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98. Nope...Not A DEm, Roosevelt Or Otherwise

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Bernie Sanders Endorses Independent Over Democrat in Lt. Gov. Race For California [View all] RandySF May 2018 OP

He has a history of doing this question everything May 2018 #1

The DU rule explicitly applies to him unc70 May 2018 #19

Time to ask for that to changed in light of his going against a Democrat. He can no longer be Demsrule86 May 2018 #24

No it is not time unc70 May 2018 #29

He is supporting independents...former (maybe) Greens. It is time. Demsrule86 May 2018 #31

But Bernie is NOT a Democrat... Adrahil May 2018 #48

Exactly. NastyRiffraff May 2018 #130

It's past time. MrsCoffee May 2018 #49

He's now working against the Democratic party. NurseJackie May 2018 #62

An excellent reply. eom guillaumeb May 2018 #181

Be careful. You are on the edge versus site policy, which is not our business. Blue_true May 2018 #90

No I am not actually. I am a Democrat...I have no use for non-Democrats...glad he votes with us Demsrule86 May 2018 #124

You have been pretty consistent pointing out the issues with Bernie Blue_true May 2018 #135

It will happen...Sen. Sanders had loyal supporters on DU who take exception to perceived Demsrule86 May 2018 #161

I am afraid that we are headed there. Blue_true May 2018 #187

We have new rules in effect to deal with this...I think they will hold. Demsrule86 May 2018 #194

I hope so. Was really difficult. nt Blue_true May 2018 #196

I know. Demsrule86 May 2018 #211

Abso-fucking-lutely...nt SidDithers May 2018 #93

It is way past time. R B Garr May 2018 #96

In fact if the rule doesnt change, we will have less and less to talk about here. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #101

True that. Demsrule86 May 2018 #163

+1 krawhitham May 2018 #165

It's against the rules to "viciously denigrate" Democrats or progressives like Sanders. pnwmom May 2018 #32

That is consistent with my understanding unc70 May 2018 #69

Thank you Pnwmom. Demsrule86 May 2018 #164

"one can criticize registered Democrats." disillusioned73 May 2018 #55

Is there a process for asking for that to be changed ? OnDoutside May 2018 #67

You can always ask the owners unc70 May 2018 #79

If you haven't noticed that has changed dramatically. MrsCoffee May 2018 #97

I see it differently unc70 May 2018 #106

We definitely see it differently. MrsCoffee May 2018 #112

I see that completely differently... I think it is the man not the policies as they are Demsrule86 May 2018 #158

You need to get your eyes checked grantcart May 2018 #184

And Sanders focuses mostly on himself. IMO LiberalFighter May 2018 #214

I guess I'm part of a group that is critical of Sanders and some of his sprinkleeninow May 2018 #203

It doesn't apply to Our Revolution or Nina Turner (their President) George II May 2018 #73

Thank God...I would be in trouble. Demsrule86 May 2018 #159

BS is no dem we can do it May 2018 #95

Jury nullification HAB911 May 2018 #116

Who decides what is a "criticism" and what is an "attack"? politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #122

Past time. NurseJackie May 2018 #201

It has been my experience that the difference between "attacking" and "criticizing" Atticus May 2018 #202

The rule is explicit in the TOS. LiberalFighter May 2018 #213

Last count I saw he has been a Democrat for four very brief stints. NCTraveler May 2018 #143

So, why, again, are we willing to claim him as our own question everything May 2018 #147

I'm not included in "we". NCTraveler May 2018 #154

Regardless of what anyone says or thinks, Bernie is not a Democrat. CaptainTruth May 2018 #2

His "party" registration is nonexistent unc70 May 2018 #21

Same as Ohio....you still join the party which has nothing to do with state registration. Demsrule86 May 2018 #25

Party registration is a complex mess unc70 May 2018 #41

As I noted below, Party Registration and Voter Registration are separate and distinct. George II May 2018 #74

Isn't Patrick Leahy, the other Senator from VT, a Democrat? Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #188

