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203. Deceiving to try and prove a specious "point" is worse than groveling

Sun May 13, 2018, 11:57 PM

May 2018

No one groveled to these repubs - that was just a way to deflect from the fact your "point" was ludicrous from any rational viewpoint. As is the statement about "good guys". As I wrote, few people fall in the category of all good or bad - dump certainly does and many people who support him do whne it comes to bad. Schmidt, Navarro and Wallce are certainly not all bad. Not that it would make a difference but Navarro and Wallace voted for Clinton. But it's easier to dismiss facts that like that and make personal attacks about supposed grovelling. That says a lot.

The fact that some here need to paint the world in broad strokes of all good guys and all bad guys just shows they are doing exactly what is done each night on Faux News. That is really scary for the future of our democracy.

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Stop "fanboying" over republicans [View all] angrychair May 2018 OP

Hear, hear. Iggo May 2018 #1

Highly recommend. Glorfindel May 2018 #2

To each his/her own but I remember very well what these assclowns have been Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #3

Do what I say. Loki Liesmith May 2018 #4

There is always at least one angrychair May 2018 #9

I agree.. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #5

That man you want to be compassionate to angrychair May 2018 #10

I understand you. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #107

I have no problem angrychair May 2018 #110

No question about it. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #112

It is trans-party gaslighting Exotica May 2018 #6

I believe in redemption and forgiveness. IluvPitties May 2018 #7

I'm not saying it's impossible angrychair May 2018 #12

We can't expect McCain to be one of us. IluvPitties May 2018 #15

Ally for what, 90 days max till he is dead? He is hated by pro-Trump Exotica May 2018 #26

We agree to disagree. IluvPitties May 2018 #47

Agree SCantiGOP May 2018 #133

Exactly. nt SylviaD May 2018 #135

Like it or not, this is still a 2 party system... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #8

Sorry, there is no compromise with republicans angrychair May 2018 #17

Funny... that's what they say about us... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #113

People compromise when choosing pizza toppings and dining venues Tarc May 2018 #141

Sorry, but that's nonsense... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #164

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If you're unwilling to compromise on anything... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #174

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No, I AM a Democrat... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #187

No, you DO compromise on everything... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #175

You compromise on civil rights? angrychair May 2018 #179

You compromise on everything.. Dennis Donovan May 2018 #188

Wow...ok angrychair May 2018 #190

Wow is right... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #191

So what compromise on women's rights are mercuryblues May 2018 #202

In think most of us - all of us? - know where the line is drawn when it comes to respecting Mr. Ected May 2018 #11

I agree. I am happy to acknowledge when a Republican shows both common sense and a conscience. Chemisse May 2018 #58

Looks like we're accepting Richard Painter as one of our own. -nt CrispyQ May 2018 #61

Yep, well said. nt stevenleser May 2018 #140

True - just agreeing on one thing treestar May 2018 #146

Unrec. If these Republicans put country over party that is a good thing. emulatorloo May 2018 #13

We need more Republicans to do so, but... JHB May 2018 #111

Please, no purity tests. It is sometimes entirely appropriate to applaud a Republican. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #14

Not a purity test angrychair May 2018 #20

Your OP is not clear where you draw the line. That's how. Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #23

That was how I took the post as well. infidel621 May 2018 #194

Common ground will be what saves this country nini May 2018 #16

Yes. Hard core RepubliCONs wish to polarize the country even more. Polarization is not healthy. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #24

Really? angrychair May 2018 #27

You have conflated Schmidt et al with the trumpistas and their actions Bradshaw3 May 2018 #52

Schmidt gave us Sarah Palin angrychair May 2018 #65

He didn't know what palin was then and Obama defeated that ticket JI7 May 2018 #66

Yes, he did know she was incompetent angrychair May 2018 #68

After she was picked. But they never vetted her. JI7 May 2018 #70

Agreed angrychair May 2018 #85

And doesn't changethe fact he is right about everything he says about Trump JI7 May 2018 #90

I'm not disagreeing with his statements about trump angrychair May 2018 #93

Nobody is rewriting history. Nobody is saying mccain should have beaten Obama JI7 May 2018 #96

I have a problem angrychair May 2018 #100

Trump had said and done far worse than mccain and schmidt JI7 May 2018 #101

With all due respect angrychair May 2018 #105

And Biden and Obama loved and liked Mccain in 2008 also JI7 May 2018 #106

You are completely wrong Bradshaw3 May 2018 #82

In fact it normalizes Trump to say there is no difference. JI7 May 2018 #92

Good point Bradshaw3 May 2018 #95

Sorry, you are wrong about Schmidt angrychair May 2018 #180

Repeating your falsehoods doesn't make them true Bradshaw3 May 2018 #186

You miss the point completely angrychair May 2018 #189

Didn't miss your "point" Bradshaw3 May 2018 #193

Fine angrychair May 2018 #196

Deceiving to try and prove a specious "point" is worse than groveling Bradshaw3 May 2018 #203

