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calimary

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49. You're BOTH right, KY_EnviroGuy and kairos12.
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:23 PM
May 2018

Last edited Tue May 8, 2018, 10:48 PM - Edit history (1)

I was around then, and the more I learned, the more worried I became. But that seems to have been in very tiny increments. NOTHING like what I'm seeing in this era. You know those sayings about "our better angels" - "following our better angels," "calling on our better angels," etc.? Seems like trump has validated all our worse "angels". He's made it okay, normalized, mainstream, excusable, and acceptable to be rude, nasty, sneaky, deceitful, racist, selfish, misogynist, mean-spirited, petty, hypocritical, loutish, resentful, and just generally shitty.

All those things you kept to yourself because uttering them in front of people it made you look like an ass? All those things the nuns said you must never say out loud? All those things your mom/dad/favorite auntie/teacher/someone you looked up to - said were mean and unnecessary, and/or would hurt someone's feelings. Or "we don't talk like that" or "that's not nice" or "hey! Be POLITE!" or "you want I should wash your mouth out with soap?" Those things you don't dare say in polite company. No longer. Hell, just go ahead and say anything you want. Use any language you want. Go ahead and "tell it like it is," even if it offers you cover and justification for embracing Naziism and other vile stuff.

It was pretty doggone rotten during Reagan and Nixon, alright. And cheney and rove made it rather nauseating awhile back, too. But I don't remember it EVER being this bad. Or this shameful. THIS, now, is an epic catastrophic disgrace! Lower than low. Mariana Trench low. trump not only kills everything he touches - as GOP consultant Rick Wilson puts it, trump brings out the absolute worst in everybody.

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I've felt that way ever since the trump era began. calimary May 2018 #1
Since Raygun. kairos12 May 2018 #32
I was a teen when Reagan was elected and it produced my first full taste of cognitive dissonance. DemocracyMouse May 2018 #61
Since Nixon for me - Agnew and the Southern Strategy. n/t KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #37
You're BOTH right, KY_EnviroGuy and kairos12. calimary May 2018 #49
Calimary, don't know about you but... KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #57
It says what you need to know misanthrope May 2018 #51
Yes we are. mountain grammy May 2018 #2
Epidemic of moral rot. moondust May 2018 #3
And we as a country will all suffer the Wraft of the ,,,,,, Cryptoad May 2018 #4
The genocide of America's first people misanthrope May 2018 #52
K&R. Excellent post. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #53
Never was a perch. moondust May 2018 #55
This is an awesome post. And sadly true. n/t carpediem May 2018 #60
Now we know what these scumbags are really like. Let us remember all of the ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #5
The people who voted for them don't care. In fact, they approve of this lunamagica May 2018 #21
How quickly everything can go to shit RussBLib May 2018 #6
Congressman Shiff, Senator Warren thucythucy May 2018 #29
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The cherry on this shit sundae gratuitous May 2018 #7
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Sessions-Trump policy: Damage the children to punish the parents. It's abhorrent. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #9
The violence and poverty Glaisne May 2018 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #11
We are SCVDem May 2018 #12
I quit putting my American Flag out since the inauguration of the orange bastard Stainless May 2018 #13
Couldn't agree more! Mountain Mule May 2018 #22
I am a proud tRump hating American BigmanPigman May 2018 #45
K & R. We cannot allow this to go on... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2018 #14
Family reunification has been the bedrock principle of all immigration and refugee decisions for 70 grantcart May 2018 #15
The so called faith community ooky May 2018 #47
Bullshit. Mr.Bill May 2018 #16
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I honestly don't believe that many idiots are in this country LittleGirl May 2018 #42
I'm absolutely convinced that the election was rigged, stolen, and hacked lunamagica May 2018 #43
spot on! n/t LittleGirl May 2018 #44
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Right now, today, we are a very bad KPN May 2018 #18
The "Family Values" Party............... MyOwnPeace May 2018 #19
We are all Nazi's now! 90-percent May 2018 #20
Guess what? It's who we are NOW. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #23
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"Goodness has nothing to do with it." William Blum CrispyQ May 2018 #27
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True LudwigPastorius May 2018 #28
are we the baddies eShirl May 2018 #30
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What I don't understand is..why don't they seek asylum in Mexico? Honeycombe8 May 2018 #33
I don't see how this has anything to do with the OP. This thread is about lunamagica May 2018 #35
It's a reasonable question. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #40
It may be a reasonable question, but it is not the topic of this thread. The discussion lunamagica May 2018 #41
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Yes Hekate May 2018 #39
K&R hay rick May 2018 #46
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