No, it isn't. He made a point of saying, after the election, that he was leaving the Democrats pnwmom May 2018 #35

And he had promised to remain a Democrat...may be planning an independent run. Demsrule86 May 2018 #38

The best example is the great DEMOCRATIC Senator from Vermont, Patrick Leahy, who proudly still_one May 2018 #81

That statement is false. Jim Lane May 2018 #109

It is not a false statement. We all saw Bernie run as a Democrat R B Garr May 2018 #121

Key: when it suited him. arthritisR_US May 2018 #134

He RAN with the Democratic party label in the Democratic primaries. He SAID he had become a Democrat pnwmom May 2018 #126

Please don't put words in my mouth. Jim Lane May 2018 #141

Is it that or is it that some people will make an excuse for Bernie no matter what? stevenleser May 2018 #144

The ballot application to be on the Texas ballot requires an affirmation Gothmog May 2018 #186

Jim he did...I don't care one way or the other although I am pissed he endorsed an Demsrule86 May 2018 #160

Then how did Sanders run in the Democratic Primary Gothmog May 2018 #185

Sen Pat Leahy (D) VT doesn't seem to have a problem IDing as a Democrat. Adrahil May 2018 #58

Really? How about this: George II May 2018 #64

Illinois doesn't have party registration either. greatauntoftriplets May 2018 #82

Candidates are still listed on the ballot by Party affiliation. I haven't noticed any difference politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #3

McLaughlin is the NPP candidate. RandySF May 2018 #7

Exactly. Sanders has registered to be a candidate as an INDEPENDENT. On the other hand... George II May 2018 #65

The "open" or "jungle" primary makes it very, very easy to split the Dem vote & LOSE to Repubs Hekate May 2018 #4

The top 2 (jungle) primary is a gift to Republicans. SunSeeker May 2018 #6

It is usually a gift for Dems. padfun May 2018 #30

I agree with every word. Blue_true May 2018 #91

Dems win statewide because of our deepening blue state, regardless of the jungle primary. SunSeeker May 2018 #118

In a blue state, it is a gift to Repubs. It splits the Dem vote. SunSeeker May 2018 #114

That better NOT happen. Cha May 2018 #9

+1 dalton99a May 2018 #42

how, top 2 go to runoff right? or am I misunderstanding how the california system works? JCanete May 2018 #148

Yes, which means you could end with a runoff of 2 Repubs... Hekate May 2018 #153

that sounds incredibly unlikely though. I don't really like this system either. I think it pushes JCanete May 2018 #155

I'm voting for Eleni Kounalakis. She's endorsed by Kamala Harris and NARAL. SunSeeker May 2018 #5

Good Luck to Eleni Kounalakis, Cha May 2018 #8

She is one of the two heavyweights in that race according to the Sacramento Bee. SunSeeker May 2018 #100

Mahalo! Cha May 2018 #175

Good. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #52

Me too n/t musette_sf May 2018 #172

Yes! My daughters and I attended a fundraiser for her last week in SF! deurbano May 2018 #212

Bernie Is A Roosevelt Democrat PaulX2 May 2018 #10

He endorsed a Green over four Democrats. RandySF May 2018 #11

Well, that's no surprise. He better not mess up Cha May 2018 #18

McLaughlin endorsed Jill Stein for president in 2016. That speaks volumes still_one May 2018 #92

"Progressive values" will not win if third party candidates split Dem votes & bring us Trump ... Hekate May 2018 #12

Exactly. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #119

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat Hekate May 2018 #13

Very rarely. Jill Stein received 51,463 votes here in MI; Trump "won" by 10,704. catbyte May 2018 #14

And 60,000 Wayne County Democrats GaryCnf May 2018 #23

Voter ID and other forms of suppression reduced Democratic turnout. pnwmom May 2018 #37

Actually GaryCnf May 2018 #50

There was an active campaign against Hillary, and not just R B Garr May 2018 #66

And "not just from Republicans?" GaryCnf May 2018 #108

Hillary was badmouthed and not just by Republicans. That is now common R B Garr May 2018 #117

