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PatSeg

(53,042 posts)
59. Yes
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:04 AM
May 2018

I can look back at times in my life when I was barely aware of what was going on in the world, as I was living day-to-day just trying to raise children on my own, often barely surviving. The world of politics, current events, and government seemed so removed from my small life. There were times when I didn't even have a television or access to a newspaper.

"What does that say about the rest of us?" is actually a very board question and I include my own periods of apathy in there. What concerns me the most are the people who watch Fox News, listen to right-wing radio, and read tabloids to stay "informed". I've known people like that throughout my life (before Fox News), but they had no interest in politics and didn't vote. Many of them were pretty decent people and often good neighbors, before people like Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh started to play on their fears and insecurities, encouraging their hatreds, not always a hard thing to do.

Then there were the Evangelicals and Born Agains I've known. Once again, though they could be exhausting in their zeal and desire to save the world, they were often good people. They weren't interested in politics, that was much too worldly for them. Politicians hadn't yet reached out to them, fostering distrust and fear in order to garner more votes, making promises they'd never keep in the process.

So as I look back at the different decades, the people I've known, and the changes I've witnessed, I can see a perfect storm building. I'm really not sure what any of us could have done to change it. In hindsight, there are things I may have done differently, but others probably not. Who can say? I suppose I really became hyper alert after the 2000 presidential election and 9/11. Not only was I more motivated, I had more time, the Internet, and cable news.

I am retired now and I have time to ask questions, make observations, and seek answers.

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K&R, I only give a damn about shit that will get Benedict Donald impeached and KGOP out of power uponit7771 May 2018 #1
Not me. In addition, I want him jailed. Marie Marie May 2018 #4
I just want to see him totally humiliated in public world wide wally May 2018 #13
All of the above please. shanny May 2018 #28
I want all of his assets seized and auctioned, criminals barred from bidding. nt NCjack May 2018 #41
I guess that "hung drawn and quartered" is off the table. pennylane100 May 2018 #47
He's already broke tazkcmo May 2018 #53
Yes I'm sure he's lying about his wealth. He always has. shanny May 2018 #56
As long as it's tazkcmo May 2018 #58
I hear you. shanny May 2018 #60
I want that whole fucking party jailed! They are all in on it! Initech May 2018 #49
It was after he got elected. RDANGELO May 2018 #2
I'm not trying to pick a fight, but is a President Elect protected by Executive Privalige? thewhollytoast May 2018 #29
Treason enid602 May 2018 #43
No. No protection under Exec Privilege during the Transition RandomAccess May 2018 #46
Not in nyt or wapo front page-yet. lindysalsagal May 2018 #3
K&R 2naSalit May 2018 #5
(AND this news is too important to use code language like K&R - please use publicly accessible terms DemocracyMouse May 2018 #16
. SixString May 2018 #18
K&R we can do it May 2018 #36
Yeah and if we think he's like a cornered rat now just wait PearliePoo2 May 2018 #6
K&R Solly Mack May 2018 #7
I knew the Rosneft deal was a prime mover in this conspiracy long ago. panader0 May 2018 #8
I can't tell you how many times I've Control-Z May 2018 #32
I bookmarked the thread yesterday. BigmanPigman May 2018 #9
RNC betrayed America Achilleaze May 2018 #33
K&R... spanone May 2018 #10
Where are repubs on this kind of corruption? Miigwech May 2018 #11
barely communist any more... pangaia May 2018 #15
True Miigwech May 2018 #17
But I sure get your point... pangaia May 2018 #19
Coolio Miigwech May 2018 #21
I think in their terms, it's business as usual. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #25
Standing there with their hands out waiting for a "taste." NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #40
I posted the unrolled thread earlier today RandomAccess May 2018 #12
Thnx lunasun May 2018 #30
This is amazing. Mueller is tying it all together. LuckyLib May 2018 #45
K&R for much-needed exposure meow2u3 May 2018 #14
Deeper dive. moondust May 2018 #20
Wow - Wray & Rosneft - KGOP totally corrupt Achilleaze May 2018 #34
The world will not be right until this bastard is in jail Pepsidog May 2018 #22
This site...group....community....whatever you'd like to call it... BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #23
Well-spoken. I think DU'ers (along with many decent folks around the world) have to partition flibbitygiblets May 2018 #26
What the............... PatSeg May 2018 #24
+100 n/t MBS May 2018 #35
What does that say about the rest of us? thewhollytoast May 2018 #57
Yes PatSeg May 2018 #59
Thinks Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #27
There is no reason for him to do it, but Avenatti should run against Spanky. Hassler May 2018 #31
Tip of the iceberg. He cut similar deals with Russia and China and god knows who else. Nitram May 2018 #37
But Wait! Firestorm49 May 2018 #38
I feel for poor Mr Mueller... malthaussen May 2018 #39
K & R SunSeeker May 2018 #42
Commission enid602 May 2018 #44
$282 million Ginger42 May 2018 #51
K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #48
In addition to convicted, he should be immediately keel hauled in the middle of the North Atlantic. Texin May 2018 #50
I've been waiting tazkcmo May 2018 #52
Coincidence. Trump never met him. Even if they were photographed together. Amaryllis May 2018 #54
Rachel on Rumaihi and Qatar and a lawsuit about Bannon and mentioning Flynn lindysalsagal May 2018 #55
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