from government. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #121

Then why did Franken admit to and Trumpocalypse May 2018 #112

He didn't. Denzil_DC May 2018 #120

Here Trumpocalypse May 2018 #125

Yes, you most definitely are guilty of misrepresentation. Denzil_DC May 2018 #129

Wow that's a lot of spin Trumpocalypse May 2018 #130

Well, you appear to be the expert on spin. Not so much on semantics, though. Denzil_DC May 2018 #131

Franken apologized Trumpocalypse May 2018 #132

Your question that I challenged: "Then why did Franken admit to and apologize for his actions?" Denzil_DC May 2018 #133

An apology is an admission of guilt. Trumpocalypse May 2018 #135

You don't know what words mean wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #136

Go easy there, wellst0nev0ter. Denzil_DC May 2018 #138

It's obvious he's not arguing in good faith wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #140

It was meant as a friendly heads up. Denzil_DC May 2018 #141

The word 'apology' means: Trumpocalypse May 2018 #143

No, it is not. Denzil_DC May 2018 #137

And prior to his resignation he apologized Trumpocalypse May 2018 #144

You can keep claiming that all you like, it still doesn't make it true. Denzil_DC May 2018 #145

You're projecting Trumpocalypse May 2018 #146

And you're now reduced to throwing psych jargon around like you knew what it meant. Denzil_DC May 2018 #147

Go right ahead Trumpocalypse May 2018 #148

OK. Denzil_DC May 2018 #150

Very selective editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #153

Editing? Denzil_DC May 2018 #155

More editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #157

Utter bullshit. Denzil_DC May 2018 #160

Still editing Trumpocalypse May 2018 #161

Oh, I have "issues" now, do I? Denzil_DC May 2018 #163

There go again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #164

Anybody can certainly read what you've written. Denzil_DC May 2018 #165

Thanks again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #166

You're welcome. Denzil_DC May 2018 #167

And thank you yet again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #168

For what? Denzil_DC May 2018 #169

Thanks again Trumpocalypse May 2018 #170

What for? Denzil_DC May 2018 #171

More thanks! Trumpocalypse May 2018 #172

Well, if you're so keen to see your nonsense exposed to a wider audience, you're certainly welcome. Denzil_DC May 2018 #173

And thank you again! Trumpocalypse May 2018 #174

Franken wasn't ousted; he caved. FarCenter May 2018 #152

He should of fought back Trumpocalypse May 2018 #162

And yet Trump just admitted to paying off Stormy after lying about it and Trump is still POTUS Freethinker65 May 2018 #176

... TheDebbieDee May 2018 #177