His political views doesn't mean he can't be friends w/a Democrat. He IS friends Honeycombe8 May 2018 #157

On this I have to completely disagree angrychair May 2018 #185

Fact: Republicans and Democrats ARE friends. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #195

Respectfully, I disagree angrychair May 2018 #199

You can't disagree with a fact. You can't choose your own facts. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #200

Where did I say to compromise on our issues? nini May 2018 #116

+1. In the old days, Repub & Dem politicians were friends, went to lunch together. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #155

I complement GOPers when they oppose the GOP stance!!! nt USALiberal May 2018 #18

Spelled compliment wrong. Tipperary May 2018 #75

I'll do whatever the damn I hell please. Kirk Lover May 2018 #19

Sen John McCain saves Obamacare votes NO on GOP Health care #SkinnyRepeal DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #21

His last official vote as a senator angrychair May 2018 #28

"He's dying anyway." DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #29

Not what I said angrychair May 2018 #30

I'm too busy battling real monsters like Trump and his current enablers to trash McCain. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #36

Yup, not sure why anyone would have a peoplei problem with attacks on trump JI7 May 2018 #39

I have to choose my battles. Battling John McCain and Steve Schmidt aren't battles worth fighting. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #42

Exactly. And i have no problem battling them during the right occasions JI7 May 2018 #48

I called him McInsane during the 08 elections. That was then. This is now. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #50

Not saying anyone should trash him angrychair May 2018 #53

If McCain was such a bad guy why did Joe Biden visit him in his time of need ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #55

Because of the connection to his son's disease angrychair May 2018 #67

Joe Biden Loved Mccain long before his own son had cancer JI7 May 2018 #69

Maybe so, I can't speak to that angrychair May 2018 #72

Joe Biden had no Problem Defeating the Mccain ticket in 2008 JI7 May 2018 #74

Granted angrychair May 2018 #81

Not really. It was only 10 years ago. And Biden isn't claiming mccain is right on all the issues JI7 May 2018 #89

They've been friends for years. The Clintons are friends w/the Bushes. Reagan & Speaker Tip O'Neill Honeycombe8 May 2018 #156

Because a lot of prominent Dems are way more mature cwydro May 2018 #109

No one I read True Blue American May 2018 #168

He is republican. Nobody is claiming mccain is a liberal JI7 May 2018 #40

Yeah, cutting taxes regardless of its impact is like an inherited defect with those guys. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #45

That was really one for the history books. That's almost never done by any of them. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #153

I'm grateful for that vote. That was a horrible piece of legislation. ooky May 2018 #161

Common Ground-Too Little Too Late relogic May 2018 #22

Not a fanboy Roy Rolling May 2018 #25

Exactly, these things come off as wanting to attack Trump critics JI7 May 2018 #44

We're supposed to "reach out" to Trump supporters and be careful never ever ever to anger them EffieBlack May 2018 #123

At this point, I would settle with adversaries like McCain over nutjobs like that ex-con that was Oneironaut May 2018 #31

McCain voted to repeal the ACA dozens of times angrychair May 2018 #43

Of course. He's a Republican. Doesn't mean you have to hate him. He's a good person. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #154

I can still repect McCain as a human being RandySF May 2018 #32

I don't hate him or wish him ill angrychair May 2018 #51

I do. And no one is going to tell me to hate a person because he's a Republican. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #159

We should encourage anyone (no matter the party) to speak truth to power... cynatnite May 2018 #33

Spot on. zentrum May 2018 #34

I support dividing Republicans and turning them against their own party IronLionZion May 2018 #35

Defending a dying man and agreeing with attacks on trump are not fan boying JI7 May 2018 #37

THIS!!! orangecrush May 2018 #128

It is not black and white hueymahl May 2018 #38

That"s how adults approach politics EffieBlack May 2018 #124

One thing I like about this era is that wasupaloopa May 2018 #41

tell that to the obamas... tomp May 2018 #46

Bush is no longer in office. The Obamas have no problem defeating republicans JI7 May 2018 #60

Ok...now in english. nt tomp May 2018 #150

Great post. I agree! yardwork May 2018 #49

You are missing the point....we need to encourage these same beachbum bob May 2018 #54

Thank you. I thought I was alone in this sentiment. airmid May 2018 #56

If there is such a thing, don't have a big problem with reasonable GOPers who Hoyt May 2018 #57

McCain is not that person angrychair May 2018 #77

A career republican is running as a democrat for Al Franken's seat. CrispyQ May 2018 #59

This is the most salient point in this lengthy thread misanthrope May 2018 #167

I humbly bow to your elegant prose angrychair May 2018 #184

Great Post hueymahl May 2018 #205

So the only people worthy of respect fountainofyouth May 2018 #62

Yes EffieBlack May 2018 #125

You are cherry picking angrychair May 2018 #183

That's right. Applaud the specific action, but BlancheSplanchnik May 2018 #63

Exactly What I Was Going to Post Leith May 2018 #84

While I find BigOleDummy May 2018 #64

Sometimes to defeat a common enemy one must ally with people you might otherwise loathe Jake Stern May 2018 #71

