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Demsrule86

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160. We waited over a 100 years for health care...lets secure the ACA and improve it by adding a public

Sat May 19, 2018, 09:30 AM

May 2018

option. It isn't about fringe or non-fringe...it is about what is possible. I consider it something of a miracle that we got the ACA in the first place (thanks Nancy Pelosi) and that thus far we have saved it ...the ACA should be the issue to run on in 18.

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The revolution is real, but it's unclear whether Sanders will lead it [View all] DonViejo May 2018 OP

There's a big ol' opportunity for Dems. Orsino May 2018 #1

2015 response to Elizabeth Warren revealed much Hortensis May 2018 #62

... ehrnst May 2018 #73

You're right, of course. The virulent enmity of Wall Street Hortensis May 2018 #83

I'm glad the party is finally moving back to the left... Wounded Bear May 2018 #2

Riiiight, after leading Democrats on all these issues... sure thing! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #3

Thanks for sharing, but I don't do 2020 speculation yet... Wounded Bear May 2018 #4

Definitely. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #10

Leading? BannonsLiver May 2018 #5

Using... R B Garr May 2018 #7

Following George II May 2018 #46

Yep, following. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #11

Yes, leading with a vengeance... the results speak for themselves. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #13

After This, Therefor Because of This. LanternWaste May 2018 #42

Before, during, and after... Bernie 24/7/365!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #55

That went right over your interlocutor's head. nt stevenleser May 2018 #149

Can you name a few? George II May 2018 #61

For example, from the first three lines of the article... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #84

That's not to say that the article is correct in saying that.... George II May 2018 #89

Oh okay... you might want to take that up with the Washington Post. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #92

The Wash Post didn't say he was "leading with a vengeance....the results speak for themselves"... George II May 2018 #102

That'd be a big NO....just saying! Nt Docreed2003 May 2018 #101

Can you be specific about the "results" you are referring to? ehrnst May 2018 #70

For example, from the first three lines of the article... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #85

You mean results like Sanders embraced the policies of HRC in the form of his ehrnst May 2018 #108

I dont think explaining the truth about where the ideas come from will work. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #126

I think more than anything, it is continually repeating fact, out loud. sunRISEnow May 2018 #130

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #147

Exactly.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #112

That's okay, they're the ones who deserve push back. By their ridiculous logic... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #116

Pretzel logic is just disillusioned73 May 2018 #117

You got that right! That's just the typical Bernie bashing schtick to which we've become accustomed. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #120

That was an awesome post. KPN May 2018 #142

This post is akin to God sending a bird down to land on Bernie's podium as a message from him. sunRISEnow May 2018 #119

Yes it is sad. The only credit he gets from some here KPN May 2018 #141

Yes, your points are well taken... we just have to keep reminding ourselves of that. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #155

Bernie will turn 79 before the 2020 election. lapfog_1 May 2018 #6

Why the ageism?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #12

I think 79 is too old myself. Demsrule86 May 2018 #24

If someome who's older is showin signs of slowing down, like some candidates have in the past... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #29

I agree InAbLuEsTaTe, Uncle Joe May 2018 #32

Yup, it's not like you see Bernie stumbling around like an old man. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #35

I have seen older members of my family very alert one day and in the the throes of dementia Demsrule86 May 2018 #161

Having now reached "late middle age" or "early old age" myself lapfog_1 May 2018 #44

We have lower age limits on candidates for POTUS.. honest.abe May 2018 #99

Not ageism - science ehrnst May 2018 #109

You folks keep saying things like that, but when asked can't be specific. Why? George II May 2018 #74

Huh? The first three lines from the article are but a few exemples... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #88

That sentence is not necessarily true. Many have embraced those policies long before Sanders.... George II May 2018 #91

Tell that to the Washington Post...news to me that someone can't be a leader on an issue if others InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #95

So you think he's "leading" on a policy that had already been introduced and discussed? So.... George II May 2018 #98

Its not uncommon for good ideas to come KPN May 2018 #156

You stated that "results" were that others "embraced" their policies. ehrnst May 2018 #110

Which revolution? ucrdem May 2018 #8

He has a solid role to play in the conversation wonkwest May 2018 #9

How dare you say anything positive about Bernie?! /sarcasm InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #14

The pretense of oppression is fetching. LanternWaste May 2018 #43

Riiight InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #53

Posting something twice doesn't make it true or interesting. QC May 2018 #56

That doesn't matter. In order to get Medicare for all ...you need a 60 majority...we Demsrule86 May 2018 #27

There's nothing wrong with articulating our goals wonkwest May 2018 #41

I say we push for something that can actually happen...overpromising is a problem. Demsrule86 May 2018 #159

Sanders supported a "public option" as part of Obamacare. Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #45

We waited over a 100 years for health care...lets secure the ACA and improve it by adding a public Demsrule86 May 2018 #160

Good post wonkwest Uncle Joe May 2018 #34

When any Dems get too comfortable with big-ass donors... Orsino May 2018 #107

Well said. With you 1000% on all of that. KPN May 2018 #157

there needs to be a real democrat running for sander's senate seat nt msongs May 2018 #15

That would be ironic. Run another party that will pull votes and Bernie likely losing his seat. sunRISEnow May 2018 #16

Yeah.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #114

Good luck with that... tonedevil May 2018 #17

1991 the Democratic Party and Bernie agreed the Democratic Party would not run a viable candidate sunRISEnow May 2018 #18

Then I'm sure... tonedevil May 2018 #19

I am correct about the agreement the Democratic Party and Bernie came to in 1991. sunRISEnow May 2018 #20

