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PoindexterOglethorpe

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71. You are.

Tue May 8, 2018, 09:40 AM

May 2018

And those born in 1961 or 1964 are not Boomers. They were born in the Demographic bulge (the pig in the python as Landon Y Jones so elegantly put it in is amazing book Great Expectations which came out in 1980) but are not Boomers the way Howe and Strauss so carefully define them.

They spent a very long time working up their theory of generations, and it's sad that their books isn't more widely read. It's equally sad that William Strauss died in 2007, so there will probably never be a revision and update of the original.

Their other books, and most notably The Fourth Turning, are also worth reading.

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The Last Baby Boomers were born in 1964. [View all] MineralMan May 2018 OP

My wife and I are 66, and we are not grandparents DFW May 2018 #1

Congratulations, Grampa! MineralMan May 2018 #2

Congrats, DFW! nt spooky3 May 2018 #3

Congratulations! GWC58 May 2018 #51

My brother is also an "older dad" Freddie May 2018 #77

How lovely for you guys! In a perfect world, we'd all have Hortensis May 2018 #53

Congratulations. Enjoy the beauty of it all. oasis May 2018 #65

Well, I'm Gen X, just barely... Adrahil May 2018 #70

Same here, but just a few years younger. My little ones Ilsa May 2018 #93

My wife and I were 31 when we had our first, 33 when we had our second DFW May 2018 #95

I had my kids in my late 30s, early 40s. ;-) nt Ilsa May 2018 #96

I never liked qualifying anyone born in 1964 as "baby boomers". BlueStater May 2018 #4

Well, that's not my definition, but it is THE definition. MineralMan May 2018 #6

Not necessarily. JenniferJuniper May 2018 #22

I've never seen that breakdown. And since 1940 was 6 years away from the end of WWII, children born spooky3 May 2018 #39

Yes, in recent years there has been some shifting JenniferJuniper May 2018 #41

I personally do not believe that being born within 20 (or even 10) years of another person spooky3 May 2018 #42

Specifically, no. Broadly? Absolutely. JenniferJuniper May 2018 #45

Please provide references to peer-reviewed published academic research spooky3 May 2018 #46

Oh, please. JenniferJuniper May 2018 #47

Or declining to do all that work you can and would do Hortensis May 2018 #54

I was born in 1964 and am NOT a baby boomer janterry May 2018 #76

If it shifts again I may end up a Millennial kcr May 2018 #64

The Boomer generation was so big TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #23

So true. nt Kahuna7 May 2018 #24

I agree. llmart May 2018 #44

The titles and time frames that they give these groups is always off. BigmanPigman May 2018 #5

I'm not arguing. That's the established definition. MineralMan May 2018 #8

Yeah, the age groups are strangely named and dated. BigmanPigman May 2018 #19

If you look at a chart of the number of births during that period BumRushDaShow May 2018 #31

45 - 57ish zipplewrath May 2018 #79

I.e., the "Yuppies" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #83

Older sibilings. zipplewrath May 2018 #88

Yup. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #89

Precisely misanthrope May 2018 #18

I don't mean to quibble, but without seeing Census or similar data, and relying spooky3 May 2018 #7

The OP is blaming everyone but boomers for helicopter parenting crazycatlady May 2018 #12

Ah. Thanks for the explanation. n/t spooky3 May 2018 #14

Born in 1949..my boys were "free range boys" SoCalDem May 2018 #62

My wife and I are at the back end of the EXPANDED Boomer range, 1962 and 1964 rufus dog May 2018 #37

Me, too janterry May 2018 #82

A wonderful niece graduates college this week, 22. Parents b. 1952, boomers. appalachiablue May 2018 #55

I blockwalk and I can't count on anyone under 65 to be home before 5:30 pm LeftInTX May 2018 #9

Balanced budget enid602 May 2018 #10

Born in 1946. Retiring at end of this month. skip fox May 2018 #11

Congratulations! AwakeAtLast May 2018 #57

I'm 62 and not retired TrogL May 2018 #13

Well, I was born in 1950, so I'm definitely a boomer The_jackalope May 2018 #15

I'm a mid-Boomer ('55) Maeve May 2018 #16

I know grandparents born after 1964 misanthrope May 2018 #17

When I was 20 crazycatlady May 2018 #29

Don't assume. I'm a boomer. I'm 54, turning 55 next month. Borchkins May 2018 #20

You can get Medicare at 65. It's Social Security that has the age 67 rule. n/t spooky3 May 2018 #38

I'm 55, and my two sons are 9, in third grade. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #59

Born in the early 60's and I don't identify as a boomer at all JenniferJuniper May 2018 #21

Is there someone arguing that baby boomers are still having children? treestar May 2018 #25

LOL missingthebigdog May 2018 #35

Boomer Donald Trump has a middle school aged kid crazycatlady May 2018 #40

Men can HockeyMom May 2018 #86

There is so much gray area on the fringes of generations. GreenEyedLefty May 2018 #26

I was born in 56, wife in 52 benld74 May 2018 #27

Actually 54 these days would more likely be parents to teens JI7 May 2018 #28

When I think of a boomer, I imagine someone who least came of age John Fante May 2018 #30

There is a 9 year gap between my sister and me ProudLib72 May 2018 #32

I'm 54 and have a 9 year old! CottonBear May 2018 #33

That's unusual, statistically, though. MineralMan May 2018 #36

People are having kids later kcr May 2018 #66

As I said, most people with children that age are Generation X-ers. MineralMan May 2018 #67

Well, that's not what you said. You said we need to do our math. kcr May 2018 #69

Ha! Me too, except there's two of them. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #60

Wow! Lucky you! Twice the fun! CottonBear May 2018 #61

I'm baby boomer and a parent of college student as well as a grandparent of a high school student Fresh_Start May 2018 #34

uuuh...I'm single and born in 62, I still want kids but thanks for the generalization Demonaut May 2018 #43

Are you just throwing all this out there for discussion... llmart May 2018 #48

Demographic definitions kurtcagle May 2018 #49

The generation after millennials is Gen Z crazycatlady May 2018 #91

Strauss and Howe place the Boomer generation PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #50

Thanks, I'll have to read it.. Stellar May 2018 #63

You are. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #71

Agree, why better to think of generations radius777 May 2018 #73

Generation jones? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #90

Generation Jones are later Boomers/early Xers. radius777 May 2018 #92

Thank you for the clarification. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #94

Just got back from another evening of blockwalking LeftInTX May 2018 #52

So what is the point MM? Blue_true May 2018 #56

I don't propose any strategies. MineralMan May 2018 #68

I did not get the objective of your post. Maybe I missed something. nt Blue_true May 2018 #72

Imma a combo baby boomer/genxer ismnotwasm May 2018 #58

Actually they were born in 59 Trumpocalypse May 2018 #74

Nah Utah Grizzlee May 2018 #75

I'm thinking there should be 2 kinds of Boomers Freddie May 2018 #78

absolutely zipplewrath May 2018 #81

Born in 2nd half of 64, I claim GenX as mine. eShirl May 2018 #80

My Mom was 7 years old at the end of WWII, but being a 1964 birth, bullwinkle428 May 2018 #84

My SIL born in 1946 had a daughter born in 1964 HockeyMom May 2018 #85

I fit your example born in 56 marlakay May 2018 #87