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ehrnst

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45. Why are you posting these suggestions here? Wouldn't writing the reps be more effective?
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:27 PM
May 2018

Last edited Mon May 21, 2018, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

But I can tell you what I do see coming from the leadership.

Gather together Democratic lawmakers.
- that's happening. It's called "being in session," and "The Democratic Caucus"

Hold a weekly or twice-weekly press event.
They send out more frequent press releases, with are more effective at responding to events quickly. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom

Provide a summary of Trump's lies and the damage he has done since the last briefing.
Newspapers are doing that, and they have more time and resources to devote to following DT's every word than our reps and staff do right now: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/nyt-lists-every-lie-trump-has-told-as-president-976365123815
https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a20111768/donald-trump-has-managed-to-tell-3001-lies-as-president-here-are-five-of-his-best/
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/19/17027906/trump-russia-social-media-indictment-lies


Bring on large groups who are affected by Trump's actions, example people who have lost healthcare or dreamers and their families. Trash his Tweets.
"Bring on large groups" to a biweekly press conference? How do you manage that - financially, logistically? You need to vet people before bringing them to a press conference, so you know they aren't trolls. Again, media and advocacy orgs bring these stories to a much larger audience more efficiently and in long form journalism - and in a way that separates it from partisan politics - which is exactly what a press conference hosted by Democrats will be dismissed as.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-04-03/what-it-s-like-living-without-health-insurance-in-america

https://www.dreamerstories.com/

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-daca-dreamer-story-20170909-story.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/02/AR2010080203882.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-dreamer-traveled-to-mexico-now-he-cant-get-home-to-his-husband/2018/04/09/3445c736-3c35-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.84901d10da9d


Throw down challenges to Trump - questions about his lies that he will be unable to answer.
They are throwing down challenges to DT daily. What you want is public statements. DT will answer them with more lies - and give more ammunition to his followers that DT is being persecuted by partisan politics. NON PARTISAN sources of fact checking are much more credible to the public. If you repeat lies - even in fact checking - they gain MORE traction, because repetition makes the mind believe that it came from more than one source. Democrats are coming out with facts about the harm that his policies are doing.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/22/trump-nominees-democrats-block-314775

And I believe these count as a challenges:

https://www.axios.com/schumer-pelosi-say-trump-agreed-to-replace-daca-without-wall-1513305491-a9965fa0-2c67-4710-8ea1-a9d581cfb11d.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nancy-pelosi-rips-trumps-hateful-transgender-troop-ban

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/chuck-schumer-trumps-foreign-policy-by-tweet-doing-serious-damage-to-us

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/377156-schumer-trump-must-back-down-from-sweeping-tariffs

About repeating lies:
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/dont-believe-lies-just-people-repeat/

Maintain continuous themes with examples - for example - Trump is corrupt. He's a liar. He is damaging America. He is callous.
Again, if you want Democratic leaders to call DT names, it is "partisan politics" If non-partisan sources and orgs say this, it's much more credible.

But yes, Democrats call out his policies as harmful:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/politics/democrats-health-care-fight-2018/index.html

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/370816-democrats-pan-trumps-immigration-framework

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-travel-ban-helps-isis-stage-attacks-us-democrats-say-715512


However, if you want examples of calling him out, Maxine Waters, John Lewis are notable examples:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/11/maxine_waters_trump_is_typical_con_man_who_diverts_attention_from_himself_by_attacking_others.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-shithole-countries-latest-john-lewis-says-president-is-racist-a8159241.html

Lay out the Democratic alternative.
Again - you want public statements? "Alternatives" to what? His policies? If there is nothing that can be done about them at this time, then that would simply be spitting into the wind. At best. If a social justice issue is identified with Democratic Leadership, then it's much easier to say that it's simply partisan, and DT is a master at using "persecution by Democrats" as a distraction: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/government-shutdown-democrats-daca-immigration-policy-could-harm-them/

And yes, Democrats do provide alternatives: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-travel-ban-bill-block-muslim-countries-restrictions-democrats-law-latest-a8061346.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/353977-house-rejects-democratic-budget-alternatives

https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-eye-to-midterms-democrats-offer-alternative-tax-infrastructure-plan-1520445576

Make the events controversial, big productions to attract maximum media exposure.
Not good. It's usually obvious when someone is creating controversy to attract attention. You lose credibility.

Try to get the media to talk about things that need to be talked about - too much is overlooked, and most people are unaware of how bad Trump is.
See below for examples of media talking about how much he lies, and how harmful his policies are. Most people don't approve of Trump. Op-eds are far more convicing than "controversial events to attract media attention."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/will-donald-trump-destroy-the-presidency/537921/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/25/trumps-travel-ban-might-be-legal-but-its-bad-policy/

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/13/577808792/president-trumps-idea-of-good-and-bad-immigrant-countries-has-a-historical-prece

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/08/trumps-new-tariff-exemptions-are-a-bad-idea-according-to-his-own-trade-adviser-four-days-ago/?


