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phylny

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124. I think we do it without hateful, divisive words meant to knock each other down.

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Tue May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM

May 2018

But that's just me.

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This whole wypipo thing is a Russian troll farms dream [View all] Lee-Lee May 2018 OP

The sooner white people get comfortable with things that are uncomfortable, the sooner we'll all WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #1

+1 sheshe2 May 2018 #2

I'm not saying don't do things like this or discard vocabulary Lee-Lee May 2018 #6

It's good strategy to think about what your opponent might do at any point, sure. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #10

Oh I'm not saying don't act Lee-Lee May 2018 #26

So at what point does that become concern trolling? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #31

Probably when it's posted in a response every time the subject comes up Lee-Lee May 2018 #71

IOW, don't get sucked in. grumpyduck May 2018 #59

Discard vocabulary? GusBob May 2018 #7

Why do you think I would not mean to say that? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #12

This EffieBlack May 2018 #8

There you have it ... thank you! NurseJackie May 2018 #19

Do you support childish name calling? Doodley May 2018 #51

+1 million geardaddy May 2018 #84

I don't know how old you are but many of us here have been talking about racial issues since the wasupaloopa May 2018 #87

What does age have to do with it? Why do you feel "schooled"? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #100

I think we do it without hateful, divisive words meant to knock each other down. phylny May 2018 #124

If I called any race a name here, I would be kicked out sarah FAILIN May 2018 #136

Yep. Tipperary May 2018 #143

Good analysis! Mme. Defarge May 2018 #3

One thing is certain. Russians do their homework. cpamomfromtexas May 2018 #4

Reading more closely: WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #5

Not at all Lee-Lee May 2018 #11

Identifying and discussing division caused by racism is not troll behavior. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #15

This is what this post seems to want to do BumRushDaShow May 2018 #13

Yup EffieBlack May 2018 #36

One of the things that keeps getting missed when people label something as "divisive" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #44

EXCELLENT point! EffieBlack May 2018 #48

And the only time "divisive" comes up in this discussion is when non POC are Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #54

No it is not. I am one of the old geezers here. I think the OP is right on. wasupaloopa May 2018 #89

Agree. DLevine May 2018 #9

plus the word looks a bit like wypi-poo Bucky May 2018 #14

"A bunch of Russian trolls can pretend to be black" betsuni May 2018 #16

It probably would be hilarious, except that it's already happened. procon May 2018 #28

No, the OP is about DU. betsuni May 2018 #30

Exactly- they have done it, they will again Lee-Lee May 2018 #34

"they" betsuni May 2018 #39

There was no confusion that the pronoun refers to Russians, or was this about something else? nt procon May 2018 #68

Oh dear, you can't tell the difference? betsuni May 2018 #145

Wypipo are getting salty about the wypipo thing. nt LexVegas May 2018 #17

You noticed too, eh? NurseJackie May 2018 #21

Well, I'm not white, but your assumption is interesting Lee-Lee May 2018 #27

As is your concern. LanternWaste May 2018 #37

That's it wrapped up in one concise sentence nini May 2018 #29

Yep. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #77

With as many white people who insist they aren't racist, one would think they'd be happy to have WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #18

Why is a derogatory term needed to stigmatize people? procon May 2018 #41

Yes, why on earth would we want to identify and define racist behavior? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #47

And how's that tactic working for you? procon May 2018 #64

What tactic? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #67

Please stop generalizing about white people. You are being offensive. Doodley May 2018 #73

Pretty sure I've told no lies. Just say #notallwhitepeople and save us both some time. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #102

What does that mean? Doodley May 2018 #117

I rather suspected that, but the level of racial hate is heartbreaking. procon May 2018 #74

Yes, anything is possible ehrnst May 2018 #78

Are you saying the term "wypipo" is a term of of racial hate, revenge and race warfare? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #101

Perceptions are a tricky thing, all too often we end up creating a procon May 2018 #109

"Here's a hint: Sometimes, when black people talk about white people, it's not for white people." EffieBlack May 2018 #86

. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #106

This is a great quote. annabanana May 2018 #118

Would you like slang language to be used to be describe you? If not, why do you seem to support it? Doodley May 2018 #55

I'm pretty sure slang language is used to describe me all the time. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #60

Are you saying that all white people (wypipo, as you call them) display racist behavior? Doodley May 2018 #72

Are you saying that that word is used to refer to "all" white people? George II May 2018 #79

That is the implication of the slang word, isn't it? Doodley May 2018 #115

No. George II May 2018 #121

Yikes... Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #80

Let us read what the poster wrote ChubbyStar May 2018 #105

And are you saying we should think about racist white people's feelings when using certain terms to WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #69

Yes, because apparently some of them are thinking about being not racist, but when they see EffieBlack May 2018 #88

They were totally gonna stop being racist, but being conflated with ACTUAL RACIST PEOPLE WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #99

If wypipo is describing you, then, by definition, you SHOULD be identified with wypipo... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #129

"insist?" Do you think it is not possible? treestar May 2018 #108

Yes, one WOULD think that... how ironic the term "wypipo" is outing wypipo. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #128