I find myself conflicted Cary May 2018 #73

Wow. Tipperary May 2018 #76

As I've said, lots of people are dying angrychair May 2018 #83

But Nicolle Wallace is so dreamy! dawg May 2018 #78

She has proven to be a decent human being... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #117

I can appreciate a righteous rant without "fanboying." The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #79

I agree angrychair May 2018 #88

Even the most tolerable Republicans are horrific. Trump policies are, for the most part, GOP SOP. Garrett78 May 2018 #80

+1. yonder May 2018 #134

Sorry, but I don't think it's fanboying to expect . . . peggysue2 May 2018 #86

I don't think people are fanboying so much asfeeling slight relief that "not all" of the republicans Afromania May 2018 #87

Could not agree more angrychair May 2018 #91

Being kind is not "fanboying." Showing empathy for a human being suffering a likley painful death EffieBlack May 2018 #94

We are not in disagreement angrychair May 2018 #97

I'm not giving a pass on his record, either EffieBlack May 2018 #99

Up to a certain point I agree angrychair May 2018 #103

You're not talking about "every now and then" EffieBlack May 2018 #119

It makes absolutely no sense to "beat up" MCCain now. It puts us in deplorable company. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #121

Biden went to see him last week. EffieBlack May 2018 #122

Well said! saidsimplesimon May 2018 #98

Just look at Arpaio JI7 May 2018 #102

What? saidsimplesimon May 2018 #108

Thank you, Effie! Dennis Donovan May 2018 #115

+1 treestar May 2018 #145

Thank you, Effie True Blue American May 2018 #169

FFS, you can respect the man and disagree with his views, the two aren't mutually exclusive still_one May 2018 #104

For some, anger is a "go-to" emotion over reason... Dennis Donovan May 2018 #114

You respect people like Schmidt and McCain??? angrychair May 2018 #130

Yeah, I do respect McCain's service to his country, you have a problem with that? I guess you must still_one May 2018 #149

Yes, write this 1000 times mountain grammy May 2018 #118

You know he has chosen President Obama to eulogize him. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #120

All well and good angrychair May 2018 #131

Will you be upset when he passes and President Obama lionizes him in his eulogy ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #132

Won't be thrilled angrychair May 2018 #137

I predict President Obama will say he was a true American hero. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #142

He will also tell funny things,reflect on McCains True Blue American May 2018 #170

And I feel McCain and Schmidt both put this turd ball in motion by bringing Palin onto the ticket meadowlark5 May 2018 #126

I think Reagan put this turd ball in motion. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #166

Yes. Remember they were good with W. JNelson6563 May 2018 #127

Taking Trump down without republican help is impossible orangecrush May 2018 #129

I think purity tests are for lazy thinkers nolabels May 2018 #136

Precisely. VOX May 2018 #139

The shortlist of Never-Trumper-Republicans who publicly tangle with 45 are an invaluable resource. VOX May 2018 #138

Well said. orangecrush May 2018 #143

McCain is normal treestar May 2018 #144

Short memories and shortsighted angrychair May 2018 #178

Wrong. I know people who have switched parties and become great Democrats. Hamlette May 2018 #147

He's okay in my book. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #148

here is a pic his daughter in law just posted JI7 May 2018 #165

I disagree. I think McCain is a fine man who has a different ideology in many areas... Honeycombe8 May 2018 #151

Agreed... big K&R! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #152

""I wanted to let him know how much I love him (John McCain)." DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #158

+1 nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #160

Grammatical error detected... griloco May 2018 #162

Unrec ... obnoxiousdrunk May 2018 #163

Main Street Republicans have become Corporate Republicans bucolic_frolic May 2018 #171

when I read an editorial by his daughter UpInArms May 2018 #172

"Christian" morphed into irrelevant meaning/application. relogic May 2018 #176

The right is as normal as the left in the US. aikoaiko May 2018 #177

All Republicans that voted for Trump and vote for his legislation are complicit Tarc May 2018 #182

Lots of people think that political disagreements are nothing to worry about Lordquinton May 2018 #192

"John McCain is an American hero & one of the bravest fighters I've ever known..." DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #197

I agree that we have to be careful mvd May 2018 #198

Agreed .... LenaBaby61 May 2018 #201

I don't Bettie May 2018 #204

The important thing is that you continue to confuse patience and consideration with fanboying. LanternWaste May 2018 #206

The mistake is your own angrychair May 2018 #207

I see precious little fanboiism over Republicans.. Blue_Tires May 2018 #208

First angrychair May 2018 #209

I never said that nor did I imply it Blue_Tires May 2018 #210