Everyone is frustrated. Taking yours out on "Democrats" is not only off target, it's destructive.
The media is too busy covering all of Trump's insane rants. guillaumeb May 2018 #1
They give Stormy Daniel's lawyer more air time than any Democratic lawmaker. There is something Doodley May 2018 #2
Avenatti is beating Trump at Trump's own game. guillaumeb May 2018 #5
They could at least try this suggestion. BSdetect May 2018 #3
Great idea. Squinch May 2018 #4
Why indeed? Great idea! Sophia4 May 2018 #6
Very true. Doodley May 2018 #66
I wish they would too, but I think a lot who are BigmanPigman May 2018 #7
They don't need to talk about impeachment leftynyc May 2018 #63
Most people haven't heard of those things or they don't care. BigmanPigman May 2018 #65
Doesn't seem to be our MO. Ever. vi5 May 2018 #8
I agree. It is hard to see any discernible, coherent, coordinated strategy. Doodley May 2018 #67
I think Nancy Pelosi does that left-of-center2012 May 2018 #9
They have a weekly address, and put out press releases more often. ehrnst May 2018 #47
And who is even aware of that out of the entire electorate? Doodley May 2018 #68
I think they should be screaming their heads off tavernier May 2018 #10
Hmmm sheshe2 May 2018 #39
I would prefer a blue wave. I would prefer Trump not to get away with his lies. He has got away with Doodley May 2018 #69
The thing about constant screaming is that people tune you out. ehrnst May 2018 #48
I'm torn on this ehrnst JustAnotherGen May 2018 #53
The thing is, anything Dems say is going to be, by definition, partisan ehrnst May 2018 #57
I've heard no screaming yet tavernier May 2018 #55
I've heard some raised voices.... ehrnst May 2018 #58
What Democrats are screaming? Doodley May 2018 #70
The OP seems to think that they should be, on a weekly basis. ehrnst May 2018 #71
Sigh mcar May 2018 #11
Yep. I don't recall the media covering this vote that was taken ooky May 2018 #12
Actually they did. H.J.Res.2 - Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the US" ehrnst May 2018 #49
Sorry I should have specified tv media in my comment. ooky May 2018 #60
I think the suggestion is to MAKE it newsworthy -- RandomAccess May 2018 #14
I think you're right. C-SPAN isn't the best "social media" platform. n/t Beartracks May 2018 #15
How do you know it's "hohum?" mcar May 2018 #17
Seems self-evident to me -- RandomAccess May 2018 #29
Sure, cause we know the media covers all news equally mcar May 2018 #31
You make my point for me RandomAccess May 2018 #34
So, are you saying that Dems should pander for attention and controversy? ehrnst May 2018 #50
I'm saying they should do what the need to do in order to get RandomAccess May 2018 #52
For some, there will never be "enough." For others ehrnst May 2018 #56
Oh, good for you. You found some headlines. RandomAccess May 2018 #59
AND broadcast news coverage. ehrnst May 2018 #61
No, you didn't make his point.. Cha May 2018 #38
And then complain that Dems have no message mcar May 2018 #43
+1000 (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #51
The M$M has an agenda.. they were a big part Cha May 2018 #37
Not only social media, but I've recently seen Democrats on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC... George II May 2018 #21
This is true mcar May 2018 #22
At the same time you have people accusing Democrats of only going after Trump JI7 May 2018 #24
A bit of a mixed message, no? mcar May 2018 #25
If the media doesn't cover it, it means they're ineffective. Stinky The Clown May 2018 #64
They (Democratic leadership) do usually hold weekly press conferences BumRushDaShow May 2018 #13
I like your mrssage, esprcially the part about buying some media outlets and controlling the c-rational May 2018 #33
Why must we think about what to do about a traitor? BlueJac May 2018 #16
When they do the so called news networks ignore them elmac May 2018 #18
Excellent idea volstork May 2018 #19
No, Democrats are NOT having trouble getting the message out about how bad Trump is. George II May 2018 #20
Good Question... BadGimp May 2018 #23
Democrats don't spew the crazy so no ratings, hence, no coverage. kairos12 May 2018 #26
When Democrats held power, there was a plethora of Republicans on TV attacking Democrats dalton99a May 2018 #27
This is simply not true mcar May 2018 #44
We should have designated Avenattis. Squinch May 2018 #28
Yes! KT2000 May 2018 #30
We're losing perspective here. Even a bad president (like GWB) John Fante May 2018 #32
They're weak on messaging Thrill May 2018 #35
The democrats should not necessarily continue talking about trump screwups lancelyons May 2018 #36
It would be such a simple thing to do, too. Garrett78 May 2018 #40
I would agree, his tweets should be challenged... kentuck May 2018 #41
The more a lie is repeated, the more credible it becomes. ehrnst May 2018 #46
Yes Achilleaze May 2018 #42
Why are you posting these suggestions here? Wouldn't writing the reps be more effective? ehrnst May 2018 #45
Wow, what a well-deserved response! mcar May 2018 #54
Here's a news conference: ehrnst May 2018 #62
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