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RockRaven

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14. This sort of argument ignores

Reply to Fozzledick (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 10:11 PM

May 2018

the agency of
a) nonviolent Palestinian protestors
b) marginally-dangerous violent Palestinian protestors (i.e. rock-throwers)
c) Israeli soldiers
d) Israeli commanders

They are all autonomous individuals who made decisions which factored massively into the loss of life seen this week.

And it ignores the actions (and the goals of said actions) of Israeli and American politicians this past week, never mind these past decades.

It is both paternalistic, infantilizing BS and biased propagandizing to cite Hamas terrorists/PA as the primary culprit. There is far, far too much culpability here and too many parties involved for any one to be "chiefly to blame."

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Hamas' catastrophe: Terrorists are chiefly to blame for the tragic loss of life in Gaza [View all] Fozzledick May 2018 OP

The Daily News Story Offers the Israeli/Trump POV Ccarmona May 2018 #1

That's funny, the Daily News has been outspoken in their condemnation of Trump lately Fozzledick May 2018 #2

PS. You Quoted an Opinion Piece From the NYDN' Editorial Page Ccarmona May 2018 #5

I doubt Jerry Garcia would agree with you. panader0 May 2018 #3

Again, the NYDN??? Nah. marble falls May 2018 #4

Women throwing stones from hundreds of feet away. Damn terrorists Roland99 May 2018 #6

Can't agree with this. NCTraveler May 2018 #7

I have to disagree with you. Fozzledick May 2018 #10

Those qualify just as this one does. NCTraveler May 2018 #24

If you point a gun at somebody and pull the trigger, mythology May 2018 #18

Can you spot them by their uniforms? superpatriotman May 2018 #8

I think the swastikas are an obvious giveaway. Fozzledick May 2018 #9

Oh-that would be the "Kite O Death"... flotsam May 2018 #30

Both sides absolutely do not want peace. Oneironaut May 2018 #11

But only one side actually gets killed in large numbers. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #31

They knew that going into it Madam Mossfern May 2018 #32

Martyrdom is a powerful weapon, garnering sympathy it may not entire deserve. Orsino May 2018 #34

I have this really odd idea... Archae May 2018 #12

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #15

Don't post opinion pieces as facts. doxyluv13 May 2018 #13

That's like, just your opinion, man. Fozzledick May 2018 #16

This sort of argument ignores RockRaven May 2018 #14

Yeah, right, that's like blaming Hitler for the Holocaust. Fozzledick May 2018 #17

That's a spurious argument for several reasons RockRaven May 2018 #21

Damn, that's some serious weapons-grade pretzel logic you've got there. Fozzledick May 2018 #22

Another fallacy RockRaven May 2018 #23

the trigger puller is responsible for deaths that result nt msongs May 2018 #19

No, the instigator of the assault is responsible - textbook felony murder. Fozzledick May 2018 #20

Maybe next time they can use flame throwers, better kill rate I bet Cicada May 2018 #27

And who is the instigator in this??? Docreed2003 May 2018 #28

Water cannons? Non lethal Alternatives? Cicada May 2018 #25

I agree. EX500rider May 2018 #26

This is akin to placing the blame for My Lai John Fante May 2018 #29

If the viet cong had mobilized the villagers to attack a fortified US military base hack89 May 2018 #33