I won't argue with this GaryCnf May 2018 #123

What does that have to do with the 51K who voted for Stein? There are a number of reasons... George II May 2018 #89

How is this entire "if not for stein" or "if not for bernie" GaryCnf May 2018 #120

"whistling past the graveyard" progressoid May 2018 #131

And, jill stein LIED her damn head off to get her Cha May 2018 #34

I think she was in cahoots with the trump campaign from the get-go. catbyte May 2018 #45

Me too.. I don't care how much Cha May 2018 #46

And how. No way does a dumbass like her get as far as she did without a LOT of, catbyte May 2018 #47

Ya think? I don't think there's any doubt about it. George II May 2018 #54

Susan Sarandon can play her in the TV movie thegoose May 2018 #204

BS is an Independent. The Democratic Party has an Cha May 2018 #16

Sen. Sanders is not a Democrata of any sort...his actions in endorsing an independent instead of a Demsrule86 May 2018 #26

Plus open primaries will ALWAYS help EVERYBODY but the Democratic party in ANY state Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #103

I hate them...we dodged a bullet in 08 when the long primary orchestrated by "limbaugh" Demsrule86 May 2018 #162

No, he's not mcar May 2018 #57

Roosevelt understood the importance of the party in our system. Adrahil May 2018 #61

No he isn't. That's like saying trump is a Lincoln Republican. George II May 2018 #76

Teddy Roosevelt? greatauntoftriplets May 2018 #86

Nope...Not A DEm, Roosevelt Or Otherwise Me. May 2018 #98

The 1930s are long gone, however treestar May 2018 #105

At least Roosevelt never lost track of who the real enemy was... Blue_Tires May 2018 #113

Sanders is as usual semi-serious about causing trouble for Democrats Hortensis May 2018 #15

+1000 Demsrule86 May 2018 #27

Exactly, one could just listen to those old radio shows every Thursday I believe it was Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #104

And by that we know leftist radical/extremists by personality. Hortensis May 2018 #169

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat scardycat May 2018 #17

DU backed a 3rd party candidate for Florida's Senate seat in 2010 RandiFan1290 May 2018 #20

You would think people would have learned there lesson...usual suspects gave us Rubio. Demsrule86 May 2018 #28

Your memory fails you. honest.abe May 2018 #215

Splitting the support of liberals & progressives only helps the Republicans. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #22

Bernie is not a Democrat. Bernie is an Independent. democratisphere May 2018 #33

Should change the name of this site to DemocraticPartyUnderground. Snotcicles May 2018 #53

Take the "underground" disillusioned73 May 2018 #60

Actually m, there is a rule about supporting Democrats RandySF May 2018 #152

Democratic, is an adjective. You can be democratic and not be a Democrat. nt Snotcicles May 2018 #197

Feel free to test it. RandySF May 2018 #198

Thanks, but I don't need your permission. Or was that a threat? nt Snotcicles May 2018 #199

Support Democrats OilemFirchen May 2018 #200

That's a good idea. nt kstewart33 May 2018 #156

How would it be different than what it is now? Demsrule86 May 2018 #166

I'm confused....don't the voters still decide? vi5 May 2018 #36

There is real danger we could lose the seat with this endorsement. Demsrule86 May 2018 #39

viewing primaries as an end to themselves is a big fault in the Democratic party...splitting the Demsrule86 May 2018 #40

I thought the idea.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #70

The idea is to find the best candidate who can win...if we nominate a candidate who can't Demsrule86 May 2018 #167

He rails against democrats endorsing people..... Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #43

He receives all the benefits of being a "Democrat" with NONE of the responsibility... NurseJackie May 2018 #59

ding ding ding, we ave a winner!!!!!!!!!! still_one May 2018 #94

So much this... SidDithers May 2018 #142

What? vi5 May 2018 #146

It's THUMBS on the SCALES!!!111 kcr May 2018 #157

Yes he does, Big time nt Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #176

You'll never get a good Two Minutes Hate going with that attitude! QC May 2018 #63