"Racist assholes" always worked well for me jmowreader May 2018 #141

On the other hand... A HERETIC I AM May 2018 #20

They make a button for that sarah FAILIN May 2018 #137

My comment: Not every difficult discussion means that Russians are behind it. MineralMan May 2018 #22

Fuck yeah it is. Dave Starsky May 2018 #23

I'm ready to do the same. phylny May 2018 #125

How odd EffieBlack May 2018 #24

I have seen the slur used many times. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #42

I've seen wypipo in the headline of Control-Z May 2018 #25

It's a somewhat loose term leftstreet May 2018 #40

Thank you. Control-Z May 2018 #45

If you read that essay BumRushDaShow May 2018 #62

"The terms only purpose is to make white people uncomfortable" Tarc May 2018 #32

" And you can see it already creating division here on DU." EffieBlack May 2018 #33

Maybe my point of view on this lets me see it different Lee-Lee May 2018 #43

This is a very thoughtful response - but it still doesn't answer any of my questions EffieBlack May 2018 #46

Yeah, it's a tough line to look at Lee-Lee May 2018 #70

If "Suzie Soccer Mom who voted Democrat but isn't very passionate about issues" is so bummed out EffieBlack May 2018 #82

You don't seem to get my point Lee-Lee May 2018 #107

I get your point perfectly EffieBlack May 2018 #110

Yeah, you don't get it Lee-Lee May 2018 #142

Wow. Did you even read my post? EffieBlack May 2018 #144

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #132

To respond to this BumRushDaShow May 2018 #96

The replies that were presented yesterday were summarily dismissed. procon May 2018 #56

Hey, boo - they were dismissed because they didn't answer my question EffieBlack May 2018 #61

The limited criteria that defines an acceptable response stifles differing views. procon May 2018 #65

Well, let's just say that if you're asked to define "divisiveness," EffieBlack May 2018 #75

What is it that makes people so bothered by you, hmmmmm Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #76

I can't imagine EffieBlack May 2018 #85

Well that's not divisive or derogatory at all, is it? ehrnst May 2018 #81

"Wypipo" is a term from black twitter that doesn't refer to ALL white people. kwassa May 2018 #94

It would be appalling for whites to get together and use their favorite little derogatory words procon May 2018 #97

"It would be appalling for whites to get together and use their favorite little derogatory words" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #112

Please don't shuffle around the words I wrote to recreate a different meaning. procon May 2018 #119

I quoted what you wrote BumRushDaShow May 2018 #120

No, you did no such thing. LOL - and it's not even close. procon May 2018 #122

Um okay BumRushDaShow May 2018 #123

Someone please explain why "wypipo" is an anti-white slur at all. Odoreida May 2018 #35

The term will likely play out pretty soon to now that it's become a "thing" EffieBlack May 2018 #38

True, true -- pretty soon some enterprising self-identified edgelords will "co-opt" it and use it as WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #63

I predict it will lose whatever sting it supposedly has, and be absorbed Demit May 2018 #66

Cornrows EffieBlack May 2018 #90

Saying bruh and boo and a'ight. Demit May 2018 #93

and Jive Turkey EffieBlack May 2018 #95

mmm hmmm. Demit May 2018 #111

Oh Lord thank you. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #113

How is this possibly important to anyone? HopeAgain May 2018 #49

It isn't. It's outrage du jour on DU, especially in the face of significant threats Blue_Adept May 2018 #104

Thoughts and prayers to wypipo. nt. NCTraveler May 2018 #50

Any threads that aren't about electing Dems. (Except my. music groups etc) Abu Pepe May 2018 #52

Except this time EffieBlack May 2018 #91

Or several after.. Abu Pepe May 2018 #92

Rec'd BannonsLiver May 2018 #53

I don't see the term as being derogatory at all. Ligyron May 2018 #57

I agree with Lee-Lee, the OP. Those who use the word, knowing it might cause offence, Doodley May 2018 #58

I have been strugling to explain my reason for opposition to this wypipo thing and you solved that wasupaloopa May 2018 #83

That is pretty much why I have ignored the whole thing. smirkymonkey May 2018 #98

Agreed, Only trolls would seek to divide. Doodley May 2018 #116

We can't temper our words JustAnotherGen May 2018 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #131

Cool story, bro RandiFan1290 May 2018 #114

It is not just democrats who will be angry at each other. Also those applegrove May 2018 #126

What about black people who come to the site and see Black DUers, trolled, spoken to like children EffieBlack May 2018 #133

I spoke out about division between black DUers and others when applegrove May 2018 #134

Being against racism may be a settled issue on DU - of course people are "against" racism EffieBlack May 2018 #139

I agree it is white privilege to always think there can be a logical applegrove May 2018 #140

Grow up. Get over it. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #127

Then stop using the damn word. IMHO, it should be banned here. Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author Oneironaut May 2018 #135

Divide and Conquer TheRealNorth May 2018 #138

Kick. Tipperary May 2018 #146