Great... tonedevil May 2018 #21

Fine. So? sunRISEnow May 2018 #22

You seem to think... tonedevil May 2018 #23

I think the senate run would be affected if an effort was put forth to run against Bernie. Yes. sunRISEnow May 2018 #25

You may well be correct... tonedevil May 2018 #28

Anger? Would this be gas-lighting? sunRISEnow May 2018 #30

How so? /nt tonedevil May 2018 #33

I'm still wondering why the hell Bernie thought he had to malign R B Garr May 2018 #26

So what indeed... tonedevil May 2018 #31

He doesn't get to hold Democrats hostage and attack them just R B Garr May 2018 #38

OK tonedevil May 2018 #40

In 2012: George II May 2018 #47

To be fair, the California Democratic Party didn't endorse her either wonkwest May 2018 #57

No. Bernie is her peer. How totally arrogant and out of touch R B Garr May 2018 #97

I see where you're coming from wonkwest May 2018 #100

Spare me. Sorry, but this is just more dressed up double-speak R B Garr May 2018 #104

I think your animosity precludes further discussion wonkwest May 2018 #105

LOL, this works both ways. It is obvious the pattern R B Garr May 2018 #106

I'm in California too and I'm voting for Feinstein. Years ago, I met Senator Feinstein underthematrix May 2018 #128

Nah, it would be a waste of money and resources. Ace Rothstein May 2018 #36

and wouldn't we be so much better off....good god. Its really too bad all of our democratic JCanete May 2018 #49

They already were. Now, a small faction is taking ownership of it. sunRISEnow May 2018 #52

Yep. Hillary's platform seems to have been forgotten. Or willfully ignored. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #69

I could point to plenty of obvious examples that have all arisen post 2016 of JCanete May 2018 #94

I have perused the thread and see plenty have supplied facts for you. sunRISEnow May 2018 #118

It's always that way. nt R B Garr May 2018 #133

lol.. go for it disillusioned73 May 2018 #113

"His ideas " ismnotwasm May 2018 #37

... George II May 2018 #48

He was at the forefront of pushing for them when it was deemed politically dangerous for others to JCanete May 2018 #50

Wrong. Universal healthcare and low tuition college have been around since the sixties. Blue_true May 2018 #76

and where has it been for the last 15 years. JCanete May 2018 #82

People have been working to get it. Blue_true May 2018 #86

You can't simply work to get these things behind the scenes. When you do that, then somebody JCanete May 2018 #93

No you are giving him all the credit. sheshe2 May 2018 #77

There is no answer for your post. Blue_true May 2018 #87

Thanks, Blue_true. sheshe2 May 2018 #154

why would you put no child left behind on there? That was pretty unfortunate. JCanete May 2018 #90

The way Kennedy wanted it structured, yes. Blue_true May 2018 #96

That claim almost made me throw up also. Blue_true May 2018 #71

I Most Certainly Hope HE DOES NOT luc mont May 2018 #39

Agree! Bernie has great ideas, little or no ability to deliver on them Thekaspervote May 2018 #51

Has anybody seen Wwcd around lately? n/t QC May 2018 #54

Yes. Why do you ask? George II May 2018 #58

A swing and a miss. sheshe2 May 2018 #81

How nice of you to ask mcar May 2018 #59

I talk to her everyday. sheshe2 May 2018 #60

I heard somewhere that she went out for a couple of drinks with KTM the other night. George II May 2018 #67

dayum. sheshe2 May 2018 #78

Is this intended as a threat to a new poster? The Polack MSgt May 2018 #63

Boom! sheshe2 May 2018 #65

+1000 (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #66

Some people, eh? George II May 2018 #72

Oh wait I understand now why you directed your response to a new poster. sheshe2 May 2018 #64

Yes, why? Cha May 2018 #79

Actually Me. May 2018 #103

😎 Wwcd May 2018 #121

Welcome Home Wwcd! The Polack MSgt May 2018 #124

Well, hello to you too Polack MSgt ! Wwcd May 2018 #127

Hey! sheshe2 May 2018 #150

The GOOD people cant be kept down forever! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #125

Yes Eliot, the good "Persist" Wwcd May 2018 #129

Awesome!! R B Garr May 2018 #132

Hey RB! 🥂 Wwcd May 2018 #134

Beautiful plans, great pic, Wwcd! R B Garr May 2018 #158

Hello! ehrnst May 2018 #139

☺🥂 Wwcd May 2018 #143

Hi Gothmog May 2018 #140

Hello to you too 🥂 Wwcd May 2018 #144

Good to see you here, Wwcd! NastyRiffraff May 2018 #146

IKR! Ya know NR, its always nice to be so well thought of. Wwcd May 2018 #148

Stand by... NurseJackie May 2018 #122

Yer doin' it wrong...nt SidDithers May 2018 #123

Yeah JustAnotherGen May 2018 #131

Well, see there you go! NastyRiffraff May 2018 #145

He's feeling the beefaroni ucrdem May 2018 #162

Hooray! NastyRiffraff May 2018 #163

Yes. lapucelle May 2018 #164

Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie May 2018 #75

Welcome to DU, luc. sheshe2 May 2018 #80

Chill and welcome. :) DEMOCRATS lead the "revolution," Hortensis May 2018 #115

K & R your post. Wwcd May 2018 #135

Oh, hi there. :) Hortensis May 2018 #136

☺🍃 Wwcd May 2018 #137

So, there has been an affect.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #111

Why would Sanders lead it? Blue_Tires May 2018 #138

It's clear that Sanders is not a Democrat. PubliusEnigma May 2018 #151

This has never been and never will be "free" college DFW May 2018 #152

HRC won. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #153