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Hortensis

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17. Definitely a historic marker and huge indicator of change.
Tue May 15, 2018, 04:56 PM
May 2018

When some of the very first representatives of subsaharan kingdoms were brought to Europe in the later 1400s, they were generally treated as emissaries of kings to kings. The betrayals of less powerfully militarized people soon began, of course, as discovery of the Americas quickly after created an enormous greed for labor.

And now we come, not full circle, but yet around.

To some degree this marriage into a European royal family can be seen, not just as change, but as a particularly poetic marker among many of the ending of a particularly nasty period of western history, from the late 1400s to late 1900s. (Not Africa's, unfortunately, since enslavement by other peoples began long before and continues, though tremendously diminished, to this day.)

All European nations had passed laws making slave trade illegal, then slavery itself, before we did in 1808 and then 1862, and the League of Nations made it official for western nations in the 1920s. This tragic era was extended, though, and of course, by its sequelae long past legal slavery itself into our own lifetimes.

And now this royal wedding. When I opened this thread, I had no plan to tune in, but now I think I will. It's really something we could all celebrate.

You are invited: Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 7 a.m. U.S. eastern standard time (12 noon in London)



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Right there with you FiveGoodMen May 2018 #1
Personally, I couldn't care less but Phoenix61 May 2018 #2
I'm half Irish... maveric May 2018 #3
You might be the only one who gives a rats ass. Glamrock May 2018 #4
Join the line malaise May 2018 #5
Strenuously trying to avoid it, but there was thing in the NY Times about... TreasonousBastard May 2018 #6
Other then an occasional post here at DU, I hear nothing of it. Kaleva May 2018 #7
Meh. There's less there than meets the eye. marble falls May 2018 #8
I'm looking forward to it MariaCSR May 2018 #9
Yayyy! EffieBlack May 2018 #13
There is that. Lochloosa May 2018 #16
Definitely a historic marker and huge indicator of change. Hortensis May 2018 #17
Yes! I watched all the "Suits" with Meghan Markle Cha May 2018 #29
And not the first one - do you know about Queen Charlotte? 3catwoman3 May 2018 #36
That is so interesting! mcar May 2018 #42
So it's already some color in the family tree??? cool! MariaCSR May 2018 #52
It's a nice diversion - watching something happy for a change. Vinca May 2018 #10
I'll be up EffieBlack May 2018 #14
I'll be up mcar May 2018 #43
Oh how I wish we were neighbors. I don't think I'll wear a hat but I make great coffee..n/t monmouth4 May 2018 #45
Oh, come on ... You GOTTA wear a HAT! EffieBlack May 2018 #46
recording it. Demsrule86 May 2018 #20
I think it's nice when a young couple is in love and gets married. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #11
I like them and am having a ball with it. EffieBlack May 2018 #12
I said the same thing! Demsrule86 May 2018 #19
One of the reasons I love you EffieBlack May 2018 #23
I love you back! I am excited about this wedding...and I have a hat too! Demsrule86 May 2018 #25
Effie - you might find this interesting. 3catwoman3 May 2018 #38
I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick Codeine May 2018 #15
I love weddings...so I am interested. Demsrule86 May 2018 #18
I'm with you. NCTraveler May 2018 #21
That is exactly what it feels like..LOL n/t monmouth4 May 2018 #47
I don't give a shit either lunatica May 2018 #22
I Don't Know These People Leith May 2018 #24
If I had a rat... I might give a rats ass. - n/t lapfog_1 May 2018 #26
Diversion. guillaumeb May 2018 #27
Sounds like how I feel about things like the Superbowl and World Series Siwsan May 2018 #28
you all should try being in the UK right now.. Soph0571 May 2018 #30
What do you want to bet they do not know about... 3catwoman3 May 2018 #37
The only live TV I watch is sports, where there's a definite absence of royal wedding coverage. Iggo May 2018 #31
Sorry, I love the royal weddings. elfin May 2018 #32
Couldn't care less . nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #33
I only care heaven05 May 2018 #34
No her dad staging pics for the paparazzi is why he's not going maryellen99 May 2018 #39
I'm not worried about her at all EffieBlack May 2018 #48
I do hope heaven05 May 2018 #50
She can handle it better treestar May 2018 #59
Yeah, okay heaven05 May 2018 #60
I was wondering what would become of her acting career treestar May 2018 #61
OMG! ROYALS' WEDDING ARE MY LIFE! trof May 2018 #35
I can't wait kimbutgar May 2018 #40
I'll be watching mcar May 2018 #41
Why do you even care that much? BlueTsunami2018 May 2018 #44
Couldn't possibly care any less. Frankly sick of seeing anything about it SammyWinstonJack May 2018 #49
It'll be a nice diversion, and I'll likely be up anyway. Rorey May 2018 #51
I would trade Ohiogal May 2018 #53
lol.. right there as well.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #54
Sorry, but I love Prince Harry Butterflylady May 2018 #55
I'm looking forward to watching it..... CatMor May 2018 #56
I tried... uriel1972 May 2018 #57
I like it all; I guess it's a guilty pleasure treestar May 2018 #58
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