Democracy is a hell of a thing.... disillusioned73 May 2018 #68

A few posters still blame progressives for 2016 StuckInTexas May 2018 #125

So true. progressoid May 2018 #133

" I used to browse the board for a morale lift," disillusioned73 May 2018 #140

Didn't you get the message.... vi5 May 2018 #150

That is nonsense...We are all progressives first of all ...there is no 'progressive' wing of the Demsrule86 May 2018 #168

I think the overwhelming majority of people on this site understand game theory and the need to win StuckInTexas May 2018 #174

I hope you are right...16 was a shit show. Demsrule86 May 2018 #195

Your Feinstein example and the way you describe it R B Garr May 2018 #210

Sorry you've been made to feel unwelcome ... I can relate. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #182

I bet you are not confused at all. R B Garr May 2018 #71

I thought we were talking about the Democratic primary? vi5 May 2018 #149

Bernie understood and decided to use the Democrats. R B Garr May 2018 #170

I remember him running in the Democratic primary... vi5 May 2018 #171

This was about Independents splitting the party. R B Garr May 2018 #173

The point is RandySF May 2018 #77

This would all be 100% valid *IF*... Blue_Tires May 2018 #115

Really? What policy has he dictated? vi5 May 2018 #145

How far apart are the Dems and McLaughlin on issues? Are her ideas popular? jalan48 May 2018 #44

Is McLaughlin benefitting from organizations funded by dark money anonymous donors? lapucelle May 2018 #56

I am not in California.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #80

She's a Green, Jill Stein voter who is supported by a dark money group. lapucelle May 2018 #88

Well, like I said, I don't live in Cal. disillusioned73 May 2018 #102

Unlimited money from anonymous donors is the very definition of "dark money". lapucelle May 2018 #132

It's all about Bernie. Doodley May 2018 #51

That's why his colleagues in the Senate loath him. comradebillyboy May 2018 #129

They are not alone in their loathing. arthritisR_US May 2018 #136

Let's be very clear about who McLaughlin is. She endorsed JILL STEIN for president in 2016 still_one May 2018 #72

Really? Well she can't be very smart then, Cha May 2018 #75

They are very deceptive, and they play a rebranding game hoping to play on the gullibility of people still_one May 2018 #83

3rd party Sleazy Grifters on a grand Cha May 2018 #87

Bammo Bingo Me. May 2018 #99

.. Cha May 2018 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author Me. May 2018 #183

a certain group is dedicated to destroying Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #107

Right.. it's all fake 3rd party shit like jill putin's pawn Cha May 2018 #178

I had hoped the obviousness of it would be clear now, but not so I guess. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #179

This most likely means the Democrat will win ismnotwasm May 2018 #78

Jeff Bleich still_one May 2018 #84

We need to coalesce for sure RandySF May 2018 #110

no surprise here heaven05 May 2018 #85

"Imagine if Bernie didn't have to run as a Democrat...." Blue_Tires May 2018 #111

This is great news! Maven May 2018 #127

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog May 2018 #128

Not me workinclasszero May 2018 #138

+1 dalton99a May 2018 #209

Straight democratic ticket period unless you want more dumb fuck republicans. onecaliberal May 2018 #137

+1000. No third party phoneys. arthritisR_US May 2018 #139

oh the horror...and what a horrible candidate, fighting against the choke-hold that the fossile fuel JCanete May 2018 #151

A progressive should run as a Democrat, unless that progressive likes the idea of being a spoiler.nt pnwmom May 2018 #189

the one good thing about the california primary system is that that's highly unlikely right? JCanete May 2018 #190

No, it could easily happen. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #191

how? JCanete May 2018 #206

Here's how. pnwmom May 2018 #207

If she helps a Republican get elected I imagine Chevron will be very happy. ucrdem May 2018 #193

Right, that's her strategy after this long fight against them. This is california. Remember how the JCanete May 2018 #205

Read your voter information guide. ucrdem May 2018 #208

Sounds like a "vote splitting scenario" Civic Justice May 2018 #180

DAMMIT, Bernie! calimary May 2018 #192