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Hortensis

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6. Hamas is a CONSERVATIVE fundamentalist organization.

Wed May 16, 2018, 10:28 AM

May 2018

Strong social and/or religious conservatives are the world's big troublemakers. Of course, Hamas didn't follow the dove.

And all those poor, decent people in Gaza, who just like us want to live safe, normal lives unruled by malice, are caught between the hard-core conservatives currently in control of both Gaza/Hamas and the Israeli government. (Also currently the U.S. and most ME governments.)

The people of Gaza are also running out of water and electricity. Warfare aside, Gaza's becoming increasingly unlivable and they can't get out.

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Hamas could have chosen peace. Instead, it made Gaza suffer. [View all] Fozzledick May 2018 OP

Israel could have not slaughtered 50 unarmed protesters. Squinch May 2018 #1

Point of clarification. B2G May 2018 #2

Don't confuse him with the facts! Fozzledick May 2018 #5

Stop the bs blaming of dead victims and blame trump for moving... brush May 2018 #57

yes, sticks and stones MythosMaster May 2018 #33

And molotov cocktails, and explosive kites and B2G May 2018 #34

Did they fire first? Blue_Tires May 2018 #59

Oh, well then, the slaughter must have been justified, yeah? procon May 2018 #40

What would have happened if they had breached the fence? B2G May 2018 #41

Is there a distinction only in the numbers of civilians that Israeli soldiers procon May 2018 #44

Bibi is playing the same cards MythosMaster May 2018 #51

The children were armed, too? Blue_Tires May 2018 #60

True. Snackshack May 2018 #54

About time for some of this content to start appearing in the proper forum BannonsLiver May 2018 #3

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one May 2018 #29

Abso-fucking-lutely...nt SidDithers May 2018 #35

Maybe they learned something from the native Americans, Aborigines malaise May 2018 #4

The withdrawal from Gaza was stealing land? Really? Fozzledick May 2018 #7

They have the Palestinians MFM008 May 2018 #30

Interestingly, this article was written in 2014 wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #38

Well said. OnDoutside May 2018 #18

Help Malaise, POC want equal rights and we simply can't allow that to happen! ProudLib72 May 2018 #55

Basic human rights let alone civil, economic or social rights malaise May 2018 #56

Hamas is a CONSERVATIVE fundamentalist organization. Hortensis May 2018 #6

It seems to be it is always the Palestinians fault treestar May 2018 #8

Well said malaise May 2018 #9

What Israel wants is for the Palestinians to stop murdering them. Fozzledick May 2018 #10

This article is from 2014, by the way oberliner May 2018 #13

I saw it on the front page of today's Washington Post. Fozzledick May 2018 #15

I'm glad you posted it oberliner May 2018 #16

They also want the land that the Palestinians are living on or farming. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #17

The Palestinians want the Israelis to stop murdering them treestar May 2018 #19

I'd guess the Palestinians want the same from the Israelis.. whathehell May 2018 #27

You can choose to believe Israel wanted peace mythology May 2018 #37

They could have taken the state leftynyc May 2018 #11

Again, they could have cooperated fully or treestar May 2018 #20

Plenty of Jews were already there leftynyc May 2018 #25

Remember it was said that "Palestinians never miss an opportunity COLGATE4 May 2018 #53

Author is: Bill Clinton's Middle East peace negotiator and special assistant to President Obama oberliner May 2018 #12

So that means we agree with the author 100%? treestar May 2018 #21

Of course not oberliner May 2018 #23

Hamas' fault. B2G May 2018 #14

Don't know how it is proven, but that makes it OK treestar May 2018 #22

Hamas announced it oberliner May 2018 #24

That makes them fair game to shoot? HopeAgain May 2018 #26

Good question whathehell May 2018 #28

No oberliner May 2018 #32

No, it is not ALWAYS the Palestinians fault. MicaelS May 2018 #47

Hamas secretly infiltrated IDF and forced them to murder civilians. Wow. DanTex May 2018 #31

Hamas members are not civilians. nt hack89 May 2018 #36

Some of them are, of course. Just like some Likud members are civilians. DanTex May 2018 #43

Israel could have chosen two states and not enforced malaise May 2018 #39

One side does practice apartheid...but not the one you think. EX500rider May 2018 #58

OK, so imagine for a moment, Bettie May 2018 #61

More likely anyone Jewish would be killed in a day or two in Gaza EX500rider May 2018 #62

Right because in your mind Bettie May 2018 #63

Are their any Jewish people who can safely travel around Gaza? EX500rider May 2018 #64

Why would anyone be a tourist in a prison? Bettie May 2018 #66

How is it a prison when they share a border with Eygpt that Israel does not control? EX500rider May 2018 #67

Hey Fozzledick--try googling 'Map of shrinking Palestine' panader0 May 2018 #42

If you want them to "defy the oppressors" then start with COLGATE4 May 2018 #45

You mean THIS notorious fraud? Fozzledick May 2018 #46

Kinda weird that the land used to be called Palestine. panader0 May 2018 #49

It's a Latinization of "Land of the Philistines", Philistines being Hebrew for "foreign invaders". Fozzledick May 2018 #50

Doesn't Gaza share a border with Eygpt? That the Israeli's have no say over? EX500rider May 2018 #48

Oh, I'm sure that this couldn't be the case. COLGATE4 May 2018 #52

Just for contrast, here's a historically accurate map for comparison. Fozzledick May 2018 #65